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Posted by Lira on Oct-19-2007 00:58:

Children and Death

This is something that puzzled me last week.

My girlfriend's little niece is a very smart 2 year old girl (although I'm coming to the conclusion that 2 year old kids tend to be smart anyway), and both of them were walking along the road. Her niece then asked my girlfriend to pick her up, rather desperately. My girlfriend then asked her:

"What's wrong, are you afraid?"
"Amanda is afraid!"*
"Why?"
"Cars knock Amanda down! Amanda (is) afraid (of) Vroom vrooms!"
"Oh, come here, darling, don't worry, they're not gonna hit you: see, we're not on their way"
"AMANDA GONNA DIE!!!!"

Now, that's when my girlfriend looked at her kinda shocked, because she didn't really expect such a young child to know about death, let alone be afraid of it. I always thought that fear of death involved an understanding of the world a lot more elaborate than that of a small kid, but I was apparently wrong.

Does anyone know more about how kids cope with these existential dilemmas? I don't know if she's aware of the fact that she's eventually going to die one day, but is this a common fear among kids? I don't remember being afraid of death when I was that young. Well, I don't remember much of my life back then anyway, but... yeah, I'd like to know the opinion and experiences of those who happen to know children better than I do.



* Apparently, she has not yet understood how pronouns work, so she uses her own name and doesn't know the word "you" actually refers to "the person being spoken to"


Posted by Vernon H. on Oct-19-2007 00:59:

parrots say wanna fuck but they don't know that for sure.


Posted by Ted Promo on Oct-19-2007 01:00:

pics?


Posted by Ted Promo on Oct-19-2007 01:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Vernon H.
parrots say wanna fuck but they don't know that for sure.


Post of the day. Even beating out RJT's Mikey cringe cowboy dealy.


Posted by Lira on Oct-19-2007 01:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Vernon H.
parrots say wanna fuck but they don't know that for sure.

Yeah, but they don't look lustfully at you when they're saying that stuff.

At least, I hope I don't turn any of my parrots on


Posted by Ted Promo on Oct-19-2007 01:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
Yeah, but they don't look lustfully at you when they're saying that stuff.

At least, I hope I don't turn any of my parrots on


They were attracted to pirates a while back. Let's just say I bet they're willing to settle any more.


Posted by Lira on Oct-19-2007 01:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Ted Promo
They were attracted to pirates a while back.

Because of their wooden legs!


Posted by Ted Promo on Oct-19-2007 01:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
Because of their wooden legs!


I fail to see the symbiotic relationship save for maybe abstract innuendo. Unless parrots shit termites.


Posted by Dieselboy_1206 on Oct-19-2007 01:15:

I often find parrots looking lustfully at me while asking me if I would like to partake in sexual intercourse.


Posted by leph555 on Oct-19-2007 01:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Dieselboy_1206
I often find parrots looking lustfully at me while asking me if I would like to partake in sexual intercourse.


just take off the pants and stfu


Posted by Ted Promo on Oct-19-2007 01:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Dieselboy_1206
I often find my parents looking lustfully at me while asking me if I would like to partake in sexual intercourse.


fixed


:/


Posted by tranceDJ on Oct-19-2007 01:31:

My theory on this is that its environmental. IMO children that young shouldn't have naturally developed a sense of "I'm going to die" yet. This could be me being naive but my hope is that the majority of children at least go around with a care-free "nothing bad is ever going to happen to me" attitude. You're supposed to go through childhood not ever having to worry about shit like that because you get to worry plenty about it when you get older. With the amount of violence on TV and around us depending on where you live children are robbed of their care-free attitude which is terrible. The only thing you should have to worry about when you're a kid is "when's snack time going to be? i'm hungry!" or "oops, I just shit my pants"


Posted by leph555 on Oct-19-2007 01:33:

quote:
Originally posted by tranceDJ
The only thing you should have to worry about when you're a kid is "when's snack time going to be? i'm hungry!" or "oops, I just shit my pants"


i wish i was a kid again


Posted by Lira on Oct-19-2007 01:44:

quote:
Originally posted by tranceDJ
You're supposed to go through childhood not ever having to worry about shit like that because you get to worry plenty about it when you get older. With the amount of violence on TV and around us depending on where you live children are robbed of their care-free attitude which is terrible.

Yeah, that's exactly how I was during my childhood - I fell off roofs, climbed windows and I had know idea about what death was.

She lives in a farm, so there's zero violence. I find it hard to blame the TV also, because she watches Lazy Town all day long. My girlfriend thinks it's her niece's mother that inflicted this fear on her...


Posted by Zild on Oct-19-2007 01:45:

Clever girl. I thought I was immortal until at least the age of 19.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Oct-19-2007 01:55:

I'd say it's common amongst children. Not that most kids are aware of it that early, it's just that some children are just that way - fearful of the dark, of death, of things that grown-ups can't really explain to them, or in many rural situations simply cannot explain.

Interestingly enough, I'd say children are often more resilient in examplary cases of these sorts of fears than adults are. and their existential reasoning doesn't even tend to be all that different. Really, do adults know more about what happens after death than children do? They may think that they do, they may have "faith" that they do, but adults are often not much more than a child with an overwhelming number of lies they apply to "define" themselves. which would you say is more traumatic - to discover a truth or to uncover a lie?


Posted by DigitalPhoenix on Oct-19-2007 02:13:

Very interesting, usually children do not grasp the fact of death until about 5 or so...and even then, they refer to it as "sleeping or in heaven"
to me that does sound like external input for a fear of death,
I mean, how could she know the difference of existing as opposed to not, at such young age??


Posted by l�cid on Oct-19-2007 04:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Ted Promo
Post of the day. Even beating out RJT's Mikey cringe cowboy dealy.

that was my post. my invention!


Posted by Boomer187 on Oct-19-2007 04:14:

wait til she googles murder.



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