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soo....i turn on my computer this morning and turn on my external harddrive and its not being recognized... i knew i should have done something about this earlier cuz the drive was making clicking noises but ive been busy with stuff.. so about 100 gigs worth of music has been lost, a collection i took much pride in. tunes that u cant find anymore, hidden gems, mixes, sets, fUK. (only good thing is my cd binder has all my tunes from 2007 but still... FUCK) on top of that, about 30 gigs worth of pics has also been lost....(thank god i have facebook and like 90% of my pics are on there) and to add to that...all my school work. i have an exam on monday and i had just finished making some wicked notes going through 150 pages of my txt book. GONE.


I hate my life.

Bring it into a computer repair store. They may be able to fix it.

If it's making clicking sounds, that sounds like the head/arm is malfunctioning.

A regular computer store will not be able to help you. You would have to take it to a data recovery business. They charge out the ass, but it all depends on how valuble the data is to you.

Another option: buy a good drive, the exact same model, and do a disc swap. You have to open it up, and take the platters out of the old drive, and put them into the new one. It's hard and tricky, but it could save a lot of money if you do it right.

Yeah definetly sounds like that drive is dying or already dead. Data Recovery is the only way to go, but that costs arm and a leg...

read this. it might help.

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...d=&pagenumber=1

How many stories of lost data must people hear before they'll learn to make backups?

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How many stories of lost data must people hear before they'll learn to make backups?

ok so ive always tried to back stuff up, multiple internal hdds, partitions, cd-r's and dvdrs and so far everything has failed for me, my cds and dvds degrade soooooooooo quick and hardly ever work right


what is the easiest way to back your data up ( music, videos, pictures, documents etc.... not so much emails and settings for programs) without worrying about whether the data will still be intact when you actually need to salvage it.

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Originally posted by Flec ok so ive always tried to back stuff up, multiple internal hdds, partitions, cd-r's and dvdrs and so far everything has failed for me, my cds and dvds degrade soooooooooo quick and hardly ever work right what is the easiest way to back your data up ( music, videos, pictures, documents etc.... not so much emails and settings for programs) without worrying about whether the data will still be intact when you actually need to salvage it.

u have to buy better cd/dvd media then. the best for dvds is Taiyo Yuden and verbatim dvd-/+r.

for cd's id assume the same companies produce good quality products. don't go to the local store and buy ritek or ridata. that shit is crap.

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Originally posted by smuncky u have to buy better cd/dvd media then. the best for dvds is Taiyo Yuden and verbatim dvd-/+r. for cd's id assume the same companies produce good quality products. don't go to the local store and buy ritek or ridata. that shit is crap.

i agree that taiyo yuden is top of the line but ive been using ritek/ridata for many years an never had a single problem. no coasters and never burned a disc that couldnt be read years later.

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Originally posted by Orko If it's making clicking sounds, that sounds like the head/arm is malfunctioning. A regular computer store will not be able to help you. You would have to take it to a data recovery business. They charge out the ass, but it all depends on how valuble the data is to you. Another option: buy a good drive, the exact same model, and do a disc swap. You have to open it up, and take the platters out of the old drive, and put them into the new one. It's hard and tricky, but it could save a lot of money if you do it right.

I swapped a circuit board on a drive where an IC blew, and saved my resumees and all my gold stuff.

Swapping heads on those things are very tricky, and need a lot of time and patience... Alignment must be an issue.

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Originally posted by Flec ok so ive always tried to back stuff up, multiple internal hdds, partitions, cd-r's and dvdrs and so far everything has failed for me, my cds and dvds degrade soooooooooo quick and hardly ever work right what is the easiest way to back your data up ( music, videos, pictures, documents etc.... not so much emails and settings for programs) without worrying about whether the data will still be intact when you actually need to salvage it.

Recordable optical media is clearly a poor choice for backups. These types of media are designed with a shelf life of maybe a few years. They're not meant for backups and I believe most even say this explicitly. They're meant mainly for short-term portability.

If you can't afford tapes (and most people can't for their homes) then throw together an uber-cheap server with some big hard drives. Get a gigabit switch, network it with your other computers, and you're set. If you don't trust the hard drives, then set your backup software to verify after backup.

You could technically use another hard drive in the same machine, but it obviously doesn't work so well if you need to back up more than one machine, and you're not protected if the entire box gets fried for some reason.

But I'm assuming that the real reason having an extra internal hard drive didn't work for backup is that you started to fill it up with other things... am I right?

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If you can't afford tapes (and most people can't for their homes) then throw together an uber-cheap server with some big hard drives. Get a gigabit switch, network it with your other computers, and you're set. If you don't trust the hard drives, then set your backup software to verify after backup. You could technically use another hard drive in the same machine, but it obviously doesn't work so well if you need to back up more than one machine, and you're not protected if the entire box gets fried for some reason.

Absolutely. For people like us who have collections of hundreds of gigs of quality music that takes serious time and effort to amass, you HAVE to backup, and the right way. Information storage isnt the cheapest thing, but its pretty cheap when you think about it. just get another hard drive, make a complete copy of your tracks, and consider it musical insurance.

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Originally posted by Orko Another option: buy a good drive, the exact same model, and do a disc swap. You have to open it up, and take the platters out of the old drive, and put them into the new one. It's very hard and extremely tricky, but it could save a lot of money if you do it right.

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First thing I'd do, if its not being recognized at all, check that its even getting power. Boot to your BIOS and see if its recognized as a drive.

Second, stick it in an antistatic bag, and stick it in the freezer for a cuple of hours and try it again. As drives spin, they can create a lot of frictional heat and other sources of heat from the computer can sometimes (but very rarely really) cause allignment issues. Freezing it will shrink the plates inside, and may give you an hour or two of working time if you're lucky to back up your data.

Otherwise, you're up shit creek without a paddle. Be prepared to pay quite a bit from a data recovery exercise. Chances are, it will be so expensive, it will hardly be worth your time. That money you could just save, and sit there and download the stuff again

Let us know how it goes, I'm curious to see..

Best option is RAID mirroring, this is done by using two exact hard drives. Both will have the same data at any time, if one of them fails, then all is not lost.

You can go and buy two more drives, copy stuff from the remaining drive and pursue your life.

The chance of both drives malfunctionning at once is extremly low, you have more chance of having your computer destroyed by fire than both stoping at once.

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Originally posted by malek Best option is RAID mirroring, this is done by using two exact hard drives. Both will have the same data at any time, if one of them fails, then all is not lost. You can go and buy two more drives, copy stuff from the remaining drive and pursue your life. The chance of both drives malfunctionning at once is extremly low, you have more chance of having your computer destroyed by fire than both stoping at once.

Yeah a RAID 1 or RAID 5 array would be one of the safest ways to protect your data, servers all have their hard drives in RAIDs.

thanks for the tips/info. ill try some of these things after tomorrow once my exam is done. right now i have no time to think about this issue but it will all sink in tomorrow

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Originally posted by DigiNut How many stories of lost data must people hear before they'll learn to make backups?

Wow that's so helpful
I'm sure that post turned his life around
... and also made him feel like SHIT lol



I feel for you buddy... been there.
take it to future shop... I got more than half of my stuff retrieved when this happened to me last year
if you were "logged on" as a personal user, then they should be able to recover any of the stuff under "My documents" ... pics, notes, music whatever
xoxo

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Originally posted by Ania_xox Wow that's so helpful I'm sure that post turned his life around ... and also made him feel like SHIT lol I feel for you buddy... been there. take it to future shop... I got more than half of my stuff retrieved when this happened to me last year if you were "logged on" as a personal user, then they should be able to recover any of the stuff under "My documents" ... pics, notes, music whatever xoxo

future shop won't be able to do much, only real chance of getting everything back is at a data recovery center, it's about 5-600 bucks for like a 320 GB hard drive, and there's a 15-20% chance it won't work. This is what a customer of mine told me, and one of the best places in North America is located on Bloor St, Toronto.

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Originally posted by Ania_xox Wow that's so helpful I'm sure that post turned his life around ... and also made him feel like SHIT lol I feel for you buddy... been there. take it to future shop... I got more than half of my stuff retrieved when this happened to me last year if you were "logged on" as a personal user, then they should be able to recover any of the stuff under "My documents" ... pics, notes, music whatever xoxo

The worst thing is when your hard drive and backup hard drive die pretty much simultaneously...

NOw that is just bad luck!

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Originally posted by exstasie The worst thing is when your hard drive and backup hard drive die pretty much simultaneously... NOw that is just bad luck!

lol it's kinda common, cause people buy two hard drives at once from the same batch and run them together, and yeah they would die within a couple days of each other. But yeah just total bad luck if it happens to you lol

My stepfather just returned from Europe today after a three-month trip there. I've only lived with him for three months earlier this year, and before that I haven't lived with him for over a year. Now that he's back it's the biggest cause currently in my life for being depressed and also for going to bed crying. :*( I can't wait till I go to bed, can hug my teddy bear and cry my eyes out.

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Originally posted by Kamka My stepfather just returned from Europe today after a three-month trip there. I've only lived with him for three months earlier this year, and before that I haven't lived with him for over a year. Now that he's back it's the biggest cause currently in my life for being depressed and also for going to bed crying. :*( I can't wait till I go to bed, can hug my teddy bear and cry my eyes out.

... I think the OP was referring to hard drives...

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Originally posted by Kamka My stepfather just returned from Europe today after a three-month trip there. I've only lived with him for three months earlier this year, and before that I haven't lived with him for over a year. Now that he's back it's the biggest cause currently in my life for being depressed and also for going to bed crying. :*( I can't wait till I go to bed, can hug my teddy bear and cry my eyes out.

i think u nailed the problem that the OP is having.

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Originally posted by Kamka My stepfather just returned from Europe today after a three-month trip there. I've only lived with him for three months earlier this year, and before that I haven't lived with him for over a year. Now that he's back it's the biggest cause currently in my life for being depressed and also for going to bed crying. :*( I can't wait till I go to bed, can hug my teddy bear and cry my eyes out.

Poor Kamka.

I always find putting on some nice EDM tunes makes things a bit better.

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Originally posted by Invasionmix ... I think the OP was referring to hard drives...

The title says mid-life crisis... and that's sort of what I feel like, but worse.

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