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Posted by SasH21 on Oct-29-2007 20:30:

Smoking ..umm..something Mommy, do I look slutty enough?

Apparently, witches aren't ugly anymore; they're sexy. So are pirates and pumpkins and princesses--traditional little girl Halloween costumes that used to say, Isn't she cute? now scream, That's hot! with an increasing array of halter tops, bare midriffs and miniskirts. Costume catalogs and Web sites, filled with images of pouty preteens modeling the latest in Halloween fashion, seem almost to verge on child pornography, and ooze with attitude. Witches are "wayward" and grammar-school pirates are "wenches." A girl isn't an Army cadet, she's a "Major Flirt," and who knew female firefighters wore fishnet stockings? Even Little Bo Peep comes with a corset, short skirt and lacy petticoat.

And while complaints about "slutty" kids' costumes may seem like a yearly parents' lament, the industry has been ramping up the sex appeal to ever younger groups of girls. It's not just 10- and 12-year-olds who have gone Halloween trampy. Now 6- and 7-year-old models are featured in catalogs wearing child-sized versions of skimpy costumes that used to be reserved for adult boudoirs. If you think we're exaggerating, note that they're actually selling something called a "Child's Chamber Maid Costume." And, many of the tween girls in the photographs are wearing more make-up than Christina Aguilera on awards night. More disturbing may be their expressions--they look as if they've been told to give the camera their best "sexy" gaze.

Tack on all the licensed outfits from popular TV shows and toy lines like Cheetah Girls, Bratz and Hannah Montana, and parents are having to search farther a field for something that won't make their little trick-or-treater look like a lady of the night. But with adolescent girls parading around in short-shorts that say JUICY across the bottom, and every younger girls aspiring to be a diva of some sort, is it any wonder that their Halloween costumes have gotten racier? "No, but it is distressing," says Joe Kelly, founder of the advocacy group Dads and Daughters. He sees the trend as symptomatic of a deeper issue. "The hypersexualization of younger and younger girls only serves to reinforce gender roles. When an 8-year-old girl can't find a doctor costume because all they have are nurse outfits, that's a problem." Celia Rivenbark, author of the 2006 parental manifesto "Stop Dressing your Six-Year-Old Like a Skank," has noticed it too, and says that Halloween has become "just another excuse for little girls to dress like sluts."


This year Americans will spend close to $2 billion on Halloween costumes, nearly double what they spent in 2003, according to the National Retail Federation. With so much money up for grabs, more and more retailers have elbowed their way into the costume market, increasing the pressure to offer a unique take on old favorites. "The idea of vamping up the appeal of the costume is something we've seen a lot of," says NRF spokesperson Kathy Grannis. So while the variety of costumes has certainly increased, they all look more and more alike. Whether it's a "Midnight Fairy Rock Girl," a "Scar-let Pirate" or "Miss-Behaved," chances are if you buy your daughter the costume she really wants, the one all the other little girls are wearing, she'll show up at the neighbor's doorstep in a choker collar, high-heels and baring enough skin to give you a real fright.

These new "edgier" costumes are simply reflections of pop culture, says Jackie MacDonald, a costume buyer for catalog giant Lillian Vernon. "Girls today seem to like a little pizzazz. The same old princesses aren't where it's at anymore," she says, before carefully noting, "We don't want to say they're sexier, just more confident."

Not that there's anything patently wrong with young girls wanting to look pretty. Child psychologists agree that embracing and understanding their attractiveness is a key part of early-adolescent development for girls. But when sexiness and body image become the sole criteria by which they judge themselves and each other, "That's when we start to see problems," says Dr. Eileen Zurbriggen, a professor of psychology at the University of California, Santa Cruz, who last year chaired the American Psychological Association's (APA) Task Force on the Sexualization of Girls. Their report, issued in February, declared that, "Throughout U.S. culture, and particularly in mainstream media, women and girls are depicted in a sexualized manner."

That shouldn't come as much of a surprise to anyone who's watched TV or thumbed through a magazine in the last 50 years. But what might be news is the increasing evidence of the negative impact an overemphasis on body image has on girls' lives. The APA task force's team of psychologists linked oversexualization with three of the most common mental health problems for women 18 and older: eating disorders, low self-esteem and depression. And there is evidence that the effect is trickling down the age brackets. "Clinicians are reporting that younger and younger girls are presenting with eating disorders and are on diets," says Zurbriggen.

Dr. Sharon Lamb, also on the APA task force, has recently coauthored a book, "Packaging Girlhood: Rescuing Our Daughters From Marketing Schemes," which includes a chapter devoted solely to sexy Halloween costumes. Lamb points out that most Web sites selling kids Halloween costumes divide merchandise along gender lines, and typically offer more choices for boys than girls (boys get to be doctors, police officers as well as gory monsters and "Star Wars" characters). Of the 22 girl costumes featured on one Web site Lamb looked at, 15 were cheerleaders, divas and rock stars. "That really limits girls' imaginations," says Lamb, who surveyed 600 young girls for the book, many of whom admitted to dressing up as something sexy for Halloween in order to get attention.

Of course this not the kind of attention most parents want for their pre-teen daughters. But how do you compromise with a kid who's begging to be a saucy witch when all you want to do is go back to the days when she wanted to be a lion cub or a Teletubby? There's no easy answer for that question. But even if you can't talk her into a Hillary Clinton pantsuit, you might be able to convince her that real pirates wear pants.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/62474/page/1


Posted by chinamon on Oct-29-2007 21:25:

you can never look slutty enough.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Oct-29-2007 21:34:

LoL...I love how "pop culture" is the scapegoat here. Blame the fucking parents!! The fuck's wrong with people?? Ugh.


Posted by Jem_hadar on Oct-29-2007 21:37:

god bless hallowe'en eh? whod have thought this would have been some kind of issue way back when it all started lol


Posted by Ozmozis on Oct-29-2007 22:03:

Sexual Harrassment Panda <3's SLUTS!!



(note: Sexual Harrassment Panda is not in any way reffering to these ladies as sluts)


Posted by Jem_hadar on Oct-29-2007 22:10:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
LoL...I love how "pop culture" is the scapegoat here. Blame the fucking parents!! The fuck's wrong with people?? Ugh.


exactly. so easy to pass the buck. they're YOUR KIDS! Deal with them and how they dress!

everything circumstance cant always be someone else's fault! (but sure seems like pop culture is the blame for EVERYTHING... like as if parents have no say things lol)... quit passing the buck and look in the mirror to see the culprit.


Posted by Yohan on Oct-29-2007 23:06:

Jamie, chick on the left. Real or fake? I can't tell


Posted by I_Am_Vince on Oct-29-2007 23:09:

quote:
Originally posted by SasH21
So will be there for sure now! Yay, but without a costumer...NAKED JK


lol I guess going naked is better than dressing skimpy :P jk Sasha


Posted by exstasie on Oct-29-2007 23:20:

...the less clothes the better.


Posted by zoogla on Oct-29-2007 23:22:

pics or stfu.
quote:
Originally posted by �Zm�zis

oh, nevermind.


Posted by nacarter on Oct-30-2007 00:36:

As much as I applaud the 'do some damn parenting' point of view, parents are getting little help from retailers. Finding a tasteful costume (clowns, princesses, superheroes) is easy if you're shopping for a 4 year old. I went shopping with my aunt for her two daughters (8 and 10), and the selection in most stores would make a Jarvis St. hooker blush... and we were in Sears!?! Wal-mart was no better. We wound up heading to a Goodwill to find something old school that wasn't going to expose the crack of my cousin's ass - I don't want to see that!!!

There's a time and place for girls to dress and act trashy (19 and Saturday night at the Guv). 8 and 10 and trick-or-treating ain't it!


Posted by sixtysix on Oct-30-2007 00:40:

hahaha, girls costumes can get pretty ridiculous. To be brutally honest, they are all the same, revealing shirt, mini-skirt and the only thing that distinguishes the constume will be a hat of some sort. (Fire hate, police hat, bunny ears, etc.) Someone should start a thread with pictures of some of the sluttiest halloween costumes ever seen hahaha


Posted by smuncky on Oct-30-2007 00:48:

more pics or stfu


Posted by Nicolas Oliver on Oct-30-2007 00:57:

quote:
Originally posted by EvilTree
Jamie, chick on the left. Real or fake? I can't tell


Of course I could be wrong but she looks like a teenager to me and, so, I'd expect that the answer is real not fake.


Posted by exstasie on Oct-30-2007 01:00:

quote:
Originally posted by EvilTree
Jamie, chick on the left. Real or fake? I can't tell



I like


Posted by DigiNut on Oct-30-2007 01:06:

quote:
Originally posted by nacarter
As much as I applaud the 'do some damn parenting' point of view, parents are getting little help from retailers. Finding a tasteful costume (clowns, princesses, superheroes) is easy if you're shopping for a 4 year old. I went shopping with my aunt for her two daughters (8 and 10), and the selection in most stores would make a Jarvis St. hooker blush... and we were in Sears!?! Wal-mart was no better. We wound up heading to a Goodwill to find something old school that wasn't going to expose the crack of my cousin's ass - I don't want to see that!!!

There's a time and place for girls to dress and act trashy (19 and Saturday night at the Guv). 8 and 10 and trick-or-treating ain't it!

Of course, they're getting no help at all from retailers - but if every parent refused to buy any of the skank costumes and perhaps wrote a letter explaining this decision, the retailers would change their selection quickly enough. Customers hold all the cards, they're just too lazy (I'm sorry - "busy") to play them.

Most parents wait until the very last minute to do this shopping, they're desperate to find costumes for their kids and they'll take whatever's available. When the consumer's primary concern is convenience and minimal effort, retailers can pretty well sell whatever they please.

I could swear there used to be a time when people actually made Halloween costumes...


Posted by exstasie on Oct-30-2007 01:11:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Of course, they're getting no help at all from retailers - but if every parent refused to buy any of the skank costumes and perhaps wrote a letter explaining this decision, the retailers would change their selection quickly enough. Customers hold all the cards, they're just too lazy (I'm sorry - "busy") to play them.

Most parents wait until the very last minute to do this shopping, they're desperate to find costumes for their kids and they'll take whatever's available. When the consumer's primary concern is convenience and minimal effort, retailers can pretty well sell whatever they please.

I could swear there used to be a time when people actually made Halloween costumes...


Just because a parent enforces something doesn't mean they have to listen. Sure they can leave the house in there PG-13 costume, but 5 minutes later they're in the washroom at their friends house skanking it up.

I don't think you can really blame the parents. Girls just dress like that cause they like the attention from the guys. So ITS YOUR FAULT BOYS!!


Posted by RobotHouse on Oct-30-2007 01:25:

I think the real issue here is how difficult it must be for the actual hookers on Halloween and how often they must get mistaken for party goers. So tragic.


Posted by DigiNut on Oct-30-2007 01:25:

quote:
Originally posted by exstasie
Just because a parent enforces something doesn't mean they have to listen. Sure they can leave the house in there PG-13 costume, but 5 minutes later they're in the washroom at their friends house skanking it up.

First of all, 8-year-old kids are going to have a pretty hard time finding and buying said costume without their parents' knowledge or consent.

You've also implicitly stated that the "good" parent has just sent their kid off to a friend's house and ditched them for the night. I don't think it's very likely that this would happen with an 8-year-old, and if it does, then again, the "good" parent isn't actually so good.

Most importantly, the "bad influence" issue has been around for generations. Part of a parent's responsibility is to make sure their children don't hang out with these fuckups.

Parents CAN control their kids, especially at that age, and if they're disciplined properly at a young age then they generally won't be total sluts by age 12 (no guarantees, but at least there's a chance). Nothing has changed in the past 50 years to shift the balance of power, it's just that the consequences of half-assed parenting have become much worse.


Posted by exstasie on Oct-30-2007 01:39:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
First of all, 8-year-old kids are going to have a pretty hard time finding and buying said costume without their parents' knowledge or consent.

You've also implicitly stated that the "good" parent has just sent their kid off to a friend's house and ditched them for the night. I don't think it's very likely that this would happen with an 8-year-old, and if it does, then again, the "good" parent isn't actually so good.

Most importantly, the "bad influence" issue has been around for generations. Part of a parent's responsibility is to make sure their children don't hang out with these fuckups.

Parents CAN control their kids, especially at that age, and if they're disciplined properly at a young age then they generally won't be total sluts by age 12 (no guarantees, but at least there's a chance). Nothing has changed in the past 50 years to shift the balance of power, it's just that the consequences of half-assed parenting have become much worse.



I didn't read the article since I don't like reading...but yeah, i agree with what you said. I was referring the girls that are like 13+.


Posted by Orko on Oct-30-2007 01:48:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Nothing has changed in the past 50 years to shift the balance of power, it's just that the consequences of half-assed parenting have become much worse.


Buying power? It seems as if kids have more money to go out and spend these days.


Posted by DigiNut on Oct-30-2007 01:53:

quote:
Originally posted by exstasie
I didn't read the article since I don't like reading...but yeah, i agree with what you said. I was referring the girls that are like 13+.

Ah. It does occasionally help to read the topic before replying.

Yes, for 13+, if that's what they're doing then you're pretty much hosed as a parent - although parents CAN mitigate that problem by simply not giving their kids assloads of disposable income. A 13-year-old kid still has to acquire this stuff somehow and it's going to be difficult without any money. If they want to get jobs, they can be as slutty as they want - most of them won't want to do that, because working means less time to go around being a slut.


quote:
Originally posted by Orko
Buying power? It seems as if kids have more money to go out and spend these days.

When I was that age, I got $5 per week and was glad to get it. Parents are not obligated to give their kids spending money.


Posted by Jem_hadar on Oct-30-2007 02:41:

quote:
Originally posted by EvilTree
Jamie, chick on the left. Real or fake? I can't tell


god, my gut and first instincts tell me real.

its the damn bikini top shes wearing, the way its griping her and holding her girls. - its the culprit giving the image of possible fake-ness.

no, i think they appear to be natural, shes just larger and very lucky w/ how self-supportive her breasts are. couple that with this hold-em-up favourably tight bikini top, and they are appearing like they could be fake.


Posted by Cosmic Fur on Oct-30-2007 02:41:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Of course, they're getting no help at all from retailers - but if every parent refused to buy any of the skank costumes and perhaps wrote a letter explaining this decision, the retailers would change their selection quickly enough. Customers hold all the cards, they're just too lazy (I'm sorry - "busy") to play them.

Most parents wait until the very last minute to do this shopping, they're desperate to find costumes for their kids and they'll take whatever's available. When the consumer's primary concern is convenience and minimal effort, retailers can pretty well sell whatever they please.

I could swear there used to be a time when people actually made Halloween costumes...


I kinda agree, but I would say that the stronger forces at work here are the forces of supply and demand. I doubt the retailers suddenly went, "oh let's sluttify our costume line for no reason." The sluttier costumes sold better than the conservative ones, so they shifted to making more and more slutty costumes. So yes, parents are to blame here - they started the trend of buying slutty costumes for kids, the retailers just responded.


Posted by I_Am_Vince on Oct-30-2007 02:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Jem_hadar
god, my gut and first instincts tell me real.

its the damn bikini top shes wearing, the way its griping her and holding her girls. - its the culprit giving the image of possible fake-ness.

no, i think they appear to be natural, shes just larger and very lucky w/ how self-supportive her breasts are. couple that with this hold-em-up favourably tight bikini top, and they are appearing like they could be fake.


lol that's a very good analysis, this guy's a professional haha.


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