Ho to record Midi after an arp in Live

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Posted by Khayat on Nov-04-2007 21:38:

Ho to record Midi after an arp in Live

hey guys im stuck here,
just realized that this is possible hehe
So my problem is how to record midi after arpeggio in Ableton live if you are using Vsts not hardware
help would be appreciated
thanx

Posted by SPAWNmaster on Nov-04-2007 21:41:

what are you talking about?

Posted by Khayat on Nov-04-2007 21:59:

I just read somewhere that after u play midi notes in instrument that has an arp u can take that edited midi note "through the arp of the instrument" from the midi out into another channel and u will have new midi notes...the one u hear from the arp
do u get me?

Posted by babablacksheep on Nov-04-2007 22:08:

Khayat, your description is still a little confusing, is there anyway you can explain it better?

Posted by wrzonance on Nov-04-2007 22:16:

I think he wants to do this.

MIDI IN -> VST w/ arp

Yay you have an arp. But you want to record the arp midi data so you can edit your arpeggiation manually.

So somehow you want to do

MIDI IN Track 1 -> VST w/ arp -> MIDI IN Track 2

I'm not sure it will work, I'm not sure the output of your channel with the VST instrument in it will output arpegiated midi note data.

Let me try something...

...okay. From what I was abled to gather from messing about in Ableton was that once a VSTi is inserted on a midi track it's output becomes audio. There's no way of assiging the MIDI data that is coming OUT of the virtual instrument to another track.

Maybe you can find another work around, but as far as I can tell... You might have to grow a pair and write your own arpeggios.

Posted by Khayat on Nov-04-2007 22:34:

quote:
Originally posted by wrzonance
I think he wants to do this.

MIDI IN -> VST w/ arp

Yay you have an arp. But you want to record the arp midi data so you can edit your arpeggiation manually.

So somehow you want to do

MIDI IN Track 1 -> VST w/ arp -> MIDI IN Track 2

I'm not sure it will work, I'm not sure the output of your channel with the VST instrument in it will output arpegiated midi note data.

Let me try something...

...okay. From what I was abled to gather from messing about in Ableton was that once a VSTi is inserted on a midi track it's output becomes audio. There's no way of assiging the MIDI data that is coming OUT of the virtual instrument to another track.

Maybe you can find another work around, but as far as I can tell... You might have to grow a pair and write your own arpeggios.

Thats exactly my problem u summed up all what i did till now including the audio problem

Posted by 3F05Q on Nov-05-2007 00:56:

Why not use Live's arpeggiator?

MIDI 1: Input from keyboard > Arpeggiator (You can also put the chord plugin before or the scale plugin afterward if you wish)

Route MIDI 1's output to MIDI 2

MIDI 2: arm and record while playing to Midi 1

this will record the arp pattern to clips in MIDI 2 which can then be manipulated note-by-note. MIDI 2 can contain your VSTi or you can drag the arp'd clip to whatever midi track you want.

Is that what you're going for?

Posted by Zombie0729 on Nov-05-2007 03:00:

yeah, only some arps are able to send correct midi data back to ableton.

Posted by hereander on Nov-05-2007 09:13:

I wrote a tutorial on the midi-arp in live on this forum some time ago. I cant find it, but it is still on here:

http://www.serious-sounds.net/music...nstruction.html

no 3rd-party arp though