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BitTorrent blocking goes north: Canadian ISP (Bell) admits to throttling P2P

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In response to consumer complaints posted in the company's official forum, Canadian ISP Bell Sympatico has admitted that it uses bandwidth throttling technologies to impose limitations on peer-to-peer (P2P) file-sharing during peak hours. This revelation is further evidence that net neutrality�the principle of equal treatment for all traffic through a network�is eroding. "[W]e are now using a Internet Traffic Management to restrict accounts that are using a large portion of bandwidth during peak hours," a Sympatico forum administrator wrote in response to a user complaint. The forum administrator also provides a list of affected applications, which includes BitTorrent, Gnutella, Limewire, Kazaa, and other widely-used P2P applications. Readers of Broadband Reports had been suspicious for some time that the ISP was throttling traffic.

Full Story: HERE

Fucking Bell...

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Originally posted by Chris Allen Full Story: HERE Fucking Bell...

It's better then being throttled 24/7 by Rogers

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Originally posted by E2EK1EL It's better then being throttled 24/7 by Rogers

+1

I'm downloading right now at 100kb/s (uploading 40kb/s) and i'm thinking that this is awesome haha

im with rogers and sometimes i can download 300+ KB/s with torrents but i cant seed for shit.

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Originally posted by chinamon im with rogers and sometimes i can download 300+ KB/s with torrents but i cant seed for shit.

540+ kBps here the other day on rogers...

average is 250 or so

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Originally posted by El K Dee 540+ kBps here the other day on rogers... average is 250 or so

My friend can download close to 2mBps

It's pathetic

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Originally posted by E2EK1EL It's better then being throttled 24/7 by Rogers

True.

However Bell is continually getting sneakier and sneakier.

I found out that my account has a cap of 60GB/month, when the contract clearly stipulates that it's unlimited.

They won't enforce unless you're going over 250GB on a consistent basis however, but it's still a shady practice.

What ever happened to loyal and trustworthy companies not looking to screw over their own customers

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Originally posted by Chris Allen True. However Bell is continually getting sneakier and sneakier. I found out that my account has a cap of 60GB/month, when the contract clearly stipulates that it's unlimited. They won't enforce unless you're going over 250GB on a consistent basis however, but it's still a shady practice. What ever happened to loyal and trustworthy companies not looking to screw over their own customers

no such thing as unlimited nemore. I think bell now puts 60gb in their eula or whatnot

i got disconnected from cogeco for going at 100GB over 60GB quota

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Originally posted by Chris Allen True. ...What ever happened to loyal and trustworthy companies not looking to screw over their own customers

we're in the year 2007 friend, not 1947

lol!

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Originally posted by exstasie My friend can download close to 2mBps It's pathetic

what provider and whereabouts???

keep in mind i share the net with 3 others and we all use torrents

agreed, FUCK YOU BELL!

i'd appreciate some better options!

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Originally posted by El K Dee what provider and whereabouts??? keep in mind i share the net with 3 others and we all use torrents

He has a program which lets you connect to multiple connects at once. I forget what its called.

So essentially, you can connect to like 10 wireless unencryted connections at once, and he lives in a Condo by Skydome so its easy to connect to dozens at once...

if u read bbreports, some people mention that it's only trafficing those who are exessive users and who have been sent letters. and by exessive i mean over 300-400gb.

i for one am not experiencing any slowdown on my BT, and i usually have 250gb traffic a month.

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Originally posted by djbruuen i'd appreciate some better options!

+1

ok so it sounds like rogers is worse than bells but bells also sucks balls.

I'm looking for a landline and broadband provider. Any suggestions?

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Originally posted by eRRaTiK +1 ok so it sounds like rogers is worse than bells but bells also sucks balls. I'm looking for a landline and broadband provider. Any suggestions?

for dsl go with teksavvy

www.teksavvy.com

u wont find better tech support anywhere. and for 30$ unlimited is a good deal. the only catch is that u better hope u have a good connection and aren't far from a CO.

i suggest u give them a call and see how far u are from a CO by giving them ur address. they'll be able to find out if you might have a good or bad connection.

Can easily get the full 6 megabits on RS with Rogers. Weekends are slower, but that's no doubt due to higher overall traffic.

Rogers is not worse than Bell. Nobody is worse than Bell. Ted Rogers could walk right up to my front door, ring the doorbell, and piss on my shoe, and Bell would still be worse.

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Originally posted by DigiNut Rogers is not worse than Bell. Nobody is worse than Bell. Ted Rogers could walk right up to my front door, ring the doorbell, and piss on my shoe, and Bell would still be worse.

+1

the only thing that is horrible with rogers is support

btw im using aurora cable and i get 1mb/sec download

9mps

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Originally posted by DigiNut Ted Rogers could walk right up to my front door, ring the doorbell, and piss on my shoe, and Bell would still be worse.

LOL. You could ebay your shoe in that case!

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Originally posted by geroin +1 the only thing that is horrible with rogers is support btw im using aurora cable and i get 1mb/sec download 9mps

Is that the Extreme/Extreme+? The standard connection actually specifies a pipe of 6 Mbps (or 6.5 or something like that).

Rogers support is garbage, but that's true of almost every large company. Bell's support is abominable, even on the business side. Rogers makes you wait 20 minutes to talk to a support rep with an IQ of 65; Bell makes you wait 20 minutes to have your call disconnected.

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Originally posted by Chris Allen True. However Bell is continually getting sneakier and sneakier. I found out that my account has a cap of 60GB/month, when the contract clearly stipulates that it's unlimited. They won't enforce unless you're going over 250GB on a consistent basis however, but it's still a shady practice. What ever happened to loyal and trustworthy companies not looking to screw over their own customers

NOOOOOOOOOOOO! I do 60GB in a week Fuck!

Anyone here have the Bell Total Internet service?

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Originally posted by DigiNut Is that the Extreme/Extreme+? The standard connection actually specifies a pipe of 6 Mbps (or 6.5 or something like that). Rogers support is garbage, but that's true of almost every large company. Bell's support is abominable, even on the business side. Rogers makes you wait 20 minutes to talk to a support rep with an IQ of 65; Bell makes you wait 20 minutes to have your call disconnected.

I think it depends to if your area has a connection of 9 Mbps. I think the max I can get is 8 Mpbs right now.

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Originally posted by DigiNut Is that the Extreme/Extreme+? The standard connection actually specifies a pipe of 6 Mbps (or 6.5 or something like that). Rogers support is garbage, but that's true of almost every large company. Bell's support is abominable, even on the business side. Rogers makes you wait 20 minutes to talk to a support rep with an IQ of 65; Bell makes you wait 20 minutes to have your call disconnected.

i believe it is the fastest internet connection available in ON or canada for residential area, it is not an extreme, just normal connection they provide, more info on http://www.aci.on.ca
rogers i think is about 5mbps

aurora cable only works in aurora/king city area, it's basically a little square of land that they provide connection to
here is the coverage area
http://www.aci.on.ca/images/aci_service.area_map.jpg

Oh, I assumed we were talking about Rogers, not ACI. Maybe ACI offers more bandwidth.

Rogers claims 7 Mbps / 512 Kbps on their site for the "Express", which is the standard. The next is Extreme which is supposedly 8 Mbps / 800 Kbps. And the Extreme Plus is "up to" 18 Mbps / 1 Mbps, whatever that means - it sounds like they think they can deliver it as long as you're not on a crappy old 10 megabit switch.

The Extreme Plus is also $100/month. No thanks. Considering the marginal difference in downstream bandwidth between the Express and Extreme, Extreme seems like a waste of money unless you really need the extra upload.

Anyway, you really can get those speeds from Rogers, just not on Torrents. But torrents are always slow because half of your bandwidth is getting munched by the protocol itself.

cant seed torrents for shit either.

Does anyone have any alternate suggestions for seeding (legal) torrents? I'm always doing a lot of traffic with BitTorrent but I don't really like the idea of being penalized for widespread illegal usage of the technology.

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