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snow tires (and porkchop sandwiches)

i need new tires for my car (2003 Jetta 1.8T) and having never owned a car with snow tires before, i am wondering if they might be worth investing in. i have a 25 mile commute to and from work, all city streets, lots of stop lights... and with Wisconsin winters being so unpredictable i am thinking i definitely need something with good traction and handling on snowy/icy roads. i've only ever had all-season tires on my cars, and the ones on my Accord were pretty terrible in the winter time - every time it snowed i felt like i was going to drift off the road at every turn.

granted, that's to be expected in that sort of weather, but do snow tires really make a difference, or should i just stick with good all seasons?

http://www.1010tires.com/tech.asp?type=tires

Recommend 100%.

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Originally posted by l�cid but do snow tires really make a difference

Yes they do. There's no such thing as a "good all seasons tire". I don't know what kind of winters you get over there but having all seasons tires here is practically a suicide.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Yes they do. There's no such thing as a "good all seasons tire". I don't know what kind of winters you get over there but having all seasons tires here is practically a suicide.

unless you live in florida...

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Originally posted by Zewad unless you live in florida...

Yes, that's highly relevant.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Yes, that's highly relevant.

i reread your quote and you said "here" i read it as in general...

my bad.. you are right on teh relevancy -1 for me

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Originally posted by l�cid my car (2003 Jetta 1.8T)

Further evidence toward the hot chick/jetta theory.

BTW, snow tires are worth every dollar.

I don't have to worry about snow tires down here

woot woot, fuck you winter!

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard Further evidence toward the hot chick/jetta theory.

lol smoooth.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Yes they do. There's no such thing as a "good all seasons tire". I don't know what kind of winters you get over there but having all seasons tires here is practically a suicide.

they are pretty much stupid for any weather other than rain and summer weather. i even say fuck them period and get tires made more for rain than all season. 2 sets of wheels = win.

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard Further evidence toward the hot chick/jetta theory.

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BTW, snow tires are worth every dollar.

based on everyone's replies and the research i've read, that seems to be the general consensus. i'll probably end up getting some since it's going to cost me about the same, whether i get new winter tires & wheels, or new tires for my current wheels.

thanks guys!

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard Further evidence toward the hot chick/jetta theory.

*makes sure Rob is not looking*

hehehehehehehehehehehehehehe





Oh, and Georgians would die even with snow tires. The second it rains or snows a millimeter... ROADS CLOSED GET THE FUCK OUT

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Originally posted by iammesol *makes sure Rob is not looking* hehehehehehehehehehehehehehe

Rob and I have an understanding.

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Originally posted by iammesol Oh, and Georgians would die even with snow tires. The second it rains or snows a millimeter... ROADS CLOSED GET THE FUCK OUT

You'd think it'd be different around here but no... every single year we have to witness the "MOTORISTS SURPRISED BY SNOW!"-headlines. First snow falls pretty much the same time every single year. Whoa, what a surprise!

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Originally posted by iammesol *makes sure Rob is not looking* hehehehehehehehehehehehehehe Oh, and Georgians would die even with snow tires. The second it rains or snows a millimeter... ROADS CLOSED GET THE FUCK OUT

also, is there anything i should know when switching from 17" rims with wider tires to smaller steel wheels with snow tires? i'm looking at some packages right now on tirerack.com and i'm assuming i'll be good with whatever size they recommend for my vehicle, right?

If you're in the U.S., best online tire resource (and cheapest tires; if you prefer to go into a shop, you should compare pricing with this site):

www.tirerack.com

I did a quick search (recently went through this whole process for winter tires on my new car) and got the following for you:

http://www.tirerack.com/snow/Winter...03&autoModClar=

I recommend the 15" rims (as opposed to your stock 16") because the 195/65/15 are thinner than your stock 205/55/16. For winter tires, you'll find better traction with thinner tires as opposed to wider rubber for summer tires. Think of the snow tires as thin ice skates, which carve through the ice/snow better than wider skates. Better control.

Anyway, as far as recommendations, my Mom has been happy with her Pirelli Snowsport 210 for her '04 Jetta TDI and I used the same for my previous 2 cars (Civic/Prelude). One of the cheapest and best value for $$$ out there.

However, right now I'm going with Dunlop Winter Sport M3s which are higher-performance tires and very highly recommended among car enthusiast forum members for German performance cars (e.g. Porsche, BMW M3, Audi RS4).

You can see the tire ratings on tirerack.com also:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surve...jsp?type=W&VT=C

Good luck!

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery You'd think it'd be different around here but no... every single year we have to witness the "MOTORISTS SURPRISED BY SNOW!"-headlines. First snow falls pretty much the same time every single year. Whoa, what a surprise!

lol, people are so stupid

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Originally posted by l�cid

I laughed so hard the first time you posted that.

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Originally posted by l�cid also, is there anything i should know when switching from 17" rims with wider tires to smaller steel wheels with snow tires? i'm looking at some packages right now on tirerack.com and i'm assuming i'll be good with whatever size they recommend for my vehicle, right?

Nice, you're already a step ahead!

Didn't know you were running 17s...as long as you haven't upgraded your brakes or anything to large-sized ones you should be fine with the 15s I recommended. I believe you had stock 16s, right? And you upgraded to 17s?

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Originally posted by fayraree Nice, you're already a step ahead! Didn't know you were running 17s...as long as you haven't upgraded your brakes or anything to large-sized ones you should be fine with the 15s I recommended. I believe you had stock 16s, right? And you upgraded to 17s?

everything on my car is stock. the wheels are the optional 17s, as shown in this photo:



thanks for the help. i saw that tirerack had winter wheel packages in both 15s and 16s for my car, but i wasn't sure what difference it makes.

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Originally posted by l�cid

motherfuck lol that is great

wtf is with all u n00bs hijacking this meaningful thread?

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Originally posted by fayraree wtf is with all u n00bs hijacking this meaningful thread?

I wouldn't really be talking about noobs if I were you.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery You'd think it'd be different around here but no... every single year we have to witness the "MOTORISTS SURPRISED BY SNOW!"-headlines. First snow falls pretty much the same time every single year. Whoa, what a surprise!

Happens here in Ohio too. It's fairly unpredictable as to when the snow will start, but it snows plenty every year. I never understood why every first snowfall here there are approximately one billion wrecks en route to work.

OH GOD SAME SHIT AS EVERY YEAR JUST HAPPENED.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery I wouldn't really be talking about noobs if I were you.

He's all growed up though.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery I wouldn't really be talking about noobs if I were you.

please don't use your "Registered: Dec 2001" powers on me!

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