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Posted by Sushipunk on Nov-10-2007 07:28:

Photography

I know there are a few folks around here that are into photography, so I thought I may as well post this up.

I currently have a Canon 400D, with two lenses. The little one is an EFS 18-55mm, and the zoom lens is an EF 75-300mm.

I'm more interested in the zoom lens though.

Most of the pics I'm looking to take will be of wildlife, more specifically, birds (big surprise )

I really want to get an Image Stabilised lens, with roughly the same zoom as the (non image stabilised) one I have. Most shots will be taken hand-held, as I don't have a tripod at the moment, and I'm finding that I'm losing a lot of sharpness due to shakes, that an IS lens may be able to correct quite a bit. I also don't want to lug around a tripod all the time

I've been looking at a couple, one a Canon lens, and one a Sigma lens. Since I'm only starting out on the whole photography thing, I was wondering if you guys have any particular recommendations?


Posted by goodgreef on Nov-10-2007 07:46:

If you have a canon - get the L lens series..anything with that is worth the ridiculous amount of money you will pay for it.
A photographer without a tripod is like a boat without an anchor..useless :P You gotta get one!!!! You won't be able to get any telephoto shots with your zoom lens because the shake will be too great and your photos will come out blurry - its just natural at that distance.

There was a photography thread that i made here a few years back with everyone's photos in them. If you search you might be able to find it, though I dunno.. it may have been purged out by now.

Good luck! bird photography can be really cool.


Posted by Sushipunk on Nov-10-2007 07:59:

quote:
Originally posted by goodgreef
If you have a canon - get the L lens series..anything with that is worth the ridiculous amount of money you will pay for it.
A photographer without a tripod is like a boat without an anchor..useless :P You gotta get one!!!! You won't be able to get any telephoto shots with your zoom lens because the shake will be too great and your photos will come out blurry - its just natural at that distance.

There was a photography thread that i made here a few years back with everyone's photos in them. If you search you might be able to find it, though I dunno.. it may have been purged out by now.

Good luck! bird photography can be really cool.


I will be getting a tripod soon. Think I found one today that is just what I'm looking for.

Yeah though, I would LOVE to get and L series lens, but at the moment I just can't justify that kind of expense (fuck, I came sooooo close to buying one today )

The Canon lens I was looking at is the EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS USM lens.

Sigma make a similar one.


Posted by mezzir on Nov-10-2007 08:04:

see i'd say get a tripod and stfu, but i've seen some wildlife shots of yours which, unfortunately, sometimes require spontinaity that you can't get if you rely on a tripod. that said, i really don't remember anything from my photographer days and i can't be of much of any help


Posted by goodgreef on Nov-10-2007 08:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk
I will be getting a tripod soon. Think I found one today that is just what I'm looking for.

Yeah though, I would LOVE to get and L series lens, but at the moment I just can't justify that kind of expense (fuck, I came sooooo close to buying one today )

The Canon lens I was looking at is the EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS USM lens.

Sigma make a similar one.
that's a great lens. Your f-stop is limited but when you get a tripod that shouldn't be a problem. Ideally, if you can have a bigger fstop you're set for life (something like 2ish haha)..mm..
Image Stabilization will also be an added bonus, especially for your type of photos.

I don't know much about the comparable lens from Sigma but I have always known them to be pretty good. There are always some things that are "worse" than the canon lenses but these things are always minimal.


Posted by Spacey Orange on Nov-10-2007 08:06:

are we talking about 'birds' as in the british slang sort of way? if so, godspeed.


Posted by Sushipunk on Nov-10-2007 08:18:

quote:
Originally posted by mezzir
see i'd say get a tripod and stfu, but i've seen some wildlife shots of yours which, unfortunately, sometimes require spontinaity that you can't get if you rely on a tripod.


Yeah, that's the tricky part with trying to get birds on film. They move so god damn fast that it essentially means I'm limited to hand-held shooting, unless I sit in a specific spot for [insert number] of hours and hope they just come to me, rather than following them about.

I will get a tripod soon though!

quote:
Originally posted by goodgreef
that's a great lens. Your f-stop is limited but when you get a tripod that shouldn't be a problem. Ideally, if you can have a bigger fstop you're set for life (something like 2ish haha)..mm..
Image Stabilization will also be an added bonus, especially for your type of photos.


Yeah, but the fstop 2.xx lenses cost soooo much

Definitely need the IS though. BIGTIME.

quote:
Originally posted by goodgreef I don't know much about the comparable lens from Sigma but I have always known them to be pretty good. There are always some things that are "worse" than the canon lenses but these things are always minimal.


Know much about Tamron lenses?

quote:
Originally posted by Spacey Orange
are we talking about 'birds' as in the british slang sort of way? if so, godspeed.


Nah, sorry mate


Posted by goodgreef on Nov-10-2007 08:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk




Know much about Tamron lenses?
not much more than sigma.. I've always preferred Sigma to Tamron. But only because I always heard better things about Sigma vs. Tamron.


Posted by Sushipunk on Nov-10-2007 08:22:

quote:
Originally posted by goodgreef
not much more than sigma.. I've always preferred Sigma to Tamron. But only because I always heard better things about Sigma vs. Tamron.


Yeah, I kinda heard the same thing, but I figured it's always good to get as many opinions as possible.

Cheers mate


Posted by stren on Nov-10-2007 08:41:

I hear Sigma lens are really good ( cheeper then canon and they fit)

I'm planning on buying a canon eos 350d in 2 months


Posted by Sushipunk on Nov-10-2007 08:44:

quote:
Originally posted by stren
I hear Sigma lens are really good ( cheeper then canon and they fit)

I'm planning on buying a canon eos 350d in 2 months


Yeah, they're definitely cheaper. I just wonder what kind of 'trade off' you have to make, if any?


Posted by chach on Nov-10-2007 14:29:

My friend wants to get the SLR camera I told her it was a waste of money.


Posted by SpecialedXL on Nov-10-2007 15:35:

post pixs!!!


Posted by Sushipunk on Nov-11-2007 09:51:

Bump.

Ok, just purchased a Canon EF 70-300mm f4-5.6 IS USM lens.

Can't wait

Coming from the US though, so I have to wait like a week or so

iCryMuch.


Posted by LiquidNitrogen on Nov-11-2007 13:22:

Dude, you oughta buy a tripod first. I personally think your lens are pretty good but in case if you are getting an USM IS lens it's not a bad thing either, but still tripod is a necessity though a better lens is a luxury.

You also might want to look at monopods as an option.

check out my album if you want http://picasaweb.google.com/rohits79


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Nov-11-2007 16:04:

No Pictures in a Photography Thread


Posted by Sushipunk on Nov-11-2007 21:28:

quote:
Originally posted by LiquidNitrogen
Dude, you oughta buy a tripod first. I personally think your lens are pretty good but in case if you are getting an USM IS lens it's not a bad thing either, but still tripod is a necessity though a better lens is a luxury.

You also might want to look at monopods as an option.

check out my album if you want http://picasaweb.google.com/rohits79


Yeah, I'm getting a tripod in a couple of weeks, I just really wanted to get the IS lens sorted for now.

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
No Pictures in a Photography Thread


Just for you













Those are all ones I've posted before though. CBF uploading more to photobucket right now


Posted by Ang ' ela_ie on Nov-11-2007 21:54:

My suggestion to you is to buy you photography stuff from KEH.com - theyre fantastic.


Posted by _Nut_ on Nov-11-2007 22:45:

I am a Canon EOS D60 Owner (a tad bit older) and have a Sigma 28-300mm f/3.5-6.3 (with a 1.5 crop it is equivalent to a 42-450mm)

I have to say that some of the higher end sigma lenses are wonderful. Sharp details, no ghosting and quick use of the AF when needed.

You got a nice lens... but it is like preaching to the choir about the tripod. If you had a lower 1.xx or 2.xx f stop... a tripod would be less necessary. Best of luck.


Posted by Sushipunk on Nov-11-2007 23:24:

quote:
Originally posted by _Nut_
I am a Canon EOS D60 Owner (a tad bit older) and have a Sigma 28-300mm f/3.5-6.3 (with a 1.5 crop it is equivalent to a 42-450mm)

I have to say that some of the higher end sigma lenses are wonderful. Sharp details, no ghosting and quick use of the AF when needed.

You got a nice lens... but it is like preaching to the choir about the tripod. If you had a lower 1.xx or 2.xx f stop... a tripod would be less necessary. Best of luck.


Yeah, the sigma stuff really does have a good name.

I wish I could afford the low f-stop lenses, but I didn't want to spend that much money just now. Happy with what I'm getting though


Posted by Ian on Nov-12-2007 01:15:

funny thing is, i was gonna make a thread about photography but asking advice on shooting techniques, what things to use, macros, light adjusting etc to get certain shots. You know like the cool ones where traffic is moving in a line and it looks mint, how to properly use flash & other features or how to get great laser shots that don't look silly. I'll post some examples if needed of what I currently get if anyone can help. I'm using a sony cybershot 5.1mp jobby with 3x optical zoom & wanna get the most out of it.


Posted by _Nut_ on Nov-12-2007 02:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
funny thing is, i was gonna make a thread about photography but asking advice on shooting techniques, what things to use, macros, light adjusting etc to get certain shots. You know like the cool ones where traffic is moving in a line and it looks mint, how to properly use flash & other features or how to get great laser shots that don't look silly. I'll post some examples if needed of what I currently get if anyone can help. I'm using a sony cybershot 5.1mp jobby with 3x optical zoom & wanna get the most out of it.


Night street shots are longer exposures with a higher (f22+) f-stop. Less light is let in so the image is not a white wash. Ill explain more later.


Posted by leph555 on Nov-12-2007 02:38:

some of my noobie work






Posted by L.E.N. on Nov-12-2007 03:18:

I wish I had a digi SLR...I do have these true fim cams that are great but takes a lot of time to learn




Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Nov-12-2007 03:39:

How did you manage to take a picture of your camera?


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