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Posted by llavoe on Nov-11-2007 18:50:

external sound card choices

From experience, I am looking for some suggestions for a new external sound card for my laptop. I want RCA or 1/4 outs instead of the tiny, quality eating 1/8" out my echo indiog DJ has.

I really only need 4 outs and I am not planning on inputs at all.

Any suggestions would be great, and thanks in advance


Posted by DJ UD on Nov-11-2007 20:01:

I use this card http://secure.newegg.com/Shopping/S...bmit=ChangeItem
works really well for me has 4 outs too.


Posted by llavoe on Nov-11-2007 20:32:

link doesn't work...


Posted by DJ UD on Nov-11-2007 23:56:

My bad its http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...N82E16829121115


Posted by Inertia on Nov-12-2007 01:16:

http://www.presonus.com/firebox.html

best sound quality for under 300 bucks.


Posted by T-Soma on Nov-12-2007 03:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Inertia
http://www.presonus.com/firebox.html

best sound quality for under 300 bucks.


+Very stable & reliable.


Posted by echosystm on Nov-12-2007 03:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Inertia
http://www.presonus.com/firebox.html

best sound quality for under 300 bucks.


Actually... it's not

http://www.gigasonic.com/Echo-Audiofire-4.html

Same price, better ADC/DAC.


Posted by echosystm on Nov-12-2007 03:56:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ UD
My bad its http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...N82E16829121115


This is not external. It's a PCI card with a break out.
Lesson: don't give advice unless you have a clue what you're talking about.


Posted by DJ UD on Nov-12-2007 04:19:

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
This is not external. It's a PCI card with a break out.
Lesson: don't give advice unless you have a clue what you're talking about.


I didn't say he had to buy it and I never said it was an external card, I was just listing it as an option. There was not one bit of advice given in my post just a suggestion, quit trolling.


Posted by echosystm on Nov-12-2007 04:37:

Re: external sound card choices

quote:
Originally posted by DJ UD
I was just listing it as an option.


quote:
Originally posted by llavoe
external sound card.


Pretty bad option.


Posted by DJ UD on Nov-12-2007 05:20:

Re: Re: external sound card choices

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
Pretty bad option.


He didn't specify what he was going to use it for, a laptop or a desktop. So who knows this could have been the thing he was looking for the whole time.


Posted by echosystm on Nov-12-2007 05:49:

Re: Re: Re: external sound card choices

quote:
Originally posted by DJ UD
He didn't specify what he was going to use it for, a laptop or a desktop. So who knows this could have been the thing he was looking for the whole time.


Last time I checked, Echo Indigos didn't work on desktops.


Posted by MERiDiAN5i2 on Nov-12-2007 05:53:

One of my desktops has a PCMCIA slot in the front

Weird, yes, but kinda handy :>


Posted by DJ UD on Nov-12-2007 06:37:

Re: Re: Re: Re: external sound card choices

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
Last time I checked, Echo Indigos didn't work on desktops.


I use a desktop and last time I check I had a PCMCIA wireless network card in my computer how did that happen.
Lesson: don't give advice unless you have a clue what you're talking about.


Posted by echosystm on Nov-12-2007 07:57:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: external sound card choices

quote:
Originally posted by DJ UD
how did that happen.


you bought a pcmcia converter


Posted by T-Soma on Nov-12-2007 08:39:

If I can recall correctly llavoe was looking for an external soundcard with 4 outputs not a demo on how to argue about who pwns better at teh internetz.

Were you after 4 stereo outs or just 4 outs (mono)??

If just 4 mono outs then go for either the Audiofire or the Firebox.
Both are great value.

And unless you have a half decent set studio speakers and some experience you probably wont notice any difference in sound quality between the two.


Posted by ���|E on Nov-12-2007 11:01:

I can't say i've used either the PreSonus or the AudioFire 4, but i do have an AudioFire 12, and it's the best bit of kit i've got, sounds amazing.

That being said, a friend has the PreSonus and swears by it, either way I don't think you can make a bad choice between the two

IMPORTANT

Are you talking about 4 STEREO outputs or 4 MONO outputs, i think you're talking about 4 STEREO outputs, in which case the two real options given to you so far wont work (i don't think).

PreSonus = 6 analog line outputs (3 stereo outputs)
AudioFire 4 = 2 balanced 1/4" analog inputs (2 Stereo outputs)

If you want 4 Stereo outputs, then look at the "AudioFire 8" or a "PreSonus Fire Studio Project"

Each have 8 Analog outputs (4 Stereo channels)

Hopefully that'll give you some more answers/questions


Posted by T-Soma on Nov-12-2007 11:57:

Choosing an audio interface sucks.
Being cheap and wanting the best just doesn't go

The other piece of advice I have to offer is that no-one should ever buy Lexicon audio interfaces.


Posted by skip on Nov-12-2007 13:12:

quote:
Originally posted by T-Soma
Choosing an audio interface sucks.
Being cheap and wanting the best just doesn't go

The other piece of advice I have to offer is that no-one should ever buy Lexicon audio interfaces.



what's wrong with them? i almost bought some model, but ended up getting an alesis io|2 instead, which i have no complaints about so far at least.


Posted by llavoe on Nov-12-2007 20:01:

I am looking for for analog outs. I am trying to steer clear of firewire and looking for a good low-no latency USB card for my laptop.













I have a delta 66 on my desktop and have had it for 7 years on 3 different computers, works great!


Posted by T-Soma on Nov-13-2007 00:22:

I have a Lexicon Omega,
Latency Sucks, The drivers that are from Lexicon are the least stable drivers iv used with an external device (I use Asio4All now), the preamps are crap, the output knob has a crackle only after a few months of use (on mine anyway).
They would be the things I hate about it lol. It was cheap though, so what do you expect?

Since you are saying you want a USB soundcard not firewire I am going to have to say I can help you no more. It is my own belief that the words soundcard and USB should not be used together.


Posted by ���|E on Nov-13-2007 00:42:

quote:
Originally posted by T-Soma
Since you are saying you want a USB soundcard not firewire I am going to have to say I can help you no more. It is my own belief that the words soundcard and USB should not be used together.


Agreed, get a firewire card llavoe, its faster, less packet loss on small and large packets, and better over extended periods of time (or so some studies show).

I can say my experiences with USB and firewire cards have led me to believe that, firewire > USB.

Suck it up and get a firewire interface


Posted by llavoe on Nov-13-2007 02:17:

I saw the m-audio firewire 410 and might get that. Thank you for the info.


Posted by Inertia on Nov-13-2007 06:38:

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
Actually... it's not

http://www.gigasonic.com/Echo-Audiofire-4.html

Same price, better ADC/DAC.


hadn't seen this one. is it relatively new? George Stavropoulos swears by the Firebox and said it was the only one he'd trust under 300 bucks, and while it is a badass piece of gear on his own, his seal of approval means just that little bit much more to me

i have yet to buy my own kit, but was srsly considering the Firebox. you had any hands on experience on the Audiofire?


Posted by echosystm on Nov-13-2007 08:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Inertia
you had any hands on experience on the Audiofire?


I have one

They couple great hardware with awesome drivers. You can't go wrong. They were among the first to have Vista drivers, along with RME and a few other high end firms. They did it MONTHS (~6-8) before M-Audio and most other brands. That says a lot about the company, IMO.

I upgraded from an M-Audio Firewire Audiophile. That was an absolute piece of shit, IMO. I was foolish and didn't do my research. The meters and the knob on the front would constantly drop out. The connection would also just randomly dissapear. This happened on 2 computers.

Fireboxes are good. Very tried and tested. However, they are getting old. The AudioFires are a newer product, AFAIK, so the specs are a bit better if you look into them.


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