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Posted by jerZ07002 on Nov-12-2007 04:07:

Soccer VIolence

Maybe someone can shed some light on this to me. What the hell is all the violence about?? Also, have they ever heard of restrictions, or metal detectors? Moreover, why the hell do they let fans bring flammable shit into the stadium?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6330009.stm


Posted by DJ Eco on Nov-12-2007 04:44:

It's a real shame... If any of those two sides' fans were in the middle of the street without their jerseys on, they'd strike up a conversation about how the North is screwing them (they're from Sicily, and most Southerners have a huge disdain for the North and the government, and likewise/vice-versa).... Yet, when they have their jerseys on, it's a whole other story... It's like a Devils vs. Rangers but 100 times worse... As far as the flammable shit is concerned, those "fumogini" (smoke bombs) are snuck in, since security checks are very minimal, especially in the South... So a usual Italian game in the South goes on with like 5 or 6 of those things exploding per-game, nothing really out of the ordinary...


Posted by jerZ07002 on Nov-12-2007 04:46:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Eco
It's a real shame... If any of those two sides' fans were in the middle of the street without their jerseys on, they'd strike up a conversation about how the North is screwing them (they're from Sicily, and most Southerners have a huge disdain for the North and the government, and likewise/vice-versa).... Yet, when they have their jerseys on, it's a whole other story... It's like a Devils vs. Rangers but 100 times worse... As far as the flammable shit is concerned, those "fumogini" (smoke bombs) are snuck in, since security checks are very minimal, especially in the South... So a usual Italian game in the South goes on with like 5 or 6 of those things exploding per-game, nothing really out of the ordinary...


but yet it appears that's the problem. the solution is easier than they think, be a little more intrusive.


Posted by DJ Eco on Nov-12-2007 04:54:

Yeah pretty much... About four years ago, I went to see Bologna vs. Roma... My dad was a Bologna fan because Roberto Baggio was playing there, and my dad's a player-fan, not a team-fan, he followed him onto every team he's ever played on... So we were in Roma watching the game, and basically, we didn't let my dad wear the jersey OR scream when/if Bologna scored... It was really scary, there were fights, there were those exploding things, there were scuffles even right in front of us... That being said, it was one of the most amazing experiences of my life, but I couldn't see myself going or bringing my family to something like that every week, it really is a badass's sport to go watch, sometimes (depends on the teams playing)...


Posted by jerZ07002 on Nov-12-2007 04:56:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Eco
Yeah pretty much... About four years ago, I went to see Bologna vs. Roma... My dad was a Bologna fan because Roberto Baggio was playing there, and my dad's a player-fan, not a team-fan, he followed him onto every team he's ever played on... So we were in Roma watching the game, and basically, we didn't let my dad wear the jersey OR scream when/if Bologna scored... It was really scary, there were fights, there were those exploding things, there were scuffles even right in front of us... That being said, it was one of the most amazing experiences of my life, but I couldn't see myself going or bringing my family to something like that every week, it really is a badass's sport to go watch, sometimes (depends on the teams playing)...


and europeans say americans are violent. at least americans kill other people for a reason....to take their money.


Posted by steven-neil on Nov-12-2007 05:07:

quote:
Originally posted by jerZ07002
and europeans say americans are violent. at least americans kill other people for a reason....to take their money.


Quite the opposite...We think Americans are pussies...And another thing it's called FOOTBALL....

I tried to bring Hooligan mentality to Yankee Stadium in 04...


Posted by jerZ07002 on Nov-12-2007 05:20:

quote:
Originally posted by steven-neil
Quite the opposite...We think Americans are pussies...And another thing it's called FOOTBALL....

I tried to bring Hooligan mentality to Yankee Stadium in 04...


lol....while in europe last summer i met one european with arms bigger than 12 inches. the funniest shit was the fat british kids with skinny arms. i don't even know how that's possible.


Posted by steven-neil on Nov-12-2007 05:24:

quote:
Originally posted by jerZ07002
lol....while in europe last summer i met one european with arms bigger than 12 inches. the funniest shit was the fat british kids with skinny arms. i don't even know how that's possible.



It's a start...I tried to suck you and Marcello into a full on turf war but I failed...I tried to instigate some inter thread thuggery...


Posted by jerZ07002 on Nov-12-2007 05:26:

quote:
Originally posted by steven-neil
It's a start...I tried to suck you and Marcello into a full on turf war but I failed...I tried to instigate some inter thread thuggery...


i knew where you were going, that's why i made the passive aggressive comment about fat british kids.


Posted by steven-neil on Nov-12-2007 05:30:

quote:
Originally posted by jerZ07002
i knew where you were going, that's why i did the passive aggressive comment about fat british kids.


Hahahahahahahhahahahah...I nearly started up a Bono V's Bon Jovi thread but this is perfect.....


Posted by jerZ07002 on Nov-12-2007 05:43:

quote:
Originally posted by steven-neil
Hahahahahahahhahahahah...I nearly started up a Bono V's Bon Jovi thread but this is perfect.....


im from jersey, but i agree about bono.....but isn't bono irish. you should be bad mouthing him.


Posted by steven-neil on Nov-12-2007 06:07:

quote:
Originally posted by jerZ07002
im from jersey, but i agree about bono.....but isn't bono irish. you should be bad mouthing him.



Bono helped me get into a girls knickers (indirectly) when I was a Kid so I gotta love the dude for that alone...

Bon Jovi however got me no where...When the dude was in his prime I was a Punk rocker...This was a relatively dry period to me as far as birds went,,'cos I refused to compromise my street cred by sporting a mullet...


Posted by steven-neil on Nov-12-2007 06:29:

James..I registered on a Football Hooligan website,,you should do the same...Fucking with the heads of these scum bags is gonna be fun....


Posted by DJ TRACE on Nov-12-2007 06:44:

You should see Polish people and how crazy they are at Football matchs , its fuckin insaine ! Its really stupid from my point of view because the team wins they fight the team loses they fight , it has nothing to do with soccer or watching the game its just THEY LOVE TO FIGHT thats there thing and when some one else has a jersey on of a team from another city they hate its an excuse to go and fuck them up . When I was in poland I went to see Poland play and it was different everybody was as one no fights every one was chanting , having a great time but when it comes to clubs then it a different story poland right now is like what england was in the 70's 80's . Right now in England , germany you can go with your family to a match and enjoy it in poland hooligans / skinheads / regular fans atend matchs nobody brings there children because you just never know what is going to happen . They started to step it up like if they catch you fighting you will be band for life but it dosnt really do much when some one has a scraf or mask over there face .

If you ever watched football Factory and you liked it watch this , if you wanna see how it is in Poland . This video is cool it shows poland and the dude who played in football factory hosts it check it out .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax6tL3sLDeA Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aWXkoHxDZo Part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSud1hg7WsA Part 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCPEpcBKkIU Part 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-pExZCu-RU Part 5

Thats the Football Sence in Poland .


Posted by steven-neil on Nov-12-2007 06:57:

^^^^^^^ True,,we used to be the worst and now it's as safe as going to a baseball game...


Posted by DJ TRACE on Nov-12-2007 07:08:

quote:
Originally posted by steven-neil
^^^^^^^ True,,we used to be the worst and now it's as safe as going to a baseball game...


Steven ever since I was alittle kid I have been watching Chelsea matchs , one of my dreams right now is to fly to london and go to a Premier League Match espically a Chelsea match . The atmosphere is amazing from what I saw on Tv and from what I heard . My dads friend went to a barcalona match in spain and a Liverpool match in england , in Barcalona there was about 50,000 more people , my dads friend said the atmosphere at the Liverpool game that had less people was 100 times more amazing , every one singing , chanting none stop he said he had an amazing time . I watch the Premier League every weekend I Love it , the Best League in the world hands down , the action the goals the plays no league in the world can beat . I cant watch a fuckin Italian league match because it just makes me fall asleep such boring football on the other hand when im watching a premier league match I cant get my eyes off the Tv nonestop running nonestop action ! Chelsea had a draw @ home with everton this weekend I was pissed

Fox soccer channel every saturday morning I also watch games online for free I got this cool program


Posted by jerZ07002 on Nov-12-2007 14:46:

quote:
Originally posted by steven-neil
James..I registered on a Football Hooligan website,,you should do the same...Fucking with the heads of these scum bags is gonna be fun....

point me in the proper direction.


Posted by southbound24 on Nov-12-2007 15:04:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ TRACE
Steven ever since I was alittle kid I have been watching Chelsea matchs , one of my dreams right now is to fly to london and go to a Premier League Match espically a Chelsea match . The atmosphere is amazing from what I saw on Tv and from what I heard . My dads friend went to a barcalona match in spain and a Liverpool match in england , in Barcalona there was about 50,000 more people , my dads friend said the atmosphere at the Liverpool game that had less people was 100 times more amazing , every one singing , chanting none stop he said he had an amazing time . I watch the Premier League every weekend I Love it , the Best League in the world hands down , the action the goals the plays no league in the world can beat . I cant watch a fuckin Italian league match because it just makes me fall asleep such boring football on the other hand when im watching a premier league match I cant get my eyes off the Tv nonestop running nonestop action ! Chelsea had a draw @ home with everton this weekend I was pissed

Fox soccer channel every saturday morning I also watch

games online for free I got this cool program



I thought i was the only american whatching Fox soccer, I like Liverpool cause they sing the best, thats how this American chooses his favorite etam, who ver cheers the best I root for, so Liverpool it is, plus they play that hardnosed style
I think Italian and Greek soccer might bebetter but the TV dont show the crowds burning flares and killing each other so its not fun to whatch, occasionly after a goal they will show the crowd rushing down to the fron, its the funniest thing ever.
The Bleachers used to be like taht when i had season tickets, but now with the suit and ties in there and no alcohol, its clmed down alot,with that being said Yankee Stadium is still the best venue to expereince violence in baseball, yes worse than the sox, and pHILLY fans are animals, but we dontequate to soccer becuase those fans come with political or racial agendas at times.


Posted by Serial Killer on Nov-12-2007 17:00:

Soccer VIolence

quote:
Originally posted by DJ TRACE
ever since I was alittle kid I have been watching Chelsea matchs.


That must have been so sad and depressing for you as a kid

I HATE Chelsea. biggest bunch of unstable crybabies. Manchester United is the best team in the world.

quote:
Chelsea had a draw @ home with everton this weekend I was pissed


yes they did. and did u see the goal that Everton scored. a fucking bicycle kick by Cahil. he must have been on top of the world scoring that against Chelsea

quote:
Fox soccer channel every saturday morning


i agree 10000000%. whenever i have saturdays off from work its either Fox Soccer Channel and i also have Gol TV. they got Spanish and German Leagues.


Posted by CooLKiD on Nov-12-2007 17:44:

quote:
"The first shot I fired in the air and the second went off as I was running . What a fool. Now I know what happened, I am devastated."




so between this and the shootings at the Carl Cox event, EDM is getting pretty gangsta


Posted by StrobeLifeNYC on Nov-12-2007 18:29:

By the way, this article was from FEBRUARY 2007.... The incident you were probably looking for (because of the game cancellations this weekend) is a different article... A cop stopped a group of kids at a rest stop coming from the game, and his gun "accidentally" went off and shot a fan in the neck, so a few games were cancelled because of the riot they thought would ensue...


Posted by CooLKiD on Nov-12-2007 18:45:

I thought it was the same article

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7090170.stm


Posted by StrobeLifeNYC on Nov-12-2007 18:56:

Yeah^^ That's this weekend's story, but the original post had this one (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6330009.stm) which made me assume they were related, but then I remembered that h appened earlier this year...


Posted by steven-neil on Nov-12-2007 19:04:

quote:
Originally posted by jerZ07002
point me in the proper direction.


Chelsea Headhunters/Combat 18.....Blood and Honour....

These people are fucking right wing,,raccist violent scumbags..This is not for people that are the slightest bit sensitive...The subject of this thread is Football Violence,,remember that....


Posted by jerZ07002 on Nov-12-2007 19:30:

quote:
Originally posted by StrobeLifeNYC
By the way, this article was from FEBRUARY 2007.... The incident you were probably looking for (because of the game cancellations this weekend) is a different article... A cop stopped a group of kids at a rest stop coming from the game, and his gun "accidentally" went off and shot a fan in the neck, so a few games were cancelled because of the riot they thought would ensue...


it must have linked up from this weekends story. i was actually referring to the riots in rome, but i did intend on linking the article that was posted.


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