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Posted by Jarvmeister on Nov-16-2007 23:26:

I just illegaly downloaded a track.... your views?

I saw it on beatport, it was territory restricted.

I went to Juno, Audiojelly etc etc. and it wasn't available.

So I googled it to see if I might possibly be able to find a store that sold it. I was crying out to pay for this tune. But alas, I found nowhere.

But I did find a place that was showing a link to a rapidshare page offering it for free.

My dilema: do I wait for an undisclosed amount of further time for this track to be made available in my country (I've been trying to buy it, on and off, for about 2 months now), or do I just say "Fuck it - I've tried my hardest to pay but the bastards want to make it difficult for me so I'll just 'steal' it."

I think you all can guess what I did.

What are your views on this?


Posted by nerdgrl416 on Nov-16-2007 23:48:

If I can't buy the song, I'll go download it elsewhere.
Once the song becomes available in your country then go purchase it. That's what I've been doing.


Posted by miamitranceman on Nov-16-2007 23:52:

It is what it is.


Posted by idoru on Nov-17-2007 00:43:

If you're unable to purchase something that is for sale (mostly due to exactly what you described), then I'm not going to look down on you for downloading it. The only problem occurs when you spin it out, but if you just play it in your bedroom then no, you're not an asshole.


Posted by Clovis on Nov-17-2007 00:43:

I'm gonna try and email labels directly now and ask for a copy explaining that I want to pay for it...


Posted by nerdgrl416 on Nov-17-2007 00:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
I'm gonna try and email labels directly now and ask for a copy explaining that I want to pay for it...


that's a good idea.

Let us know if you have any success with that route.


Posted by leph555 on Nov-17-2007 01:01:

share plz


watch you end up getting sued after you contact the label


Posted by Clovis on Nov-17-2007 01:03:

quote:
Originally posted by nerdgrl416
that's a good idea.

Let us know if you have any success with that route.



Will do, I just have to remember which territory restricted tracks I wanted to buy...


Also, how the fuck could I get sued for asking to buy a track?


Posted by T-Soma on Nov-17-2007 02:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
I'm gonna try and email labels directly now and ask for a copy explaining that I want to pay for it...


Records labels don't choose not to sell it to you. That wouldn't make any sense. The reason for territory restrictions is because a different label has the rights to sell it in your country.
You really think labels would for just no reason what so ever choose to make less money?


It is just annoying to constantly hear people go on about it, I know it is shit, but at least blame the right person.


Posted by echosystm on Nov-17-2007 02:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
Also, how the fuck could I get sued for asking to buy a track?


for asking to buy a track


Posted by Clovis on Nov-17-2007 02:14:

quote:
Originally posted by T-Soma
Records labels don't choose not to sell it to you. That wouldn't make any sense. The reason for territory restrictions is because a different label has the rights to sell it in your country.
You really think labels would for just no reason what so ever choose to make less money?


It is just annoying to constantly hear people go on about it, I know it is shit, but at least blame the right person.



Yes, I know this, but I wonder if they would sell it to me individually if I asked?


And again, how could one get sued for asking to buy a track?


Posted by cmay119 on Nov-17-2007 02:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
Yes, I know this, but I wonder if they would sell it to me individually if I asked?


And again, how could one get sued for asking to buy a track?


They obviously wouldn't sue you for asking to buy 'a' track. However, if you admittedly tell them you illegally downloaded there track and now want to pay for it, they may have a case on there hands.


Posted by ���|E on Nov-17-2007 02:31:

I think he means if you told them you downloaded it illegally because it wasn't available Clovis.

And no, i applaud you, if the record company is dumb enough to have territory restrictions, then too bad for them, they missed out on your money, when it becomes available for you to buy, then buy it, if not, their loss for being too hard to deal with.

I HATE territory restrictions!!!


Posted by T-Soma on Nov-17-2007 02:40:

quote:
Originally posted by ���|E
And no, i applaud you, if the record company is dumb enough to have territory restrictions, then too bad for them, they missed out on your money,


You obviously missed my post.

I guess they might sell individually, but that is still illegal on their behalf.


Posted by JD8180 on Nov-17-2007 03:02:

quote:
Originally posted by T-Soma
I guess they might sell individually, but that is still illegal on their behalf.


ya, imo if it's a big label i doubt they're going to risk making $1 off of you and do something illegal. good luck with it and i agree with most people, i too am willing to pay for all of my tracks, but some are just impossible to get to and it's the only way. besides, the only person that hears any of my mixes is me anyway, so i really don't see how it would hurt anybody


Posted by chris harrington on Nov-17-2007 03:07:

Re: I just illegaly downloaded a track.... your views?

quote:
Originally posted by Jarvmeister
I saw it on beatport, it was territory restricted.


in my opinion that means its ok to download if they wanted me to give them money for the track they would let me...


Posted by mize on Nov-17-2007 03:33:

territory restrictions is in some odd way funny, Its Okay for a Record store to import Wax from territory restrictions label, But Not for costumer ho want to buy it online!

damn!! If the label dont wont my dollers, okey they won't get it!


Posted by JD8180 on Nov-17-2007 03:44:

quote:
Originally posted by mize
territory restrictions is in some odd way funny, Its Okay for a Record store to import Wax from territory restrictions label, But Not for costumer ho want to buy it online!

damn!! If the label dont wont my dollers, okey they won't get it!


i think it has to do with the fact that the wax is a physical item, and they go out of their way to ship it and import it... where as selling online makes it easily available to the entire globe


Posted by T-Soma on Nov-17-2007 04:06:

The fact that people keep complaining about labels territory restrictions is really start to piss me off.

Can anyone explain why a music label would willingly not sell to a particular region!?!?


Posted by Clovis on Nov-17-2007 05:15:

Woah, I meant BEFORE having downloaded it illegaly guys. Like, sending them an email and letting them know that you havn't found any way of purchasing it and really want to.


Posted by the_gamemaster on Nov-17-2007 13:02:

I bet you'd have to be on their promo list for them to send it you. Thats probably the reason theyre not selling it yet.


Posted by DJ Manuel C on Nov-17-2007 17:51:

I had the same issue about a month ago. The first time I heard Umbrella (Sebastian Ingrosso & Steve Angello) @ Space, I fell in looooove with the track. I went CRAZY looking for that track. Beatport had the territory restriction (******S), I then looked in a billion websites to see if I can purchase the download, NOTHING! I did find it, but on vinyl. I dont do vinyl, therefore I was screwed. My last resort was limewire, I found it there @ 320 kbps & the full extended mix for FREE! I produce music msyself, and I do not want to get music for free because I know how much work is put behind making a track, but dam bro if you dont give me the resources to purchase it I have no other choice. I dont blame you @ all for what you did man!


Posted by i got big pants on Nov-17-2007 18:28:

in the end, arent the same people making the $$$ regardless of territory restrictions?


Posted by JD8180 on Nov-17-2007 18:33:

quote:
Originally posted by i got big pants
in the end, arent the same people making the $$$ regardless of territory restrictions?


it's not about who's making money, it's has to do with distribution rights and all that


Posted by Allayla on Nov-17-2007 19:49:

UU ARE GUNNA DIE


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