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Basically shitted on everyone who dared to put Tiesto, Armin, PvD, or Oakenfold next to him or ahead of him. Why am I saying this? I don't think any of the guys I just mentioned will ever craft and album like This Binary Universe. Now I know that the album is question is not for your average trance/dance music fan, but for us who really take music seriously, BT blessed us with one to remember.

He did collaborate with Tiesto and produce an N*Sync track though.

Yes and he produced scores for numerous movies as well, including The Fast and The Furious and Stealth, but that's actually the point. BT is a producer and a fuckin' good one. As a DJ not so much, but on the production tip very few of his fellow contemporaries come even close. You need to be on Prince or Brian Eno level to mess with BT's skill as a producer. The man is just nuts.

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Originally posted by mto BT is a good producer and has good albums. Can't believe you guys voted for tiestor, oakenfield avb etc

Dude... wasn't that a DJ poll?

PRODUCTION, is what we're talking about here. Not DJing.

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Originally posted by mto I don't think any of the guys I just mentioned will ever craft and album like This Binary Universe. Now I know that the album is question is not for your average trance/dance music fan, but for us who really take music seriously, BT blessed us with one to remember.

+1 I could have said this myself.

I don't doubt he's a good producer, ESCM is one of my all time favourite edm CDs I was just saying he's done tracks with the artists you mentioned, and more commercial pop too. I still haven't heard This Binary Universe but I don't know if I'll like it.

Production wise he's always been well ahead of the curve. If I hadn't heard Flaming June and you told me it was made last year I'd believe it, don't think there's any other tracks from 97 I could say that about.

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Originally posted by Jono404 I don't doubt he's a good producer, ESCM is one of my all time favourite edm CDs I was just saying he's done tracks with the artists you mentioned, and more commercial pop too. I still haven't heard This Binary Universe but I don't know if I'll like it. Production wise he's always been well ahead of the curve. If I hadn't heard Flaming June and you told me it was made last year I'd believe it, don't think there's any other tracks from 97 I could say that about.

Yeah that's true, he's one of the more innovative and technologically literate producers out there. Some say he' too technical but I think he's just brilliant. He can manage to make a track both technologically innovative and emotional at the same time.

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Originally posted by Jono404 I don't doubt he's a good producer, ESCM is one of my all time favourite edm CDs I was just saying he's done tracks with the artists you mentioned, and more commercial pop too. I still haven't heard This Binary Universe but I don't know if I'll like it. Production wise he's always been well ahead of the curve. If I hadn't heard Flaming June and you told me it was made last year I'd believe it, don't think there's any other tracks from 97 I could say that about.

ANYTHING that BT did prior to This Binary Universe is not even relevant or worth discussing next to This Binary Universe. Other LPs were mostly prog trance/prog breaks albums and yes there was some thinkinking outside of the box, but nothing similar to TBU. You gotta listen to John Coltrane, Miles Davis, Prince, Frank Zappa, Sigur Ros(all who are not EDM acts) and so much other shit to truly understand TBU and what BT wanted to do with it.

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Originally posted by mto Basically shitted on everyone who dared to put Tiesto, Armin, PvD, or Oakenfold next to him or ahead of him. Why am I saying this? I don't think any of the guys I just mentioned will ever craft and album like This Binary Universe. Now I know that the album is question is not for your average trance/dance music fan, but for us who really take music seriously, BT blessed us with one to remember.

+1 beautiful album.if you liked that you should check out the likes of Mogwai,Sigur Ros,Explosions in the sky. If you haven't yet that is.

Here's an opposing opinion:
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=442549

BT can make music with a barbie synth guitar toy, he just splits the thing open, tunes it and then uses it. and what a mofu........ way of using it!, and if you doubt BT's habilities, why dont you try his set at Two Tribes? There was a power outtage and the guy kept it up with a keyboard till it came back. XD

Also all the love in the world for TBU, and Movement in Still life the UK edition.

I have a bad feeling about this thread

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Originally posted by mto You gotta listen to John Coltrane, Miles Davis, Prince, Frank Zappa, Sigur Ros(all who are not EDM acts) and so much other shit to truly understand TBU and what BT wanted to do with it.

Speak for yourself you fucking deuce. It's a good album but don't try to quell and self corroborate your own intelligence by making out you need some sort of higher plane of perception in order to fully 'get it.' Good fucking grief.

Where is Iskur's post? XD

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Originally posted by mto ANYTHING that BT did prior to This Binary Universe is not even relevant or worth discussing next to This Binary Universe. Other LPs were mostly prog trance/prog breaks albums and yes there was some thinkinking outside of the box, but nothing similar to TBU. You gotta listen to John Coltrane, Miles Davis, Prince, Frank Zappa, Sigur Ros(all who are not EDM acts) and so much other shit to truly understand TBU and what BT wanted to do with it.

You make me want to hate BT.

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike Speak for yourself you fucking deuce. It's a good album but don't try to quell and self corroborate your own intelligence by making out you need some sort of higher plane of perception in order to fully 'get it.' Good fucking grief.

If all you do is listen to club oriented EDM music, you will never truly appreciate TBU. Its a fact. The reason I mentioned the artists that I did, is because you hear jazz elements, rock elements, fusion elements, and electronic elements of all sorts throughout TBU. Classical elements are all over the place as well. The only bad thing about TBU is the fact that you really have to LISTEN to it in order to really enjoy it. Now Mikey, why don't you go and wank-off to your favorite mediocre PvD album?

Bullshit. I've been listening to jazz since I was a little kid, and I started playing it in middle school. But I've never been able to get into BT. He doesn't have any feeling if you ask me.

I know a lot of musicians who are technically amazing, but they have no feeling. And I know people who aren't very technical, but they can make you feel their music.

Zild listen to This Binary Universe, but maybe you already did. If so, then listen to track 2 again which is titled "Dynamic Symmetry." You'll see what I mean if you do listen to it. Also, the way a lot of this stuff is laid out on this album is kinda reminiscent of what Miles did on "On The Corner." The weird sounds of the wah-wah pedal on his trumpet and all the other random sounds are similar to what BT did with short-circuiting the devices he used on this album to create his own random sounds.

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Originally posted by mto If all you do is listen to club oriented EDM music, you will never truly appreciate TBU. Its a fact. The reason I mentioned the artists that I did, is because you hear jazz elements, rock elements, fusion elements, and electronic elements of all sorts throughout TBU. Classical elements are all over the place as well. The only bad thing about TBU is the fact that you really have to LISTEN to it in order to really enjoy it. Now Mikey, why don't you go and wank-off to your favorite mediocre PvD album?

Okay mate. And you be sure to crack on with the self-deluding grandeurs of your superior taste. Us lesser minions will just sit here and struggle to just about comprehend less intelligent albums.

What a fucking bellend and what a crock of shit.

This thread reeks of pretentiousness. Someone needs a shower.

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Originally posted by mto Zild listen to This Binary Universe, but maybe you already did. If so, then listen to track 2 again which is titled "Dynamic Symmetry." You'll see what I mean if you do listen to it. Also, the way a lot of this stuff is laid out on this album is kinda reminiscent of what Miles did on "On The Corner." The weird sounds of the wah-wah pedal on his trumpet and all the other random sounds are similar to what BT did with short-circuiting the devices he used on this album to create his own random sounds.

I know what you're talking about but I don't feel it. I guess it is like ballet dancing. I'm sure ballet is very technical and you have to be a very good dancer, but to me it is devoid of feeling.

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Originally posted by mto If all you do is listen to club oriented EDM music, you will never truly appreciate TBU. Its a fact. The reason I mentioned the artists that I did, is because you hear jazz elements, rock elements, fusion elements, and electronic elements of all sorts throughout TBU. Classical elements are all over the place as well. The only bad thing about TBU is the fact that you really have to LISTEN to it in order to really enjoy it. Now Mikey, why don't you go and wank-off to your favorite mediocre PvD album?

Bloody hell. I love BT and TBU and you've managed to annoy the hell out of me. You couldn't sound like more of a wanker if you tried.

Pretentiousness? Not at all. I dig the album and that's why I felt it was important to talk about it. Mikey, there's nothing "leet" about this thread at all. If you didn't come off like a jerk-off in your initial post, I wouldn't have made the PvD statement. Everyone deserves to listen to whatever they like. My initial post wasn't a pompous post either, I simply believe BT is just above all the people I mentioned when it comes to production.

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Originally posted by mto The only bad thing about TBU is the fact that you really have to LISTEN to it in order to really enjoy it.

Is that a bad thing? Good music is meant to be listened to.

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