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Posted by mr. poopyhead on Apr-29-2002 08:05:

remixes that sound nothing like the original.... why???

for example...

blank & jones - desire (4 strings remix): sounds NOTHING like the original, but its a MASTERPIECE. the kind of song that causes tearing on occasion. why didn't 4 strings just release it as their own song??

dj tiesto - sparkles (transa remix): total departure from the original, but it OWNs the original, in my opinion...

probably some other examples... can't think of any right now though.

why do they even bother remixing if they're just gonna come up with a new tune? is it cause they want to use a well known producer's name to promote their tunes? i dunno.... holy shit.... physics exam in 5 hours, haha... better get back to studying, =P.


Posted by Tukan on Apr-29-2002 08:17:

I'd say the worst culprit in my opinion is Accadia - Into The Dawn (James Holden Mix) - The original is a chillout tune with none of the same melodies or even vocals...
I dunno why they do it...maybe if they even use a remotely similar melody or the same hi-hat or something they have to name it as a remix..
Could be the popularity thing too.
I'm thinking that another possibility is that these songs start as simple remixes but the producers gets creative and adds his own touch eventually moulding the songs into something entirely different.

Either way I don't care what it's called as long as its good...


Posted by quddha on Apr-29-2002 09:34:

my guess is that they get hired to remix it, and in the process, they totally alter it. But they still label it as a remix, because they were hired to remix it.

Also, out of respect for the original artist who gave them the basic grounding / inspiration for the new work.


Posted by Renegade on Apr-29-2002 09:43:

Yeah well, you've got to remember that the artists are approached to do remixes, they can't just pick and choose. So, if they get the opportunity to do a remix - and the money is too good to turn down - then they decide they can't do anything with it, they may decide to depart from the original mix entirely. Case in point: Vengayboys - Kiss (Airscape Mix). I'm guessing that they accepted the remix, realised they couldn't do anything with those cheesy vocals so decided to produce a tune from scratch.

Or then there are cheeky gits like Matt Darey who, with his remix of Blockster - Grooveline (you all know the one) just handed them a track he'd already produced.


Posted by Shoes on Apr-29-2002 10:19:

The original Warp Brother's Blast The Speakers sounds totally different to the one they released a few months ago. Why? I prefered the original.


Posted by Prototrance on Apr-29-2002 11:43:

If people are asked to do a remix then they can really go to town with it. There should be some aspects of the original but a remix is about putting some of your own style into the original. A remix really promotes the remixer and nothing else. E.G every track by Schiller always has a Humate remix, and this is always the one that makes it. Also Timo Maas' mix of Dooms night, nothing like the original, but how much promotion did he get of it, loooooads!!


Posted by BeatFreak on Apr-29-2002 16:40:

Another good example of this is Vengaboys - Kiss (Airscape remix). Why even call it a remix?


Posted by tc-fan on Apr-29-2002 17:23:

Mauro Picotto - Lethal Industry...total crap....sounds nothing like tiesto's ,masterpiece


Posted by TranceSeeker on Apr-29-2002 17:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Tukan
I'd say the worst culprit in my opinion is Accadia - Into The Dawn (James Holden Mix) - The original is a chillout tune with none of the same melodies or even vocals...


HAHAHAHAHAAHAHA.......


Posted by vito on Apr-29-2002 18:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Renegade
Or then there are cheeky gits like Matt Darey who, with his remix of Blockster - Grooveline (you all know the one) just handed them a track he'd already produced.



with this i think he did that to get promotion, cus grooveline was a chart success. so with this pumpin trance tune thrown on the release aswell people would get to hear matt dareys tune aswell without specifically buying it


Posted by DJPrototypeX on Apr-29-2002 21:54:

Smiley DJ

quote:
Originally posted by trance[]control-fan
Mauro Picotto - Lethal Industry...total crap....sounds nothing like tiesto's ,masterpiece



stole the werds out of my mouth...lol...but i dont think its crap...but its true it sounds nothin like the original...


like said before...the producers ask people to remix their material...most of the time...the $$$ is good so they do it but dont really like the original so they do an entire different song...lol...i remember readin that Timo Maas - Ubik was suppose to be a remix of somethin but got shot down by the Original artist so Timo jus released it as his own...lol...not sure if its true or not...


Posted by noikeee on Apr-29-2002 22:03:

I don't care about this.. as long as the track is good who cares about it's name?


Posted by KilldaDJ on Apr-29-2002 22:15:

King

ATB's remix of airwave, sounds close to nothing like the original, and the very badly done breakdown @ abt 2min point...


Posted by milos on Apr-29-2002 22:41:

here's one that sounds nothing like the original

DJ Tiesto - Urban Train (Way Out West Remix)

BTW, Way out West is great! if you haven't heard them yet, give them a try.. WoW!!


Posted by mos man on Apr-29-2002 23:42:

Smiley DJ

quote:
Originally posted by _The_Storm_
I don't care about this.. as long as the track is good who cares about it's name?


I agree, why don't you all stop flaming these types of mixes, at least people are taking the time and the effort to do it...


Posted by IronDragon on Apr-30-2002 00:25:

A remix is the umm...remixer's interpretation of the song. Many time the remixer will just choose add their own elements to the original copy of the song, leaving with widely unmodified. Other times the remixer will see something totally different.

To each their own I suppose


Posted by quddha on Apr-30-2002 03:40:

quote:
Originally posted by mos man 2002.
I agree, why don't you all stop flaming these types of mixes, at least people are taking the time and the effort to do it...[/color]


no one was flaming anything, it was a legit question. we all tend to agree that it doesn't matter as long as its good.


Posted by Eu4ea on Apr-30-2002 04:25:

Conductor and Cowboy - Feeling this Way (Solar Stone Remix)



excellent example of a bad tune gone great. I hate the original, but this one has been one of my favorites for months.


Posted by GrimReaper on Apr-30-2002 05:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Eu4ea_18
Conductor and Cowboy - Feeling this Way (Solar Stone Remix)
excellent example of a bad tune gone great. I hate the original, but this one has been one of my favorites for months.

Yes, i agree.. but i wish the Solar Stone dub would only get released..


Posted by laird on May-01-2002 12:11:

Tukan Is Cloth Eared.

Tukan are you seriously suggesting that the James Holden remix of 'Into The Dawn' uses differnt melodies? He quite obviously retains the main melody. Are you sure you're listening to the same track?


Posted by GrimReaper on May-01-2002 12:34:

Re: Tukan Is Cloth Eared.

quote:
Originally posted by laird
Tukan are you seriously suggesting that the James Holden remix of 'Into The Dawn' uses differnt melodies? He quite obviously retains the main melody. Are you sure you're listening to the same track?


Yes, i was wondering this too after Tukan's reply. Holden's mix has the same melody, but the track goes a few steps deeper from the original..


Posted by Dave_Masters on May-01-2002 13:59:

another example

on the run -(PPK mix)

Fuck all like the orginal

+ its bullshit


Posted by Nook on May-01-2002 14:16:

quote:
Originally posted by trance[]control-fan
Mauro Picotto - Lethal Industry...total crap....sounds nothing like tiesto's ,masterpiece


well that's your opinion. i like the picotto remix. why should it be almost exactly the same with the original. maybe some notes here and there, i think with remixes is the artist vision of how this song should sound. how they would make it. picotto was a little different, but his work till now sounds a lot different then tiesto's. so that's it..


Posted by DJPrototypeX on May-01-2002 22:09:

Talking

quote:
Originally posted by Nook


well that's your opinion. i like the picotto remix. why should it be almost exactly the same with the original. maybe some notes here and there, i think with remixes is the artist vision of how this song should sound. how they would make it. picotto was a little different, but his work till now sounds a lot different then tiesto's. so that's it..



as i said before...i dont like Mauros Rmx of Lethal Industry...but u got a point...hehehe...i've thought that way...but iono...still ished he did a slightly better remix...lol...


Posted by dvd on May-02-2002 04:23:

can't forget bt - remember (pvd mix)


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