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Posted by body125z on Nov-23-2007 10:52:

2.5 EURO per track????

wtf im not into buying legal music but just for curiousness clicked on beatport site and discover that breakfast horizon track has 2,5E....
haha only stupid assholes shall give 2,5 for some MB track...
8E for a vinyl is ok but holly shit for an mp3 file..
i m not going make rich ass like beatport owner's and labels fuck off piracy is alive


Posted by bamski on Nov-23-2007 10:55:

Re: 2.5 EURO per track????

quote:
Originally posted by body125z
wtf im not into buying legal music but just for curiousness clicked on beatport site and discover that breakfast horizon track has 2,5E....
haha only stupid assholes shall give 2,5 for some MB track...
8E for a vinyl is ok but holly shit for an mp3 file..
i m not going make rich ass like beatport owner's and labels fuck off piracy is alive


**can't wait to see what happens next**


Posted by body125z on Nov-23-2007 10:57:

exact size Size: 22550017 bytes
and because they pissed me off PM and u get a link of the track in HQ


Posted by rawbound on Nov-23-2007 11:01:

Please learn how to write proper sentences.


Posted by Sushipunk on Nov-23-2007 11:11:

Re: 2.5 EURO per track????

quote:
Originally posted by body125z
wtf im not into buying legal music but just for curiousness clicked on beatport site and discover that breakfast horizon track has 2,5E....
haha only stupid assholes shall give 2,5 for some MB track...
8E for a vinyl is ok but holly shit for an mp3 file..
i m not going make rich ass like beatport owner's and labels fuck off piracy is alive


I bet that even the retarded kids at school called you "special."


Posted by body125z on Nov-23-2007 11:19:

Re: Re: 2.5 EURO per track????

quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk
I bet that even the retarded kids at school called you "special."


retard and special is whoever pays 2,5 for a track


Posted by bamski on Nov-23-2007 11:22:

Re: Re: Re: 2.5 EURO per track????

quote:
Originally posted by body125z
retard and special is whoever pays 2,5 for a track


Search for all post's by user "body125z"

Now THAT is a 2 hit combo of a typical "my mum say's i'm special and all other's just call me retard type of guy.


Posted by Sushipunk on Nov-23-2007 11:58:

Re: Re: Re: Re: 2.5 EURO per track????

quote:
Originally posted by DuBam
Search for all post's by user "body125z"

Now THAT is a 2 hit combo of a typical "my mum say's i'm special and all other's just call me retard type of guy.


Lol, that immediately made me think of:



"My mum says I'm cool"


Posted by bamski on Nov-23-2007 12:03:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 2.5 EURO per track????

quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk
Lol, that immediately made me think of:



"My mum says I'm cool"


The part that made me happy was when i asked him to look at his own post's and he disappeared instantly.


Posted by skip on Nov-23-2007 12:26:

i agree with two things in this thread:
1. 2,50� for an 320 kbps mp3 is way too much
2. body125z acts like a fucking idiot


Posted by bamski on Nov-23-2007 12:28:

quote:
Originally posted by skip
2. body125z acts like a fucking idiot


It's not an act.


Posted by Rinster on Nov-23-2007 12:31:

i would pay 2.50 to give you a fucking throat punch.

now thats not a waste.


Posted by bamski on Nov-23-2007 12:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Rinster
i would pay 2.50 to give you a fucking throat punch.

now thats not a waste.


I'll see your throat-punch and raise you a Colombian neck-tie (it's worth somewhere between 5,000 and 10,000).


Posted by Rinster on Nov-23-2007 12:34:

quote:
Originally posted by DuBam
I'll see your throat-punch and raise you a Colombian neck-tie (it's worth somewhere between 5,000 and 10,000).


it was directed to body125z.. not you.


Posted by noikeee on Nov-23-2007 12:34:

quote:
Originally posted by skip
i agree with two things in this thread:
1. 2,50� for an 320 kbps mp3 is way too much
2. body125z acts like a fucking idiot


yep.


Posted by bamski on Nov-23-2007 12:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Rinster
it was directed to body125z.. not you.


I understood that, therefor i raised because i thought a neck-tie would be even more appropriate for that troll..

edit: sorry if i didn't make any sense


Posted by Rinster on Nov-23-2007 12:40:

quote:
Originally posted by DuBam
edit: sorry if i didn't make any sense


its cool man.


Posted by THE_Chris on Nov-23-2007 15:45:

Yeah �2.50 for an mp3 is silly.

Make it �3.50 with the .wav file and its even worse.

But if the vinyl (say) is �8.00 to buy and has two or three tracks on it, add postage on top of that and Beatport is still cheaper. All I'm personally going to do anyway is rip the vinyl to the computer and put the vinyl on the shelf, so .wav is still better.


Posted by body125z on Nov-23-2007 15:54:

quote:
Originally posted by THE_Chris
Yeah �2.50 for an mp3 is silly.

Make it �3.50 with the .wav file and its even worse.

But if the vinyl (say) is �8.00 to buy and has two or three tracks on it, add postage on top of that and Beatport is still cheaper. All I'm personally going to do anyway is rip the vinyl to the computer and put the vinyl on the shelf, so .wav is still better.


thats a proper reply and yeah man u are right...
for other lame replies i dont give a shit its time stop flaming around here
10 at top 20 useless in real life g(a)uys post shit in every topic...
how lame...


Posted by skip on Nov-23-2007 16:05:

quote:
Originally posted by body125z
10 at top 20 useless in real life g(a)uys post shit in every topic...
how lame...




the irony!


Posted by shaw on Nov-23-2007 16:41:

quote:
Originally posted by body125z
its time stop


THE FINAL?!?!?!


Posted by seneca on Nov-23-2007 17:37:

Re: 2.5 EURO per track????

quote:
Originally posted by body125z
wtf im not into buying legal music but just for curiousness clicked on beatport site and discover that breakfast horizon track has 2,5E....
haha only stupid assholes shall give 2,5 for some MB track...
8E for a vinyl is ok but holly shit for an mp3 file..
i m not going make rich ass like beatport owner's and labels fuck off piracy is alive


It's quite sad that you think people are getting rich over the pricing of tracks.

Lets take the sale of one track and break it down so you have a better idea of where the money goes:

US $2.49 for Track

a retail site may take 40% so $0.99 (keep in mind these site have to pay credit card processing fees, bandwidth for download transfers, etc., etc.)
$2.49
-$0.99
------
$1.50 remaining

Any distributor takes around 15% so $0.22
$1.50
-$0.22
------
$1.28 remaining

The balance then goes to the label to then further break down based on royalty rates agreed upon by the artist, etc. Let's use in this example that the label and artist agreed on a 50%/50% split of royalties

$1.28 / 2 = $0.64 to the artist and label for each track sold.

average sales of digital releases are probably around 1,000 each so $640. It obviously depends on the popularity of each release, etc.

So... maybe you have a different outlook on things after this reply?


Posted by noikeee on Nov-23-2007 17:41:

Re: Re: 2.5 EURO per track????

quote:
Originally posted by seneca
It's quite sad that you think people are getting rich over the pricing of tracks.

Lets take the sale of one track and break it down so you have a better idea of where the money goes:

US $2.49 for Track

a retail site may take 40% so $0.99 (keep in mind these site have to pay credit card processing fees, bandwidth for download transfers, etc., etc.)
$2.49
-$0.99
------
$1.50 remaining

Any distributor takes around 15% so $0.22
$1.50
-$0.22
------
$1.28 remaining

The balance then goes to the label to then further break down based on royalty rates agreed upon by the artist, etc. Let's use in this example that the label and artist agreed on a 50%/50% split of royalties

$1.28 / 2 = $0.64 to the artist and label for each track sold.

average sales of digital releases are probably around 1,000 each so $640. It obviously depends on the popularity of each release, etc.

So... maybe you have a different outlook on things after this reply?


I'm not really into how the industry works in this field, but why would you need a distributor in this case? Isn't a distributor usually who sends the vinyls from the pressing plant to all the record shops? Then why would you still need them for digital releases, can't the label themselves do the work of uploading the tracks to the mp3 shops?


Posted by body125z on Nov-23-2007 17:59:

Re: Re: 2.5 EURO per track????

quote:
Originally posted by seneca
It's quite sad that you think people are getting rich over the pricing of tracks.

Lets take the sale of one track and break it down so you have a better idea of where the money goes:

US $2.49 for Track

a retail site may take 40% so $0.99 (keep in mind these site have to pay credit card processing fees, bandwidth for download transfers, etc., etc.)
$2.49
-$0.99
------
$1.50 remaining

Any distributor takes around 15% so $0.22
$1.50
-$0.22
------
$1.28 remaining

The balance then goes to the label to then further break down based on royalty rates agreed upon by the artist, etc. Let's use in this example that the label and artist agreed on a 50%/50% split of royalties

$1.28 / 2 = $0.64 to the artist and label for each track sold.

average sales of digital releases are probably around 1,000 each so $640. It obviously depends on the popularity of each release, etc.

So... maybe you have a different outlook on things after this reply?


hmm nice analysis man..
by the way i didnt saythat artist got rich...
its obvious from your reply that distributor and label owners earn money doing nothing at all...
despite that 2.5E is quite expensive to keep me avoiding down em illegal.
a logical price of around 0.5 or 1E would be attractive for a good digital release

quote:
Originally posted by noikeee
I'm not really into how the industry works in this field, but why would you need a distributor in this case? Isn't a distributor usually who sends the vinyls from the pressing plant to all the record shops? Then why would you still need them for digital releases, can't the label themselves do the work of uploading the tracks to the mp3 shops?


+1 am wondering about that too!!

and in that case flashover label is ferry corsten's ..
so ferry if u want to earn some more money get your ass in front of a computer and make some tunes like gouryella project!!


Posted by seneca on Nov-23-2007 18:03:

There are quite a few digital distributors out there nowadays. Check out this statement:

quote:
from Beatport
Question
I want to sell my releases on Beatport. How do I do this?

Answer
We think it is very important to be the definitive home of dance music and to accommodate as many new labels and talent as possible. However, at the current time we are not taking on any new label partners. We thank you for your patience as we work to bring on more new labels in the near future.


because there are so many labels and releases now, it's overwhelming. So Beatport will only accept releases now through distribution channels. Also, it would be extremely time consuming and a nightmare to get all the material for your next release to all the retail sites. My distributor send all the releases for my label to over 100 websites. And they do it quickly and accurately! They also promote your releases and try to get them featured on the main pages of retail sites. So for a small fee (15%) distributors do a lot of work for you in the digital realm!


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