does the motif always have to be related ?

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Posted by newtrancer on Nov-25-2007 01:26:

does the motif always have to be related ?

my question is does the motif always have to be taken from the main melody ,like rhythmicly ,or can a motif work that is a bit different rhythmicly but in the same key ,just wondering.

I went online and a lot of songs motifs sound so close to the main melody if anyone has made a track or know of a track that differs a bit from the main melody let me know.

Posted by sterilis on Nov-25-2007 01:34:

mines are usually completely different from the main melody although in the same key.

Posted by sterilis on Nov-25-2007 01:36:

think he means a riff.

Posted by Sanguis Mortuum on Nov-25-2007 01:46:

quote:
Originally posted by palm
what the fukc is motif?

mo�tif /moʊˈtif/
Pronunciation[moh-teef]
�noun
1. a recurring subject, theme, idea, etc., esp. in a literary, artistic, or musical work.

Posted by richg101 on Nov-25-2007 11:48:

just do what you think sounds nice. anything goes in music.

Posted by Sanguis Mortuum on Nov-25-2007 15:07:

quote:
Originally posted by palm
what i call groove maybe?

Possibly, you can call it whatever you want, but everyone else on the planet calls it the 'motif'.

Posted by thecYrus on Nov-25-2007 16:49:

quote:
Originally posted by palm
what the fukc is motif?

it's from yamaha

Posted by piku303 on Nov-26-2007 07:31:

a good example of motif is how on NIN's fragile trent uses a similar melody throughout the album. not exactly the same but the same notes. a motif doesnt have to be tonal though. it can be a cool sample of rythmic section. but a motif isnt looped the entire song. its just pulled in when there is supossed to be a strong point of the song.

Posted by Zild on Nov-26-2007 13:05:

quote:
Originally posted by piku303
a good example of motif is how on NIN's fragile trent uses a similar melody throughout the album. not exactly the same but the same notes. a motif doesnt have to be tonal though. it can be a cool sample of rythmic section. but a motif isnt looped the entire song. its just pulled in when there is supossed to be a strong point of the song.

Yep perfect example of a motif. And to the OP no it doesn't have to be the main melody but make sure you keep it in key. Unless you're specifically going for discordance.