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FIFA World Cup 2010 qualification draw

It's today in Durban, in 1 hour. Draw for the asian, north american/caribbean, european and african zones.

These are the seeds for Europe:

1st seeds:
Italy
Spain
Germany
Czech Republic
France
Portugal
Netherlands
Croatia
Greece

2nd pot:
England
Romania
Scotland
Turkey
Bulgaria
Russia
Poland
Sweden
Israel

3rd pot:
Norway
Ukraine
Serbia
Denmark
Northern Ireland
Ireland
Finland
Switzerland
Belgium

4th pot:
Slovakia
Bosnia
Hungary
Moldova
Wales
Macedonia
Belarus
Lithuania
Cyprus

5th pot:
Georgia
Albania
Slovenia
Latvia
Iceland
Armenia
Austria
Kazakhstan
Azerbaijan

6th pot:
Lichtenstein
Estonia
Malta
Luxembourg
Montenegro
Andorra
Faroe Islands
San Marino

I mostly want us to avoid England ( ) in the 2nd pot, Norway/Serbia/Ukraine/Denmark in the 3rd pot, and hopefully Montenegro on the 6th pot (I believe they're stronger than those mini-nations, and only have a shit ranking because it's their first qualification for anything).

It'll be fun to see where England lands.

I remind that the format is the following: 9 groups are formed (8 groups with 6 teams, 1 group with 5 teams), the first of each group automatically gets qualification for South Africa. The seconds of each group play play-offs against each others for 4 extra spots... except the worse second placed from all groups - this unlucky team will be thrown away.

Results of the draw:

No tough groups imo.
We (Israel) can qualify if we have some luck against Greece and if we will win the Swiss. Second place looks promising.

Group 6 draws England and Croatia again, will be intresting to see what will happend this time. Ukraine are also hot candidates.

Group 1 also looks great, Portugal, Sweden and Denmark will challenge the 2 spots...

in Groups 3 I see Czech and Poland coming through...
Group 4, of course Russia and Germany.
Group 5 will see Spain finishing first and Turkey or Belgium (most likely to be Turkey) qualifing.

In 7 there's France, Romania and maybe Serbia.

In 8, will, Italy for sure. 2nd place, can't really guess...

9th group should see Holland and Scotland doing it without any real problems..

Which one is official? The first post or the second?

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Originally posted by Kapedan Which one is official? The first post or the second?

The first post is the seedings. the second is the group draw.

I like our chances. Czech will be tough to beat though

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Originally posted by Kapedan Which one is official? The first post or the second?

You thought

Lichtenstein
Estonia
Malta
Luxembourg
Montenegro
Andorra
Faroe Islands
San Marino

was one group?

hahaha yes man. i was like, you know i like albanias chance of getting in the world cup. hahah

Hehe, this qualifications will be hot as hell. England again, well, this time we'll let them qualify . Now serious, I believe that England will give its best this time, because they sucked at EURO qualifications... We'll see, long time until than, Austria first

im actually pretty confident about our group. I think we can take on romania and even get a draw out of France but man its gonna be tough for me when we play against them. im such a huge fan of les blues

None of these groups look anything special. England vs. Croatia should be fun to watch again though. And maybe France vs. Serbia.

There doesn't really seem to be a qualification group of death this time around does there? Hmm...England seem to have an easy time and should at the VERY least finish 2nd if they can fend off the Ukraine. But I won't be surprised if they don't qualify given last week's events.

Anyway it doesn't matter. I predict no European team will win the 2010 World Cup since it's in South Africa and will be hot as a mother******. Brazil or Argentina will probably win it.

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 There doesn't really seem to be a qualification group of death this time around does there? Hmm...England seem to have an easy time and should at the VERY least finish 2nd if they can fend off the Ukraine. But I won't be surprised if they don't qualify given last week's events. Anyway it doesn't matter. I predict no European team will win the 2010 World Cup since it's in South Africa and will be hot as a mother******. Brazil or Argentina will probably win it.

The cup is going to be played in the winter there

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Originally posted by noikeee The cup is going to be played in the winter there

Still, its hot.

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Originally posted by noikeee The cup is going to be played in the winter there

it'll still be around 30 Celsius and maybe with humidity as well. It was hot as hell in South Korea and Japan too...any time it's not played in Europe usually the European teams have a hard time. In my opinion the games should be played at night when it's cooler but try telling that to FIFA.

Average looking groups, and I must say there are some underestimated teams there that will cause some big upsets I can just see it. I'd say the most trickiest group would be group 1, so random and mixed and how come Sweden always end up with Denmark?

Italy have a rather bland group which shouldn't provide the sweat of what we just went through although Bulgaria and Montenegro can be threatning.

Also seeing Scotland surpass this campaign, if they almost survived a group with France,Italy and Ukraine they will only be stronger, hungrier and more dangerous than what they already were.

Germany run fairly easy, England in a tuffie and Spain could struggle a little and no doubt Romania will give the Les Bleus a fair crack.

'Till then bring on EURO 08

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Originally posted by fcuk � little and no doubt Romania will give the Les Bleus a fair crack.

doubt it to be honest. France should dominate that group but the real interesting matchup should be us against romania

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Originally posted by RapidFire doubt it to be honest. France should dominate that group but the real interesting matchup should be us against romania

I agree, France isn't good now, as they used to be...
But, there isn't any group of death, so I believe that there shouldn't be suprises like last week. It will be interesting to watch, definitely.

EURO first

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 it'll still be around 30 Celsius and maybe with humidity as well. It was hot as hell in South Korea and Japan too...any time it's not played in Europe usually the European teams have a hard time. In my opinion the games should be played at night when it's cooler but try telling that to FIFA.

LOL we play real football here in Texas in 40 Celsius. If the euro teams can't sack up and deal with the heat they deserve to lose.

That's just like the article someone posted that said how England can't practice tactics and skill because their average wind speed is 15kmph but Italy's average wind speed is 10kmph so that is the reason Italy has more tactics and skill.

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Originally posted by Zild LOL we play real football here in Texas in 40 Celsius.

For starters real football is the type played all around the world with a round ball and 11 players on either side, using your feet. The sport you play is "american football". Which is a fuckin stupid name because only one player on either side actually uses their feet to play the ball.

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Originally posted by Zild If the euro teams can't sack up and deal with the heat they deserve to lose.

American footballers are lucky if they have to run 100 yards during a game and they get plenty of rest in between.

Professional footballers are running upwards of 10km per game with very little rest apart from half time.

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Originally posted by Zild That's just like the article someone posted that said how England can't practice tactics and skill because their average wind speed is 15kmph but Italy's average wind speed is 10kmph so that is the reason Italy has more tactics and skill.

I don't have a fuckin clue what article your reading but i'll gaurantee you wind speed has nothing to do with the tactical ineptitude of england compared to italy - and no one i've ever come across on this continent thinks so either.

it's widely acknowledged that italy, france, spain etc have more technical skills because of the way the young are coached..

You might think that we don't run that much in real football but the reality is that people die every year from running too much in the heat during two a day summer practices.

And what about the cross country kids who run at least 10 miles not 10 km every day in the same weather?

If you're a pro soccer player and you can't run 10km in 40C you deserve to lose.

Here is that article I was talking about. And I agree with you wind speed is a bunch of bullshit. Just like the heat.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/serialisations/article708592.ece

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Originally posted by chesco American footballers are lucky if they have to run 100 yards during a game and they get plenty of rest in between.

while they do get breaks in between plays, the vast majority of players run way more than 100 yards a game (I'd estimate roughly around 300-400 yards on average, and that's being VERY conservative) all while wearing around 10kg of equipment a game


as for the World Cup qualifications, I'll pay more attention to it after the Euros

This draw seems very similar to the qualification groups for Euro 2008. Group 2 looks horrificly weak (sorry Greece). I'm glad Germany is in the same group as Wales, as I can see them play here hopefully but wish Sweden or England was drawn from pot 2 with them. Ah well. When do these matches start? Fall of 2008 or early 2009?

Slav HEAVEN! in group 3. LOL talk about stadium skirmishes and riots. Put all the Eastern European hooligan countries together in one group. Thumbs up from me.

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Originally posted by CraveTheRave This draw seems very similar to the qualification groups for Euro 2008. Group 2 looks horrificly weak (sorry Greece). I'm glad Germany is in the same group as Wales, as I can see them play here hopefully but wish Sweden or England was drawn from pot 2 with them. Ah well. When do these matches start? Fall of 2008 or early 2009?

Fall of 2008.

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