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Posted by wolftickets on Nov-28-2007 19:17:

is it neotrance?

kai tracid's recent comeback releases sound like what some people call "neo trance", ie dark and somewhat minimal(not uber minimal like some other examples i've heard, ie microtrance).hoverver, wiki calls stuff like kyau and albert neotrance, which are completely different sounding.

Posted by d-miurge on Nov-28-2007 19:31:

It's true because it's on wiki.

Posted by sljiva on Nov-28-2007 20:18:

NEO TRANCE
SHIT

BTW that second sample is Kai's new tune

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Nov-28-2007 20:21:

Is that the latest buzzword to use then?

Posted by sljiva on Nov-28-2007 20:23:

Shit? No, it's been around for years...

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Nov-28-2007 20:29:

quote:
Originally posted by sljiva
Shit? No, it's been around for years...

Oh?

Oh...

I see what you did there.

Posted by sljiva on Nov-28-2007 20:31:

Seriously now, it probably is, since this is like the 15th thread in which you ask the same question. Just let it go man. Buzzwords won't disappear just because you don't like them

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Nov-28-2007 20:34:

Uhm... okay...

Posted by Gauss on Nov-28-2007 20:47:

quote:
Originally posted by sljiva
SHIT

BTW that second sample is Kai's new tune

That really does sound like shit.

Posted by DOOMBOT on Nov-28-2007 21:16:

I prefer neontrance, Tigerskin - Neontrance, that is.

Posted by stevieboy32808 on Nov-28-2007 21:46:

quote:
Originally posted by sljiva
Seriously now, it probably is, since this is like the 15th thread in which you ask the same question. Just let it go man. Buzzwords won't disappear just because you don't like them

quote:
Originally posted by sljiva
NEO TRANCE

Neo trance is nothing more than a revival of the old classic/proper trance sound for the modern age. That's why it's pointless to use the neo- when you can simply call it.....trance. Your sample is a good example of trance music.

The topic was discussed here:
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...93&forumid=1&s=

Posted by HaeD on Nov-28-2007 22:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Oh?

Oh...

I see what you did there.

lol

Posted by sljiva on Nov-28-2007 22:23:

quote:
Originally posted by stevieboy32808
Neo trance is nothing more than a revival of the old classic/proper trance sound for the modern age. That's why it's pointless to use the neo- when you can simply call it.....trance.

Well, then it's also pointless to use the term trance when you can simply call it electronic music. And that can be pointless too, so we could just use the term music.

Neo trance term serves its purpose, and I don't understand all that resistance against it

Posted by wolftickets on Nov-28-2007 22:44:

IMO microhouse/microtrance(extremely minimal with lot's of IDM style clicks and crunches) is different from neo/revival trance. what a misnomer with people calling microhouse neo-trance.

Posted by julien2 on Nov-28-2007 22:53:

quote:
Originally posted by sljiva
NEO TRANCE
SHIT

BTW that second sample is Kai's new tune

+1

Posted by julien2 on Nov-28-2007 22:54:

quote:
Originally posted by sljiva

Neo trance term serves its purpose, and I don't understand all that resistance against it

+1

Posted by julien2 on Nov-28-2007 22:55:

oh, and lol for my wall of text in the thread linked here...omg time to waste

Posted by julien2 on Nov-28-2007 22:57:

quote:
Originally posted by wolftickets
IMO microhouse/microtrance(extremely minimal with lot's of IDM style clicks and crunches) is different from neo/revival trance. what a misnomer with people calling microhouse neo-trance.

In electronic music, when we use the prefix "micro", it is usually to refer to the actual lenght of samples used.

For example, in microhouse (which has then pretty much merged with minimal techno), samples of sound are very concise and short, and often used in place of actual instrumentation, to replace, for example, kicks, snares, hats, whatever.

a good example of that would be the Akufen album "My way"

Posted by ibz on Nov-28-2007 23:19:

Aye, threads have been made on this topic. Including one by me ^____^

Posted by wolftickets on Dec-13-2007 02:33:

Several recent tracks like Airbase - Rest in Peace, although often having modern "electro" beats, have old-skool sounding synth instruments, ie pre-supersaw. This is what Kyau and Albert(which Wiki calls neo trance) sound like. Melodic neotrance? Neo-melodic trance? Again not to be confused with "microtrance". Another "nu skool (melodic) trance" example is Art of Trance - Persia(2006).
Kai Tracid and Hardfloor's comeback productions = Neo acid trance?(again not microtrance)
Artists like Steve Bug have been producing microhouse/microtrance for several years, so it sure ain't neo.

Posted by josh rising on Dec-13-2007 02:39:

that kai tracid track isn't as awful as i thought it would be. it's a good concept, i just don't know if it was executed that way. whatever, at least it's not mcprog.

i personally thought this "neotrance" was more along the lines of like... oxia - domino, daniela stickroth - chest in the attic, santos - somatique, etc... or am i wrong and is that just like "melodic minimal"?

forgive my ignorance. i listen to florida breaks.

Posted by SMC on Dec-13-2007 02:45:

quote:
Originally posted by wolftickets
Several recent tracks like Airbase - Rest in Peace, although often having modern "electro" beats, have old-skool sounding synth instruments, ie pre-supersaw. This is what Kyau and Albert(which Wiki calls neo trance) sound like. Melodic neotrance? Neo-melodic trance? Again not to be confused with "microtrance". Another "nu skool (melodic) trance" example is Art of Trance - Persia(2006).
Kai Tracid and Hardfloor's comeback productions = Neo acid trance?(again not microtrance)
Artists like Steve Bug have been producing microhouse/microtrance for several years, so it sure ain't neo.

Neo fucking gibberish.

Posted by Stanza on Dec-13-2007 04:16:

Acid trance pisses all over this neo trance rubbish.

ACEEED !!