Any of you guys Windows Vista guru's?

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Posted by Sushipunk on Nov-30-2007 05:43:

Any of you guys Windows Vista guru's?

So, we got a new Laptop, with Vista Home Premium as the OS.

First mistake

It connects to the internet just fine, but won't see either of the computers on the LAN (both desktops are running XP).

Neither of us have any experience with Vista at all. Is there some ninja trick to make this all work for us?

Any help would be greatly appreciated

Posted by Omega_M on Nov-30-2007 05:46:

So now your computer geek girlfriend is also seeking help from t3h cor ?

Posted by Sushipunk on Nov-30-2007 05:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_M
So now your computer geek girlfriend is also seeking help from t3h cor ?

As I said, neither of us have any experience with Vista.

So yes! COR, please help!

Posted by Zeiter on Nov-30-2007 05:59:

2 options:

1. change all your computers to mac.
2. downgrade ur laptop to windows xp
3. GOOGLE

Posted by SLR722 on Nov-30-2007 06:04:

This was a bitch to figure out for me too.

You have to make sure the vista machine has the same workgroup name as the xp machines. On the vista machine, hit start, right-click computer, properties. Where it lists your computer info, it will show the workgroup, in that section there is a link to change it. From there you can change it to the same workgroup as your XP machines.

Posted by Sushipunk on Nov-30-2007 06:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Zeiter
2 options:

1. change all your computers to mac.
2. downgrade ur laptop to windows xp
3. GOOGLE

1. No.

2. Is that really considered a downgrade?

3. Been hammering Google for half the day, and still are. No harm in posting a thread though - There are some very bright tech folks on here, and you never know when somebody might have the answer(s), right?

Posted by echosystm on Nov-30-2007 06:06:

1. Make sure they're all set to the same workgroup first.
2. Make sure it/others don't have firewalls that are blocking the computer browser service.

If you ping from one to the other, that should let you know if it is a firewall problem or not. If at some point you can see the other computers, but can't access them, the easiest way is to just set it up so that all computers have the same accounts/passwords.

Posted by Sushipunk on Nov-30-2007 06:09:

quote:
Originally posted by SLR722
This was a bitch to figure out for me too.

You have to make sure the vista machine has the same workgroup name as the xp machines. On the vista machine, hit start, right-click computer, properties. Where it lists your computer info, it will show the workgroup, in that section there is a link to change it. From there you can change it to the same workgroup as your XP machines.

Yeah, we tried that

We have:

- Changed the workgroup to be the same as the XP computers
- Installed the LLTD protocol on the Vista comp.
- Enabled net bios over TCP/IP
- Upgraded to TCP/IP version 6
- Many re-boots
- disabled LAN firewalls

...

Posted by nchs09 on Nov-30-2007 06:11:

i have vista and it is still a mystery to me.. i guess it just takes time to get used to it.

Posted by Sushipunk on Nov-30-2007 06:11:

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
1. Make sure they're all set to the same workgroup first.
2. Make sure it/others don't have firewalls that are blocking the computer browser service.

If you ping from one to the other, that should let you know if it is a firewall problem or not. If at some point you can see the other computers, but can't access them, the easiest way is to just set it up so that all computers have the same accounts/passwords.

Can't even see them, and the XP computers can't see the laptop either.

Ping timed out.

Posted by echosystm on Nov-30-2007 06:15:

explain how they are all connected. are they all going into a single switch? wireless??

Posted by Sushipunk on Nov-30-2007 06:23:

Echosystem - We fucked around with the firewall some more. It's working!

Actually, it was the stupid fucking Norton software that the computer place installed.

Edit: Lol, I love your avatar

Posted by tubularbills on Nov-30-2007 06:45:

fucking a, first your laptop dies, now your internet don't work?

lol

Posted by Sushipunk on Nov-30-2007 06:48:

quote:
Originally posted by tubularbills
fucking a, first your laptop dies, now your internet don't work?

lol

Internets are working fine. How else would I be posting?

The problem was making the new laptop work on our network, with Vista.

Posted by tubularbills on Nov-30-2007 06:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk
Internets are working fine. How else would I be posting?

The problem was making the new laptop work on our network, with Vista.

w/e, stupid internets

Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Nov-30-2007 14:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Zeiter
2 options:

1. change all your computers to mac.
2. downgrade ur laptop to windows xp
3. GOOGLE

What a fucking moronic post. Incredibly helpful.

Idiot.

Posted by leph555 on Nov-30-2007 14:18:

i liked the mac option the best!

Posted by _Nut_ on Nov-30-2007 14:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Sushipunk
Echosystem - We fucked around with the firewall some more. It's working!

Actually, it was the stupid fucking Norton software that the computer place installed.

Edit: Lol, I love your avatar

Before reading this my thought was a permission issue. Norton is anal about denial IP's that are out of range. Did you just go into the deny/accept list and add the specific IP that each computer is at

(192.168.0.101 or 192.168.0.104 etc)?

That is all I did to get Vista Ultimate (I assume home is the same) to see a networked XP computer

Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Nov-30-2007 14:24:

Fuck that - Get rid altogether, the resource hogging piece of shit - Get NOD32, and if you must have a software firewall, BlackICE as well.

Posted by leph555 on Nov-30-2007 14:26:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
Fuck that - Get rid altogether, the resource hogging piece of shit - Get NOD32, and if you must have a software firewall, BlackICE as well.

Nod32 is a good one, never heard of blackice. You also might want to try Kaspersky

Posted by Igaryok on Nov-30-2007 15:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Zeiter
2 options:

1. change all your computers to mac.
2. downgrade ur laptop to windows xp
3. GOOGLE

LOL Mac.

Posted by Cloudburst on Nov-30-2007 15:46:

I installed Vista on my new computer and everything just worked. It found the 2 other XP computers right away. I'm not even in the same workgroup.

Posted by Fibonacci on Dec-02-2007 01:29:

Vista sucks, I use it only because I am too lazy to reinstall XP - it involves me backing up all my crap. Hardware firewalls are apparently all the rave, but I use zone alarm. I know people are going to blast me because its a resource hog, I don't think it's anywhere near as bad as norton or mcaffee. Plus it's got a virus scanner, pop up blocker, firewall, etc, all in one nice little program that runs in the background.

Posted by noikeee on Dec-02-2007 03:10:

i'm graduating next summer as a software engineer and i haven't tried vista even once yet.

i think that single fact might qualify me as incompetent.

Posted by Turbonium on Dec-02-2007 03:54:

Make sure network discovery is turned on.