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Posted by Reno on Nov-30-2007 11:21:

2 lcd's or a wide screen?

I'm trying to work out whether I should purchase 2 x 17" ultrasharp monitors max res 1280 x 800 each or go for a wide screen with minimum 1600x? res.

I use Reason so my thinking behind this is split the sequencer and rack windows. But then maybe I could do that with a wide screen as well? I've worked on 2 monitors at work before and it is great. Never had a wide screen though.

Suggestions?


Posted by Storyteller on Nov-30-2007 11:25:

Re: 2 lcd's or a wide screen?

quote:
Originally posted by Reno
2 x 17" ultrasharp monitors max res 1280 x 800 each or go for a wide screen with minimum 1600x? res.

I use Reason so my thinking behind this is split the sequencer and rack windows. But then maybe I could do that with a wide screen as well? I've worked on 2 monitors at work before and it is great. Never had a wide screen though.

Suggestions?


a wide screen with a 1600 pixels resolution in the width should do . 1 screen which fits both the windows of reason. Seems the most practical, and probaby the most efficient as well.


Posted by DeZmA on Nov-30-2007 11:30:

I'd say buy 2 normal 19" if you have the space..


Posted by Storyteller on Nov-30-2007 11:36:

true
2x19" widescreen might be a bit cheaper and is very nice as well, allthough 19" normal size would have a bit more screen space (pixels)

2x22" widescreen here, and loving it.


Posted by Reno on Nov-30-2007 11:46:

I haven't found a std 19" that goes into higher res than 1280 x 800. That's what I have now and the res is too low for that size. Although it is a crap monitor but icons too big etc.

2 x widescreens I guess would be good but more expensive and lots of space required. I check out the difference is prices.

cheers


Posted by System101 on Nov-30-2007 14:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Reno
I haven't found a std 19" that goes into higher res than 1280 x 800. That's what I have now and the res is too low for that size. Although it is a crap monitor but icons too big etc.

2 x widescreens I guess would be good but more expensive and lots of space required. I check out the difference is prices.

cheers


i've got 2 widescreen 19", 1440 x 900 each. its good


Posted by farris on Nov-30-2007 15:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Storyteller
true
2x19" widescreen might be a bit cheaper and is very nice as well, allthough 19" normal size would have a bit more screen space (pixels)

2x22" widescreen here, and loving it.

Can you post some screenies here or in the 'Home studio pictures' thread.
Just want to see how it'll look and how much space it'll take on a desk vs. how many extra screen estate it will give.
Have a 19" CRT and loving it, but miss some extra space.
Difficult to find the same one at the moment, so might as well go with a new widescreen or perhaps even two.

- farris


Posted by Reno on Nov-30-2007 16:10:

I just had a look and a 19" wide screen is the same price as the 17" std so I guess makes sense to go 2 x 19".

Hey anyone know if you can get a DUI adaptor for a drive-in? Just had a crazy thought!!


Posted by Storyteller on Nov-30-2007 16:44:

quote:
Originally posted by farris
Can you post some screenies here or in the 'Home studio pictures' thread.
Just want to see how it'll look and how much space it'll take on a desk vs. how many extra screen estate it will give.
Have a 19" CRT and loving it, but miss some extra space.
Difficult to find the same one at the moment, so might as well go with a new widescreen or perhaps even two.

- farris


I had the same problem having a 19" which took up the entire desk. Then I saw this great deal at the Office Centre and I jumped on it and got 2 of these 22" for little more than 430Euro . Haven't seen these screens as cheap as that anywhere thus far. And I bought em half a year ago .

It's about 80cm wide in total I think (just a guess)


Posted by farris on Nov-30-2007 17:07:

Thanks for the picture. I think I'll be shopping for two new widescreens. Although I might go for something like those 20" Samsung 206BW.
Was never a big fan of these new screens as I still think CRT looks better. But eventually one has to choose between space, screen estate and quality.
I have a second 19" CRT next to the main one which is used rarely for an old pc.
Together they take up about 90cm. Seeing that picture it all looks more spacey than two 19" CRT and even leave me with some extra room.
If my eyes don't fool me those tiny letters on them say Acer?
For 22" they sure don't look that big which is great.
Again, thanks for the pic!

- farris


Posted by Storyteller on Nov-30-2007 18:12:

Don't buy acer though if colour quality is an issue. The colours and inkijkhoek() are quite a hassle with these. But I don't mind since I rarely do any graphic work.


Posted by DeZmA on Dec-01-2007 00:22:

There's another reason not to go above 19", if you like games you'll be better off with a 19". They are more than big enough any way .


Posted by SebG on Dec-01-2007 00:26:

Go with 2 LCD's

I have 2 17" LCD and i split up reason like you just said. I have the track on the left and devices on the right


Posted by SebG on Dec-01-2007 00:35:

Mine


Posted by 3F05Q on Dec-01-2007 00:43:

If you think reason might be the only thing you'll be using for quite a while, then a single larger widescreen might be nice. If you think you'll use another program later and will want to rewire, then go with dual.

I started with a single Samsung 225BW (22" widescreen) and was very happy with reason on it. Then I inherited an Acer 19" (Non-widescreen) and have been very happy with having two monitors. I run Live's sequencer in the widescreen, and VSTs to the right in the Acer.
If you're going to want to rewire later, then two widescreens would fit the bill wonderfully.

The Samsung has been a great monitor, no problems at all! Contrast ratio is a bit bothersome for movies, as it just doesn't get dark enough. Image is quite sharp and refresh seems high. No complaints here, really

Acer, on the other hand.... well... I'm on my second one as the first just quit out. On the second one a pixel is stuck red, and another is out. I don't know if that's still common and I'm just lucking out with the Samsung, or if in fact their quality is a bit lower. ?

Anyway, good luck with whatever you decide on!


Posted by echosystm on Dec-01-2007 02:09:

samsung make the best lcd PANELS (as in the actual LCD panel inside the monitor). acer, benq, hp, etc. usually use chimei panels or some other shit brand.


Posted by 3F05Q on Dec-01-2007 05:09:

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
samsung make the best lcd PANELS (as in the actual LCD panel inside the monitor). acer, benq, hp, etc. usually use chimei panels or some other shit brand.


Do they (samsung) actually manufacture their own panels, or do they source them?


Posted by echosystm on Dec-01-2007 07:11:

quote:
Originally posted by 3F05Q
Do they (samsung) actually manufacture their own panels, or do they source them?


Ok lets make a bit of a distinction here to avoid confusion! "Panel" = the lcd screen inside the monitor. "Monitor" = the case, controls, panel etc.

Samsung is the only major MONITOR brand who manufactures their own PANELS. That said, not all Samsung MONITORS use Samsung PANELS. For example, the 226BW has three different panels in the same model (A = Samsung, B & C = Chimei). It's a luck of the draw with that model.

Pretty much every other MONITOR brand sources their pannels from Chimei/CMO or Samsung and so forth. Dell often use Samsung panels in high end monitors. ASUS are also doing it a bit more lately.

When you look at LCD prices, you will always see some LCDs are a fair bit cheaper than others. This is because they use a shit panel. There is really no such thing as a "good deal" in IT. Everything has a cost and you get what you pay for. If you buy a cheap monitor, the inverter probably hums, it is probably a crappy 6bit panel (not 8bit) and the colour controls are probably crap.

FYI, 6 bit panels go up to "16.2M colours". This is not accurate. A large portion of that 16.2m colours are dithered from 6 bits. 8 bit panels support 16.7m colours, without any dithering. Obviously 8 bit panels are far better quality.

To throw some numbers at you...

8-bit panel: 16,777,216 colours
6-bit panel: 262,144 colours

Thats a massive difference lol


Posted by echosystm on Dec-01-2007 07:21:

On topic...

it depends on what software you're using really. something like ableton live or reaper is probably best on a bigger monitor. cubase, sonar, protools, etc. would definately be better on two monitors. i would say go widescreen if you're gonna get 24" or higher. otherwise 2x17" would be the win.

general computing is also better on two monitors, in my oppinion. even though i have a 22", i still do most of my work in fullscreen, leaving no screen space for other aps. logic would say this is just a habbit, but i've had this screen for 12 months so i don't think so!


Posted by farris on Dec-01-2007 07:31:

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
That said, not all Samsung MONITORS use Samsung PANELS. For example, the 226BW has three different panels in the same model (A = Samsung, B & C = Chimei). It's a luck of the draw with that model.

So, to stay a little bit offtopic
How do you find out which type of panel it is. I'm looking into the 206BW, don't know if those can have three different panels too.
Is there any way to look it up when in the shop or can the seller can look it up?

- farris


Posted by echosystm on Dec-01-2007 07:33:

quote:
Originally posted by farris
So, to stay a little bit offtopic
How do you find out which type of panel it is. I'm looking into the 206BW, don't know if those can have three different panels too.
Is there any way to look it up when in the shop or can the seller can look it up?

- farris


google usually has the answer, if you type in like "206BW chimei". worst case scenario, go on whirlpool (australian broadband forum) and ask on there. those guys seem to know everything about everything.


Posted by farris on Dec-01-2007 08:35:

Cool! Just found a Dutch forum with loads of info too. Thanks.


Posted by nec on Dec-03-2007 13:47:

I'm soon going to buy a new lcd screen and I've been wondering the same thing..
I will use it with my laptop so I wonder if its more sensible to buy 1 24" or 2 smaller lcds? Having 2 smaller lcds will be a little more expensier since I will have to buy that thing which separates the output (costs about 200€..

The next thing is I really dont have much space left on my table so I think going for 24" lcd is a better option..

What do you guys think?

Thanks for help


Posted by Magnus on Dec-03-2007 14:34:

Go with 2 LCDs. The more screen space the better. Right now I'm using 1 19inch CRT running at 1600x1200 and one 24" LCD running at 1920x1200 and I still run out of space. I use 2 applications at once via rewire so 2 seperate screens is a total must. I want to get a matching 24" to the one I already have but gotta save up first.


Posted by 3F05Q on Dec-03-2007 19:19:

quote:
Originally posted by nec
I'm soon going to buy a new lcd screen and I've been wondering the same thing..
I will use it with my laptop so I wonder if its more sensible to buy 1 24" or 2 smaller lcds? Having 2 smaller lcds will be a little more expensier since I will have to buy that thing which separates the output (costs about 200€..

The next thing is I really dont have much space left on my table so I think going for 24" lcd is a better option..

What do you guys think?

Thanks for help


Does your laptop support dual monitors, as in the laptop being one and the external being the second? Does your laptop have DVI out?


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