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I've actually never seen a real DJ set

I've seen pics and all, but I have absolutely NO idea what it's like to DJ. I have no idea like...does Armin van Buuren just mix songs and sounds or does he make his own? I have 0 idea on what is going on. Yes I've been to parties etc. (infact, I work at a club as bartender) but I've never seen a real DJ set up close and played it cuz the DJ packs before I'm finished cleaning or I leave before the party ends cuz I have school the next day!! My friend had one, but we always ended up playing guitar and drums (cuz he played the drums, I played guitar) when I went to his house!

So anyways, someone give me a rundown on what goes on in the DJ set, if you can with pics. Hell, a video wouldn't be too bad. lol. Use common language.


Sry for this question, it just pisses me off how I'm really into the music yet have no idea how it's made.

For example. If I wanted to start out with a very limited budget, what are the essential things I would need? Give me full names, numbers, and letters, cuz I actually have NO clue. I wanna staaaaaaaaaaaaaart! lol.

Which is it that you want to start? In your question you sort of blur the lines between DJing and producing, which are two different things.

At a very simplified level, DJing is mixing together records, or tracks/songs that have been finished.

Producing is the art of making said tracks/songs.

Advice: get a clue before you decide if you want to start mixing or not.

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Originally posted by AnomalyConcept Which is it that you want to start? In your question you sort of blur the lines between DJing and producing, which are two different things. At a very simplified level, DJing is mixing together records, or tracks/songs that have been finished. Producing is the art of making said tracks/songs.

Oh ok, so wait. Let's use an example here. Say...I make a track, then I mix it with another one. That is: I produced a song, then mixed the song with an already existing song that I didn't produce?

If that's right, then right now, I guess producing, cuz it's more creative in a way. Mixing sounds easier, I'm probably wrong on that though .

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Originally posted by Clovis Advice: get a clue before you decide if you want to start mixing or not.

Listen man, I'm not here to fight, I'm here to get a clue, as you said. What do you think this place is for?

Djs who are more producers are usually guys like DJ Shadow who use other's records and "samples" from them which then he uses to create tracks. Lots of famous hip hop DJs do this. With trance DJs, they may do some post-production or may do loops, mash-ups, or even some live remixing, but they really don't create music when DJing, just mixing tracks like already said. But many are producers as well, and play many of their own productions in their sets.

So Armin van Buuren's track "Slipstream" is a production, right?

PS: I'm not into hip-hop DJing at all.

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Originally posted by Spooky Sounds Listen man, I'm not here to fight, I'm here to get a clue, as you said. What do you think this place is for?

I'm just trying to understand how you could already be convinced that you want to start DJing without having a clue as to what it entails.

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Originally posted by Clovis I'm just trying to understand how you could already be convinced that you want to start DJing without having a clue as to what it entails.

because I love the music, I kinda said it above. Listen, if you don't want to help, then move this to PM, cuz it's kinda disturbing my thread.

To put it simply.

DJ: Plays and mixes tracks together for a party etc.
They get cds/vinyls and match the speeds in bpm (beats per minute) then fade between the tracks (Simply).

Producer: Writes music and produces music in a studio.

Ah ok, so wut kind of equipment would I need to start producing?

first thing you need is a helmet.

Why are people being such assholes? I mean, I get it's a very very very simple question to you guys, but come on, ever try starting something but don't know how or where to start from? I'm just asking for advice from the pro's here.

If you guys weren't good at making sigs and wanted to start doing it badly, then I'd be glad to help and I wouldn't act like an ass, so please, help out instead of making these comments.

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Originally posted by hooj1 first thing you need is a helmet.

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Originally posted by hooj1 first thing you need is a helmet.

lmao

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Originally posted by Spooky Sounds Ah ok, so wut kind of equipment would I need to start producing?

Some sort of production program like Cubase or Fl Studio.

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Originally posted by s3nate Some sort of production program like Cubase or Fl Studio.

And a MIDI Keyboard of some sorts and some decent monitors and headphones.

Thread-Starter, your probably being serious but some people on here either think you aren't (because it's an assumption that people who are either new or completely oblivious to EDM think..DJs are "making music" when they mix) or are just being jerks, so ignore them. Name calling is the in thing to do on here "flaming" if you will...TA is like a classroom gone wild...adults who never got out of their teenage years. My advice..watch what you say in the MD discussion (your sig will probably get you flamed right away) and really stay out of the COR...kinda scary in there sometimes...some of the discussions that go on....a lot of them are really in their own group where everyone knows each other and likes to tear into each other for fun.

Ok, thnx for the above posts. Now why would anyone get pissed at my sig?

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Originally posted by Spooky Sounds Ok, thnx for the above posts. Now why would anyone get pissed at my sig?

Because there are people in the MD that post regularly that despise what Armin has done and feel he's deluded trance, sold it out to the mainstream, play music that is more "pop" than trance. They view those who like him as DJ Worshipers (even though some just worship other DJs but that's another story). You are more likely to find people into Armin van Buuren and the like on Trance.nu then Tranceaddict. There's also a lot of people who are not really even that into trance, some who don't like it at all, and others who don't like it much anymore. I'm not quite as into it as I was three or four years ago, but I can still find a few nice tracks I enjoy and mix with. I don't think I've given up on it completely, and I feel the last few months of 2007 have been pretty good, maybe 2008 will be even better. Many ASOT/Armin/Tiesto/Ferry Corsten/Markus Schulz/Above & Beyond etc threads turn into flame matches on there.

So I should kind of leave? lol. Seeing as those sites have ppl like me.

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Originally posted by Spooky Sounds So I should kind of leave? lol. Seeing as those sites have ppl like me.

No no just be careful. I don't even like Armin that much, but I get slack on there for liking the newer stuff, some stuff he plays. They can just get hostile, so it's best to ignore or be really careful in not making threads where you will be flamed. That's hard, seeing you like Armin and most likely enjoy epic/uplifting trance. People tend to like their sound either tougher or deeper, but not cheesy/pop/mainstream music (or what they deem as that). Older 90s trance (some stuff you probably never heard of), psy trance and prog psy trance, techno, minimal (somewhat) and various house and breaks stuff gets more respect than contemporary trance. So it's really about people trying to expand your tastes into what they like, rather than you liking what you like and being able to have a conversation with others about it uninterrupted. There's a lot of whining and bitching on there about trance being dead, it dying in 1999 or something...Ferry Corsten killing it, what constitutes proper, "real" trance..yada, yada, yada...

If you want to talk about ASOT, Armin, the latest epic trancer...your best bet is Trance.nu. Talk about another form of EDM or a specific kind of trance..not something Armin plays (or is on any of his labels) then stay here. There is some discussion on his CDs which are kind of civil, and they are probably right about the quality degrading cause I feel it has on each new ASOT CD (and his new UR).

honestly man, i totally agree with spirit5 but dont let assholes make you leave this forum. post what you want, when you want and if someone gives u shit tell em to fuck off or just ignore em. there will always be good ppl in this place who still want to help and dont have there heads so far up there asses that they think they were born with all their knowledge they about edm. at some point they had to ask questions too,

uh oh, iv noticed a type on my reply.. now watch as someone says i shouldnt be on here because i have poor grammer..

production : you produce "ONE" track, sign it with a label and then release it (if you wanna have it released)... DJs then pick up these produced tracks and mix them into other produced tracks (like what you hear in a club)!!

Regarding production, there's an entire section dedicated to production.

You may have more luck there if you're looking for production advice. There should also be numerous threads about gear for production.

Personally, though, I would start off with an inexpensive software package (FL Studio comes to mind; there are different versions at different price points) to get a feel for production before getting any hardware.

A MIDI keyboard will be vastly helpful, since it makes composing that much easier when you can just play it rather than try to click it out with a mouse.

Cheers, and enjoy your stay. Don't let a few people ruin your experience. It's the internet after all. Thing is, some people create alternate accounts (alts) and troll with them. Most of these accounts are usually created recently, and they're pretty numerous. It's very likely that some people automatically equate a new account (yours was created Dec. 2007, and we're just a few days into December) with an alt, and respond in kind.

And a bit off-topic: ASOT for me is hit or miss, some episodes I abhor, while others are pleasant to listen to. And, the latest UR seems forced (top-list tracklist, poor transitions/mixing, etc.)

orangejuice: gtfo =P

sorry i must have been way off base to tell the guy to ignore the trolls and post what he wants.. my bad

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