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Posted by Zergatik on May-01-2002 11:56:

Dunno The flags

I tried to choose the flag of my country in the country chart, but I couldn't find Basque Flag, so I had to put European Flag
If there are other "countries" like Greenland, Gibraltar, Scotland, Wales or Norfolk Island, why not Basque Country (also called Euskadi, Euskal Herria, Pa�s Vasco, Pays Basque, ...)?


Posted by eXos on May-01-2002 14:45:

Is it a country?

NO! Its a region!


Posted by Blik on May-01-2002 15:15:

quote:
Originally posted by !_PeTrUs_!
Is it a country?

NO! Its a region!


yep, I agree with this...


Posted by Zergatik on May-01-2002 18:16:

quote:
Originally posted by !_PeTrUs_!
Is it a country?

NO! Its a region!


I (and Basque People) don't agree with that. Basque Country is a country like his name says (Basque Country) It hasn't an own state like also Scotland and Wales that are in Great Britain. We are divided in Spanish and French state, but we are a country like Scotland and Wales.

Otherwise Gibraltar is included like a country, and it isn't a country. It's a British colony.

If Gibraltar, Scotland and Wales are included, why Basque Country not?


Posted by Miss Proximus on May-01-2002 18:22:

I haven't seen a Frisian flag goddamnit!


Posted by Blik on May-01-2002 18:22:

next thing is that swamper has to add the flags of every state in America and every province in the world


Posted by Zergatik on May-01-2002 18:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Blik
next thing is that swamper has to add the flags of every state in America and every province in the world





I haven't said anything about provinces. I'm talking about the countries. We have the same political status that Scotland and Wales. And of course much more than Gibraltar for example.
I'm only asking: "Why they have their flags and we not?"
You said that Basque Country is not a country. That is a non-sense. Basque Country = Pa�s Vasco (Pa�s means country in Spanish) = Pays Basque (Pays means country in French) = Euskal Herria (Herria means country in Basque Language) = Euskadi (that word was invented by Sabino Arana. The founder of Basque Nationalist Party)
So this means that Basque Country is a Country. Nobody call it like Basque Region or anything like that. Also Spanish and French President says "Pais Vasco" or "Pays Basque".

And the question is "Why Scottish, Welsh and Gibraltarian flags appears and Basque Flag not?"


Posted by jlosada on May-01-2002 20:51:

Lo que faltaba para animar el cotarro!


Posted by Blik on May-01-2002 21:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Zergatik

I haven't said anything about provinces. I'm talking about the countries. We have the same political status that Scotland and Wales. And of course much more than Gibraltar for example.
I'm only asking: "Why they have their flags and we not?"
You said that Basque Country is not a country. That is a non-sense. Basque Country = Pa�s Vasco (Pa�s means country in Spanish) = Pays Basque (Pays means country in French) = Euskal Herria (Herria means country in Basque Language) = Euskadi (that word was invented by Sabino Arana. The founder of Basque Nationalist Party)
So this means that Basque Country is a Country. Nobody call it like Basque Region or anything like that. Also Spanish and French President says "Pais Vasco" or "Pays Basque".

And the question is "Why Scottish, Welsh and Gibraltarian flags appears and Basque Flag not?"


so you are saying, just because it has country behind it, it should have his own flag, so that means that Miss Proximus should have her flag for Friesland <--means country in dutch.....

it is a flag for countries, and basque isn't a country....


Posted by -=WVG=- on May-01-2002 21:26:

Sorry, aarsgezicht, I think this is pretty ridiculous and a waste of time...


Posted by Opti on May-01-2002 21:30:

bleeeeeegghhhh

I hate those suckers of ETA

almost cancelled real madrid - barcelona because of that bombing

its not a fucking country, its a part of Spain. You'd wish it was a country ghehehe.



ff wat smilies uitproberen ghehehe


Posted by Ste on May-02-2002 13:54:

well dont the basque sepratists go around blowing stuff up because peopel dont think of them as a country?


Posted by Zergatik on May-02-2002 15:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Optimus
bleeeeeegghhhh

I hate those suckers of ETA

almost cancelled real madrid - barcelona because of that bombing

its not a fucking country, its a part of Spain. You'd wish it was a country ghehehe.



ff wat smilies uitproberen ghehehe


Sorry, but you're confusing the terms
-Most of Basque People hates ETA too (I hate it too). We hate the use of the violence to impose the ideas, although they could be good ideas.

-Basque People aren't terrorist. This is like Red Brigades for example in Italy: Nobody says that Italian are terrorist because of Red Brigades. This is very similar.

-Basque Country is a country. The actual political status says that Basque Country is a country. The actual Statute of Gernika (Organical Law 3/79 18-12-1979) says clearly that Basque Country is a country. I don't have any English translation of the text, but in the Basque version and in the Spanish Version it says clearly. It doesn't says anything about region or province


And the question that hasn't received any answer is:
-Why Scotland and Wales are countries and not part of Great Britain?
Basque Country, Scotland and Wales are the same political status inside European Union. And Gibraltar of course is not a country
I don't know anything about Friesland (I don't know where it is and I don't know its political status), but if you think it's a country too, you have right to ask the flag be inserted.


And the only question that now I have asking is:
What is the difference between Scotland or Wales and Basque Country?

Please, answer that last question


Posted by jlosada on May-02-2002 19:43:

If you want to have the basque flag in every post that you make, please put it in your signature as you make in your first post and everybody will be happy:

you, because you have your basque flag,

and the rest of the people, because this stupid issue would be finished.

REMEMBER:

THIS IS A FORUM FOR TRANCE MUSIC, NOT FOR POLITICAL ISSUES.

Thanks,


Posted by Taub on May-02-2002 20:16:

It is a country isnt it? i was watching a show and they said it is a country but neither spain or france see them as a country, but theyhave their own language...i want to go there one day


Posted by Zergatik on May-02-2002 20:31:

quote:
Originally posted by jlosada
If you want to have the basque flag in every post that you make, please put it in your signature as you make in your first post and everybody will be happy:

you, because you have your basque flag,

and the rest of the people, because this stupid issue would be finished.

REMEMBER:

THIS IS A FORUM FOR TRANCE MUSIC, NOT FOR POLITICAL ISSUES.

Thanks,


I don't agree with you. This section isn't for Trance Music. I could say the same about your argues about Champions League. Is this a forum for football? No

This section of the forum (Site suggestions) is for this. We have the right to follow with this issue and argue about that

If forum's administrator doesn't accept this petition, I will that you say (put in my signature as I make in my first post), but I think I should try it.

Otherwise I don't annoy to everybody writing this "stupid"?? issue. If you don't like it, don't read this section and everybody will be happy:

you, because you won't have to read "stupid" issues,

and rest of the people because they could argue civically and democratically about the essential question of the issue:

What is the difference between Scotland, Wales, Gibraltar or Oakland Island and Basque Country?


Posted by jlosada on May-02-2002 20:40:

Basque Country?

No,

VASCONGADAS


Posted by jlosada on May-02-2002 21:10:

Para que seguir discutiendo.

No te van a hacer ni puto caso!


Posted by Ste on May-02-2002 23:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Taub it is a country but neither spain or france see them as a country, but theyhave their own language...i want to go there one day


They call that country:

Tyne & Wear!


Posted by Spad on May-03-2002 01:01:

I don't see what the problem is if he wants a flag. Does it really make any difference to anybody else? Honestly? Why all the negativity? If the people that live there class it as a country nobody else has any right to say otherwise.



Anyway it's 2am and I'm bored so I made one.


Posted by jon on May-03-2002 01:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Spad
I don't see what the problem is if he wants a flag. Does it really make any difference to anybody else? Honestly? Why all the negativity? If the people that live there class it as a country nobody else has any right to say otherwise.



Anyway it's 2am and I'm bored so I made one.


nice to see you are puting your spare time to usefull things...

btw - now there is a flag in the correct format can it be added to the flag list swamper?


Posted by Taub on May-03-2002 05:36:

quote:
Originally posted by DuMonde TrAnCeR


They call that country:

Tyne & Wear!




sarcasm? so where is basque?


Posted by JM on May-05-2002 06:54:

and this country is where???

sorry about my non-education...

>JM<


Posted by Zergatik on May-05-2002 12:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Juricimo
and this country is where???

sorry about my non-education...

>JM<


It's in Europe between Spain (in the North) and France (in the SouthWest)


Posted by Dj Martijn on May-10-2002 10:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Spad
I don't see what the problem is if he wants a flag. Does it really make any difference to anybody else? Honestly? Why all the negativity? If the people that live there class it as a country nobody else has any right to say otherwise.



Anyway it's 2am and I'm bored so I made one.

I Could not agree with u more here Spad Let the guy have his individuality. Why argue over whether it is a country or not. Im sure it won't take too much effort to add the flag especially after spad kindly made one


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