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Posted by Jake Benson on Dec-16-2007 04:56:

Unhappy Has the meaning of "remixer" shifted?

From what I understand, since the mid-late 90s, the "remixer" was the person(s) who basically reproduced the song, using just the vocals, sometimes using some of the melody or samples, and more rarely using the exact same melody/instrument files.

Maybe I'm just emersed in a land of idiots here in America, but I get messages all the time that are along the lines of:

"Nice remixes, do you produce and create music also?"
(thinks I did just a mash-up or something ghey)

"I like ur mixes, where do you spin?"
(thinks I'm just spinning someone else's songs)

Is the word "remixer" just becomming synonymous with "DJ" and "mash-up"? I feel like I should just start labeling my remixes as "jake benson club version" instead of "jake benson club remix." Or maybe I just have too much sand in my vagina? I dunno. What's all y'all's take on it?


Posted by distant on Dec-16-2007 05:04:

Not really. In my experience it usually means taking the midi notes, vocals etc. but doing everything else from scratch.


Posted by Trance-Canada on Dec-16-2007 06:59:

quote:
Originally posted by distant
Not really. In my experience it usually means taking the midi notes, vocals etc. but doing everything else from scratch.



thats how i do it.


Posted by [mart] on Dec-16-2007 12:11:

My understanding of the term 'remix' is that it can be applied to just about anything that counts as an alternative version of a track. I don't think it's really anything more specific than that.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Dec-16-2007 14:34:

You're just getting emailed by idiots.


Posted by josh rising on Dec-16-2007 17:47:

hi jake! i have nothing to contribute to this topic because i'll never be successful enough to be faced with this dilemma, but i just wanted to say hi. how have you been?


Posted by phantom limb on Dec-16-2007 18:48:

Re: Has the meaning of "remixer" shifted?

quote:
Originally posted by Jake Benson
From what I understand, since the mid-late 90s, the "remixer" was the person(s) who basically reproduced the song, using just the vocals, sometimes using some of the melody or samples, and more rarely using the exact same melody/instrument files.

Maybe I'm just emersed in a land of idiots here in America, but I get messages all the time that are along the lines of:

"Nice remixes, do you produce and create music also?"
(thinks I did just a mash-up or something ghey)

"I like ur mixes, where do you spin?"
(thinks I'm just spinning someone else's songs)

Is the word "remixer" just becomming synonymous with "DJ" and "mash-up"? I feel like I should just start labeling my remixes as "jake benson club version" instead of "jake benson club remix." Or maybe I just have too much sand in my vagina? I dunno. What's all y'all's take on it?


Well, I would have to say I've noticed a lot of remixes in the past few years that are just some sounds altered and that's it--same notes, same structure, and nothing unique to it. Some of Bart Claessen's and hate to say it, Airbase's remixes are just heavier basslines and bigger drum rhythms. I think these guys are awesome producers, but some of thier remixes--damn!!!!!


Posted by Jake Benson on Dec-17-2007 08:18:

quote:
Originally posted by josh rising
hi jake! i have nothing to contribute to this topic because i'll never be successful enough to be faced with this dilemma, but i just wanted to say hi. how have you been?


Hey Josh long time no talk! What u been up to? I doubt I'll be successful enough either. But ironically since I've been focusing on my day job, my music has gotten WAY better. I want u to hear my new stuff. =)

Meanwhile, I am suspecting the meaning of "remixer" is shifting to mean something of less value to pop culture because remixing is becomming easier thanks to prepackaged melodies and chords (which I NEVER use) and drum loops (ok I totally use them but chop & process them).


Posted by nefardec on Dec-17-2007 20:58:

Re: Has the meaning of "remixer" shifted?

quote:
Originally posted by Jake Benson
From what I understand, since the mid-late 90s, the "remixer" was the person(s) who basically reproduced the song, using just the vocals, sometimes using some of the melody or samples, and more rarely using the exact same melody/instrument files.

Maybe I'm just emersed in a land of idiots here in America, but I get messages all the time that are along the lines of:

"Nice remixes, do you produce and create music also?"
(thinks I did just a mash-up or something ghey)

"I like ur mixes, where do you spin?"
(thinks I'm just spinning someone else's songs)

Is the word "remixer" just becomming synonymous with "DJ" and "mash-up"? I feel like I should just start labeling my remixes as "jake benson club version" instead of "jake benson club remix." Or maybe I just have too much sand in my vagina? I dunno. What's all y'all's take on it?




well certainly there are idiots who confuse mashups with remixes, especially with all of the mashup pop/hiphop myspace nonsense these days


Posted by Stu Cox on Dec-18-2007 00:26:

Well TECHNICALLY (going by the original uses of words) a 'remix' is just a different mixdown of a track, i.e. simply altering the volumes of each of the parts. Most creations labelled as 'remixes' are essentially licensed/unlicensed 'covers' of a record (if you don't use any recorded parts from the original) or a bootleg reinterpretation (if you do use recorded bits from the orig).


But that's just me being very excessively pedantic.

Yes, in its general use nowadays a remix is an alternative version of a track - you've obviously just been conversing with people who don't understand these things (of which there are many in the world).



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