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Very Interesting Interview!

http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature-read.aspx?id=859

Its sad to hear what he has to say about Montreal but its true . I still have hope since there seems to be atleast a small minority still pushing the scene!

Its like playing pakistani music and wondering why you can't make a living out of it in Houston.

Seriously, we love his music but there's not enough people into it. Its an european music first and foremost. We're not there yet.

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Originally posted by malek Its like playing pakistani music and wondering why you can't make a living out of it in Houston. Seriously, we love his music but there's not enough people into it. Its an european music first and foremost. We're not there yet.

That's pretty much the long and the short of it.

The thing is about Europe is it's so dense. I land in London, take a 2 hour Eurostar and I'm in Brussels, 45 minute train later I'm in Antwerp, 2 hours from there Amsterdam. 3 hours from there, and you'r ein Paris. We're talking 5 *completely* different places a stone-throw away from one another. Take a train for 2 hours from Montreal and where do you end up with a party scene? It's just not really comparable out here.

Mtl is all about the headliners

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Originally posted by Sean Walsh Take a train for 2 hours from Montreal and where do you end up with a party scene? It's just not really comparable out here.

that would be Ottawa

I guess it's all relative. Quebec is far more progressive than rest of Canada at least..

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You would think with the number of after-hours places in Montr�al, though... Well, the problem with the after-hours places in Montr�al is that they�re super commercial and don�t give a fuck about the music. Vince tried to have a night in one of those places and after a few times the owner was like, �You and your weird friends...you gotta go.�

its all bullshit
people have to understand that in order to keep clubs running, you gotta appeal to the mass. and to appeal to the mass u gotta play music that appeals to the mass

a club is a commerce. commerce... commercial... make the connection?
you cant force your music onto people if they dont like it ...

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Originally posted by djlemeir a club is a commerce. commerce... commercial... make the connection?

OH MY GOD EVERYTHING IS SO CLEAR NOW! THANK YOU! :P

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Originally posted by djlemeir its all bullshit people have to understand that in order to keep clubs running, you gotta appeal to the mass. and to appeal to the mass u gotta play music that appeals to the mass a club is a commerce. commerce... commercial... make the connection? you cant force your music onto people if they dont like it ...

In this country for sure, in say the EU where it was mentioned everything is a stone's throw away it's so easy for people to do whatever the hell they want because there will be a decent enough scene to support it and eventually will grow huge. Oversaturation happens but the underground is on par with it in the EU or even latin america usually. It usually happens where people are more open to things as well which helps.

two extremes here...


guillaume's music is veryyy off center and the music at "x" supper club is very on point easy commercial music.


the whole trick is to bridging this gap and finding and playing music which is both appealing to the masses, yet musically satisfying.



you don't need to sell out or bury yourself underground- we can all coexist

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Originally posted by Allied Nations two extremes here... guillaume's music is veryyy off center and the music at "x" supper club is very on point easy commercial music. the whole trick is to bridging this gap and finding and playing music which is both appealing to the masses, yet musically satisfying. you don't need to sell out or bury yourself underground- we can all coexist

True enough, but there comes a point where even 'underground' artists reach crazy commercial status then either keep going or just go the complete opposite. Aphex Twin I think had done that.

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Originally posted by Endlesswave True enough, but there comes a point where even 'underground' artists reach crazy commercial status then either keep going or just go the complete opposite. Aphex Twin I think had done that.

sure, because he found the right medium, the right style - all at the right time.


sometimes everything just fits




plus a lot of aphex's work isn't easy to listen to at all, the masses just listen to it because he's produced a number of works which reach out beyond any genre borders. he has credibility, he's established.

aphex twin's selected ambient works will not be playing on fm radio anytime soon

Guillaume is right.

The scene sucks.

On the other hand, small market, big distance between the scenes, etc.

Still, even if the scene sucks, even if people are brainless benassi lovers, we are very lucky to have promoters (Mutek, I Love Neon, Piknic, Microzoo, Noerg, Mirrorballs, etc, etc) that give time, MONEY (lots of it) to this scene and make it possible to be one of the hottest places in North America....lightyears away of the european scenes

Thanks guys

Yes, all you have to do is look at the Western TA threads to see how far behind they are. But the city runs the risk of stagnating if promoters lack vision and lose that balance that's being discussed here, and focus on solely on profits. You guys see the lineup for Bal en Blanc 08?

Appealing to the masses.. even the masses get bored of the generic. You just don't know that until something new comes along and ppl go ape shit over it. The thing is, the masses can be fed anything and will consume it endlessly, uncritically. But when something new and fresh comes out, watch out. That's where the pioneers, the innovators quite often capitalize. Part of the problmm here is that North America does not foster creativity, relatively speaking. It's not just the issue of economics, it's a cultural thing too ..

Geographically, the fact that Europe is a plethora of countries, of languages and cultures within a short distance, you will have more distinctions, more variety. Variety is the spice of life, and the spice of Europe. Canada is too homogenous culturally, however Quebec stands alone due to language and other cultural (and political) factors.

the fact that nobody produce music (or GOOD music) here doesn't help either
we don't have any solid Montreal based record label except Turbo
and the majority of people that considerer themselves "producers" here only do remixes lol...
the Montreal scene needs to work a lot moreeeee

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Originally posted by Vermz the fact that nobody produce music (or GOOD music) here doesn't help either we don't have any solid Montreal based record label except Turbo and the majority of people that considerer themselves "producers" here only do remixes lol... the Montreal scene needs to work a lot moreeeee

yeah and turbo has sucked for years


we have lots of good producers though


just take sultan and ned shepard- those two are fucking geniuses in a studio


mossa, pheek to name a few more...

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Originally posted by Allied Nations yeah and turbo has sucked for years we have lots of good producers though just take sultan and ned shepard- those two are fucking geniuses in a studio mossa, pheek to name a few more...

We have good producers here but I bet the majority of there sells if not all of them are from Europe.

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Originally posted by Allied Nations sure, because he found the right medium, the right style - all at the right time. sometimes everything just fits

'Hi, my name's Joel, some of you might know me from my alias Deadma...'



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