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Posted by ali92 on May-02-2002 03:24:

Talking Very interesting message that just got sent to me on ICQ...

One of my buddies on ICQ just sent me this... It's kool.... OK, here goes (ALL times are US Eastern Time Zone):

(PART 1) (23:07) :
I have this feeling, that conciousness, ALL conciousness, is connected intricately in ways that modern science does not even begin to consider or thikn about. All things in the universe are part of a many faceted sentience.. I do not think that in this world, it is the natural way that humans should be lying to eachother, cheating and killing and selling themselves their spirits, their sex their posessions, all while in ignorance of the plight of others who are in constant peril and face hatred and death every day...

(PART 2) (23:14) :
But I see in this age, an new thing happening among humans. It is preliminary and speaking to a future of total coexistence. Where conciousness is elevated beyond the dodrums of basic thoughts and concepts, and the world will be transformed in time to a place of unparallelled diversity, cooperation, harmony. There is no need in physiology, in human existence, in people's lives for such things as Hate, Xenophobia, Fear of Change.... All things can peacefully and willingly coexist if but the thought is made in the head, and the person thinks in earnest; 'I want to be happy. Thus I want the world to be happy with me!'. It is the greater way of nature not to exist alone, but to COexist amongst the multiverse. I've seen it increasingly exponentially with every rave I've witnessed in my life. People are not what they used to be, we are all yet evolving and changing. Shaping our futures, the futures of everything, for the harmonious cause of multiversal peace.


I just want to know what you think about it.....


Posted by AnotherWay83 on May-02-2002 03:49:

i think its wishful thinking

i've read such things countless times by god knows how many people...no offense man i wish it could be that way but i highly doubt that it will happen anytime in the near future...at least a couple thousand years or so...but on the whole its nice to think this way...


Posted by ali92 on May-02-2002 04:03:

quote:
Originally posted by AnotherWay83
i think its wishful thinking

i've read such things countless times by god knows how many people...no offense man i wish it could be that way but i highly doubt that it will happen anytime in the near future...at least a couple thousand years or so...but on the whole its nice to think this way...



I know... But, that's what she sent me... She sends me things like this ALL the time... I like'em but, I know that they are just fantasy.


Posted by Orbax on May-02-2002 04:07:

is she hot? if so then even if its "the doggy in my yard went bow wow today" its cool


Posted by ali92 on May-02-2002 05:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
is she hot? if so then even if its "the doggy in my yard went bow wow today" its cool


It's the 27 year old girl that I posted in the Asian pics thread. She was the last pic in the bunch that I posted.


Posted by AnotherWay83 on May-02-2002 05:31:

i think she wants j00...make ur move b4 she finds sum1 else..


Posted by davinox on May-02-2002 20:25:

conciousness is nothing more than an ability of your brain. that's all.


Posted by Cyrax on May-02-2002 21:12:

i LOVE those kind of things ...

makes me dream away into fantasy ...


cheerz


Posted by Luke Terry on May-02-2002 21:20:

Cool

I really shud say somid well informed and intelligent but I really can't be arsed so here is it in a summed up version: COOL


Posted by ali92 on May-02-2002 21:27:

quote:
Originally posted by AnotherWay83
i think she wants j00...make ur move b4 she finds sum1 else..


I know... I'm going to go see her this SUMMER!!!


Posted by OtakuCat on May-02-2002 22:54:

i thought it was very cool,but yes i agree i think it is wishful thinking,we as humans will not achieve that kind of state,because there will always be those who enjoy the more sinister paths in life,and i suppose that choice in fact constitutes to what makes us human


Posted by Eugene on May-02-2002 23:05:

The person who wrote this may be autistic


Posted by JohnSmith on May-03-2002 00:28:

quote:


(PART 1) (23:07) :
I have this feeling, that conciousness, ALL conciousness, is connected intricately in ways that modern science does not even begin to consider or thikn about. All things in the universe are part of a many faceted sentience.. I do not think that in this world, it is the natural way that humans should be lying to eachother, cheating and killing and selling themselves their spirits, their sex their posessions, all while in ignorance of the plight of others who are in constant peril and face hatred and death every day...

(PART 2) (23:14) :
But I see in this age, an new thing happening among humans. It is preliminary and speaking to a future of total coexistence. Where conciousness is elevated beyond the dodrums of basic thoughts and concepts, and the world will be transformed in time to a place of unparallelled diversity, cooperation, harmony. There is no need in physiology, in human existence, in people's lives for such things as Hate, Xenophobia, Fear of Change.... All things can peacefully and willingly coexist if but the thought is made in the head, and the person thinks in earnest; 'I want to be happy. Thus I want the world to be happy with me!'. It is the greater way of nature not to exist alone, but to COexist amongst the multiverse. I've seen it increasingly exponentially with every rave I've witnessed in my life. People are not what they used to be, we are all yet evolving and changing. Shaping our futures, the futures of everything, for the harmonious cause of multiversal peace.



Oh my God, that is so beautiful, gave me shivers up my spine.
it's true.

humanity is moving towards a global conciousness.
i see it at every rave too. and more than just raves, at peaceful gatherings, even moshpits. the people will help you up, everyone looks out for each other.

we are all just human beings, it makes no difference what language we speak, what nationality we are from. we all bleed the same color, we all have the same feelings, needs and wants. these borders we have drawn around us, these laws we have made.. they aren't real, they are only as real as you let them be.

the skeptics will say, "your friend wants to fuck you", or "it will never work", or "that's too idealistic, too utopian", or whatever makes it easy for them to go on living their lives comfortably.

there will always be skeptics, there will always be naysayers, and negative people. they simply have not seen the light.

it is growing, this thing, this global conciousness. hippie communes are becoming more popular, people are realizing the error of consumerism, environmentalism is taking off in a big way, and people are actually speaking out against the wars of the world.

this is not, somethign old, something done before. this is new. i started to feel it in 1999, before the millenium, the seed was planted in me. i have carefully observed it grow for the last 3 years. you only need to watch, it is there all around you.

the revolution is coming.


Posted by ali92 on May-03-2002 00:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Eugene
The person who wrote this may be autistic


What does "Autistic" mean?


Posted by JohnSmith on May-03-2002 00:58:

autistic people...

have you ever seen the movie Rainman?

i am not qualified to explain autism to you, but here is a basic explanation anyway.

autistic people have a brain that works differently from yours and mine.. i went to school with an autistic boy. he was SUPER good at math, like he could multiply 8 digit numbers in his head instantaneously, he could do math in binary, calculate pi to 347 decimal places in his head..

but, yet the kid had no social skills at all. he talked weird, like he was retarded. he was very easy to anger, and didn't understand normal rules of society.

these people.. they have a light that shines in a differen part of their brains..

go do some research on it if you want to know more.
http://www.google.ca/search?q=autis...le+Search&meta=


Posted by Damo on May-03-2002 01:27:

yes,exactly

Humans today are making up the rules by which we live and the way our children will live in the future, the only problem is.... we've got it all wrong. It's not about money, self-importance or society - these are all man-made. The human world has been created not to benefit or to work for some purpose - but for power and control right now. things that generate money end up killing us, the more we hunger for money, the more we're slowly killing off our race. think about how long our lifespans could be if the human race wasn't obsessed with profit ASAP. things have gotten out of hand and it may be too late to resolve them.

there is a next level, the human race has got to change, our generation is just a stepping stone to those changes, changes we won't live to see because of our predecessors.

fuck commercialism, fuck the mainstream, fuck trends, fuck fakeness, fuck your personal problems, fuck your "life", it's all irrelevant.

no one wants to face reality.

then you're dead.


Posted by JohnSmith on May-03-2002 01:41:

there is hope. we will see it in our lifetimes.

do you know why? why this is different than before?

three reasons:

the baby boomers, less old people with inflexible minds
the internet, global communication
trance, the music that feeds the soul and will unite the global.

just a thought, the mayan's say the world will end in 2013.

just a thought.


Posted by Orbax on May-03-2002 02:01:

I think it mightve been Aztecs (who cares theyre all the same =P )but they also had a calendar that calculated the length of the year to the .003 mark. thats pretty good !


Posted by jinxed84 on May-03-2002 02:39:

quote:
Originally posted by davinox
conciousness is nothing more than an ability of your brain. that's all.


no, consciousness is that annoying time between naps


on that schpiel or whatever you may call it... ugh optimism makes my head hurt...a nice thought maybe but its a little too generic prophetic for me...almost to the point of being annoying...but thats just my opinion, dismiss it at will


Posted by davinox on May-03-2002 02:47:

Re: yes,exactly

quote:
Originally posted by Damo
fuck your "life", it's all irrelevant.

no one wants to face reality.

then you're dead.


true....BUT...

Since our life is worthless to existance, our existance is worth everything to us.

We are made to live. That's what we as lifeforms do best. Our lives are worthless, but they have worth in our lives.
(because they are worthless, they mean everything to us, a worthless creature....see?)


Posted by Damo on May-03-2002 02:50:

granted, that's why i try to live life to it's fullest (i'm still working on that) but we could be part of something....better.

there's too many useless and detrimental people in the world.

that's why you hear people quoted in the media as saying "Hitler had some good ideas"

he did.


Posted by ali92 on May-03-2002 04:45:

quote:
Originally posted by JohnSmith
autistic people...

have you ever seen the movie Rainman?

i am not qualified to explain autism to you, but here is a basic explanation anyway.

autistic people have a brain that works differently from yours and mine.. i went to school with an autistic boy. he was SUPER good at math, like he could multiply 8 digit numbers in his head instantaneously, he could do math in binary, calculate pi to 347 decimal places in his head..

but, yet the kid had no social skills at all. he talked weird, like he was retarded. he was very easy to anger, and didn't understand normal rules of society.

these people.. they have a light that shines in a differen part of their brains..

go do some research on it if you want to know more.
http://www.google.ca/search?q=autis...le+Search&meta=



Damn! Do these people study around the clockor something?! But, as you just told me, "For every positive, there's ALWAYS a negative"...


Posted by JohnSmith on May-03-2002 15:22:

no, they don't. that's just the point. they don't need to. they are just LIKE that, mathematical. they don't have to study. math is as natural to them as breathing is to you, they just do it.

we all have that power in our mind. we just don't know how to use it.


Posted by JohnSmith on Jun-03-2002 19:53:

Hey, thought i would ressurect this thread.

My friend just sent me this, it made my day:


A little more than a year ago, I saw a vision of my potential future. By way of an external catalyst, I temporarily lived my self-actualisation. I could see clearer. Not only in terms of thought, but there was a really a greater physical distinction between objects. My point of reference to everything around me felt more accurate. I could feel the air and it no longer seemed invisible. As I looked around, my senses captured more information than usual. Peripheral vision was given greater focus and increased my total visual awareness. I then began to think. I remember thinking about people. So many people. So many relationships that I had at that time. From people like the post man who delivers the mail, to close relationships such as those with family and friends. I realised how much I truly loved people. I loved what they stood for. Shells around a perfect soul struggling to get out. Struggling to try and figure out how to operate this clumsy machine we call a human being. At that time, I had figured out how to run my machine. I felt in perfect harmony with it. I knew exactly what it was able to do, and how to do it. I began proposing situations in my mind where I would meet a certain type of person and understand exactly how to communicate with them. To bypass their usual mode of communication and quickly reach into their soul. To make them smile. To make them feel loved, and real and true and good. I ran dozens and dozens of scenarios in my head. Each one was successful. I became so confident in my mind that I decided that it was truly possible in 'real' life. The friend whom I'd experienced this state with was present and I hugged him truly. We went for a drive and while listening to a song, I sung aloud. My voice was loud and clear and in tune! I had never known that possible. Before entering my home to retire for the night, I had more conversations with my friend. I told him about my vision. I told him that I felt that if I continued to live in my present "enlightened" state that my future would be very different. With the realisation of my love for touching people, I could not imagine working a regular job. I could not imagine wanting to work towards attaining any material things that were beyond what was necessary for living a healthy existence. I saw myself as a servant to people. A servant to their happiness and their own self-actualisation. I saw myself able to do the 'impossible'. For if you can truly, honestly, and clearly communicate with someone, without any personal desire to promote an outcome, anything is possible. I saw all of this. But as I said, it was only temporary. I've not felt that way since. I've dreamed of it and longed for it, but have not seen it. I'm on a quest to find it.



I am seeing this stuff more and more each day, humans are evolving at a crazy pace worldwide it seems. does anybody else observe this?


Posted by vito on Jun-03-2002 20:38:

quote:
we all have that power in our mind. we just don't know how to use it.

maybe one day humans will use their whole brain and everyone will be able to do maths and other things like that. maybe even telepathy

as for your friend, i think thats more a case of magic pills than evolution, anyone that has experienced an alternate conscienceness knows what thats like, even alcohol can do it, but when you sober up its back to normal.

quote:
I could not imagine wanting to work towards attaining any material things that were beyond what was necessary for living a healthy existence.

i guess she should get rid of her computer then

good luck to your friend on finding what shes looking for

imo humans cant live like that, some people say they wouldn't wantto live that way, which i find strange, but humans are filled with hate and other f*ed emotions, we can never be happy or live in a utopia (unless we're on magic pills)


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