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Cia jet crashes in the Yucatan with cocaine in it

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This Florida based Gulfstream II jet aircraft # N987SA crash landed on September 24, 2007 after it ran out of fuel over Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula it had a cargo of several tons of Cocaine on board now documents have turned up on both sides of the Atlantic that link this Cocaine Smuggling Gulfstream II jet aircraft # N987SA that crashed in Mexico to the CIA who used it on at least 3 rendition flights from Europe and the USA to Guantanamo's infamous torture chambers between 2003 to 2005.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2.../608/933/420107

http://sacramentofordemocracy.org/?q=node/view/10514

Nice.

Old habits die hard I guess.

"Whiteout" is a great book that covers CIA drug smuggling, among other fun stuff.

The War on Drugs...

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Originally posted by Krypton The War on Drugs...

LOL, emphasis on "on Drugs"

I see the Cocaine Import Agency (CIA) is still as dedicated as ever.

I really don't understand the contradiction. Last I've read, the US has given billions in aide to the Columbian government to supposedly combat the insurgencies financed by cocaine trade and kidnappings. There should be a really heavy investigation on this...

This is insane.

They're bringing in heroine and cocaine, selling at ridiculously high costs, AND getting money put into the government from the need to fund police and fine/jail those captured.

It's basically America cannabalizing itself.

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Originally posted by Krypton I really don't understand the contradiction. Last I've read, the US has given billions in aide to the Columbian government to supposedly combat the insurgencies financed by cocaine trade and kidnappings. There should be a really heavy investigation on this...

Simple answer, it's not a war on drugs, it's a war on competition. Kind of like how the "war on terror" is really more like a monopoly on terror and military aggression. It's not so complicated really.

so I'm NOT batshit crazy! I did propose that CIA and other government agencies are using drug money to fund secret operations!

Welcome to the diner called "America"! Hey, if you like how our freedom tastes, don't be going to the kitchen to see what's cooking, don't ask what's in the soup, and most certainly PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN.

Good ole US of Friggin A! F*ck Yeah!

...tho, as the saying goes - "Yeah I know the game is crooked, but it's the only game in town".

LULz

Hasn't the CIA been doing this for about 50 year now? Or at least since the early 1980s when they started pushing crack into the ghettos.

The thing is that the American government is using drugs to harm the American people and people in Latin America. And the politicians are benefiting from this drug trade because they earn cold harsh cash in offshore accounts. Many politicians(those on and off screen) are millionaires for being involved in this trade and they are the ones pursuing others for doing the same thing. At least when cartels do it they provide jobs for the local community and not just keep all the money for themselves

Well, there is the CIA "Acid Test" back in the 1950's.

The whole history of the US Gov't and the drug trade is fascinating.

I'm confused. This is a private plane that was occasionally used by the CIA for flights, that crashed with coke. Apart from the fact the pilot may have known some agents, where is the connection? It was not a govt sanctioned flight when it crashed from the info provided here.

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Originally posted by pmoisse The whole history of the US Gov't and the drug trade is fascinating.

I wouldn't say interesting so much as hypocritical. I can understand what they're doing and why they are doing it, but at what cost to the American people?

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Originally posted by Krypton The War on Drugs...

You mean The War on Terror. LOL.

Can't we just have a war on terrifying drugs then?

what kind of purity is the CIA selling lol

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Originally posted by Zild I wouldn't say interesting so much as hypocritical. I can understand what they're doing and why they are doing it, but at what cost to the American people?

What do you mean you understand?

They're importing drugs in order to create untraceable income to spend on spies and assassins... which appear lately in the last several years to be completely incompetent.

Then Americans are being hunted and kidnapped (ie: imprisoned) by the state for using said drugs.

Thats what I mean. I understand they're importing blackmarket drugs to raise funds for spies, weapons, etc... I just think it is hypocritical that they're breaking the law in order to do so.

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Originally posted by Zild Thats what I mean. I understand they're importing blackmarket drugs to raise funds for spies, weapons, etc... I just think it is hypocritical that they're breaking the law in order to do so.

It just makes no sense.

No sense whatsoever.

You tell me. You've got the funds to employ people, resources such as planes, time, "intelligence" (apparently... ha) and an entire organization of con-men and people trained to lie and steal and kill.

So the biggest question of all is why they are flying in cocaine when they can just counterfeit money or similar schemes. Cheaper, safer, etc.

I hope I don't disappear for asking this.

Uhhh, the CIA can't just print money! That a different department anyways, the Federal Reserve.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Uhhh, the CIA can't just print money! That a different department anyways, the Federal Reserve.

Exactly. A lot of times you have elements of the CIA doing this without anyone else's knowledge or consent. They smuggle drugs so they don't have to tell their administrators why they need that extra $500,000.

But seriously point me towards any organization of con men and murderers and I'll point you to an organization that is running drugs or illegal arms.

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Originally posted by Zild Exactly. A lot of times you have elements of the CIA doing this without anyone else's knowledge or consent. They smuggle drugs so they don't have to tell their administrators why they need that extra $500,000. But seriously point me towards any organization of con men and murderers and I'll point you to an organization that is running drugs or illegal arms.

Yup, what's amusing and sad at the same time is when specific incidents of drug trafficing and arm sales, not 'involving' the CIA, but rather, operation spearheaded by the CIA become part of the public records, like Iran Contra or this incident for example, it's obfuscated and forgotton. Ofcourse, most people aren't even aware of less than half of the incidents that actually become part of the public record. But what's really a testament to a short attention span, apathy, and complacency is how in 'intellectuals' and the ignorant middle class masses treat it as being an aberration as opposed to the norm. That kind of decadance isn't only repulsive, but completely retarded.

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Originally posted by Zild Exactly. A lot of times you have elements of the CIA doing this without anyone else's knowledge or consent. They smuggle drugs so they don't have to tell their administrators why they need that extra $500,000.

Compartmentalization, but it's usually (if not always) top down.

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Originally posted by DJ Shibby It just makes no sense. No sense whatsoever. You tell me. You've got the funds to employ people, resources such as planes, time, "intelligence" (apparently... ha) and an entire organization of con-men and people trained to lie and steal and kill. So the biggest question of all is why they are flying in cocaine when they can just counterfeit money or similar schemes. Cheaper, safer, etc. I hope I don't disappear for asking this.

Counterfit money is dirty money btw and it leaves a trail. It's not exactly something easy to get away with, very easy to trace back. And the CIA don't need that kind of trouble with internal (national) institutions. It's high risk, definetly not safer. And when you do a cost benefit analysis, it is more costly.

I don't know. Being the criminal that I am if I were in the CIA I'd use compartmentalization, but I wouldn't tell anyone above me if I knew they weren't going to agree with my course of actions.

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