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Posted by Indavic on Dec-22-2007 21:42:

access virus b sysex problem

im having problems sending a sysex data (bank) to my access virus using cubase. i think it has something to do with a checksum error.
i know i had problems before with my jp8000 before but there was an application called jplibrary that solved my problems... is there anything like that for the virus maybe??
thanks

ps. also, my cubase always crashes now when it is working with my virus... wierd..

Posted by Ry Thomas on Dec-22-2007 21:44:

have you got sysex activated on the synth?

I had this problem with my JP and it had me baffled for ages

Posted by DJ RANN on Dec-22-2007 23:15:

Re: access virus b sysex problem

quote:
Originally posted by Indavic
im having problems sending a sysex data (bank) to my access virus using cubase. i think it has something to do with a checksum error.
i know i had problems before with my jp8000 before but there was an application called jplibrary that solved my problems... is there anything like that for the virus maybe??
thanks

ps. also, my cubase always crashes now when it is working with my virus... wierd..

I used to do tech support for for access and the common problem was with the midi interface (from cubase) sending the data too fast. make your BPM below 50 (30 is better) and try resending.

If your cubase is still giving you problems try sending it via Midi-OX (again with the correct settings like large buffers etc.)

Hope this helps.

Posted by Indavic on Dec-23-2007 10:13:

k i tried sending with 30bpm but still didnt work...

and i must be an idiot cuz i cant figure out midi-ox for the life of me.. i changed the buffer settings nad stuff and the sysex data still wont send. it says that the midi port is currently being used or wahtever...
hmmm, i saw that vsex is a librarian for the virus but its command line and sooo complicated.. (i think?)

any suggestions?

Posted by [Alpha]Dave on Dec-23-2007 11:03:

I can't really help you, but I can tell you this..
I use cubase myself and a virus b, and when I've loaded
a bank to the virus is has worked like a charm without
changing settings etc. I've previously also loaded
banks through cubase to my JP. (Btw, the bpm has always
been the standard 120 when I've done this.)

Posted by derail on Dec-23-2007 12:19:

hmm, it's been a while since I loaded up the banks of my Virus. I think I may have used a separate program though (? I get confused... I've loaded up heaps of synths with heaps of sounds, and many synths have their own software for managing the patch banks...)

I'd recommend though, just attach the Virus by itself to the MIDI in and out, just to make sure there's no possibility anything else is getting in the way of the signal. That's an issue I had once.

Posted by DJ RANN on Dec-23-2007 17:32:

quote:
Originally posted by derail

I'd recommend though, just attach the Virus by itself to the MIDI in and out, just to make sure there's no possibility anything else is getting in the way of the signal. That's an issue I had once.

+1, That's a very good point. Also, sounds daft but check your midi cables for faults/correct routing.

Posted by Indavic on Dec-24-2007 06:01:

ok so everything is fine.. i mean i made a whole song using just factory presets and my own custom sounds.
my problem is when i start playing a sysex/midi bank then i see the data being transfered thru but i get this wierd "S E" icon beside the preset name on the lcd display.
i mean the bank in question is manuel shcesis' incubation volu 1.
i got it for free off of access music's website.

hmm, any thoughts?

Posted by derail on Dec-25-2007 00:33:

I'd have to check my Virus KC's manual...you're following the instructions in your manual, I take it? It's been ages since I did any sysex dumps on my Virus, a lot of synths need to be in "ready to receive" mode before the data is sent. Not sure if the Virus is one of those.

(from memory..though it's hazy...I think I may have used a dedicated piece of software. I seem to remember seeing all the patch names on my screen as it was sending them across, and it showed the names of the patches which used to be in my Virus) Have you looked around for dedicated software? I may be off on this, but it'd be worth checking out.

Posted by Indavic on Dec-25-2007 01:10:

patch names are supposed to be flying? wow, im doing something wrong.. yeah ive used my sequencer and a dedicated midi program but i still freeze up half way thru the transfer. ie) the midi file appears to be sending fine now and i get a clock and a note icon alternating besides the patch name which seems to be working....

but then my computer freezes mid transfer and just locks up on me...

soo confused.. and am desperate to get this to work

Posted by DJ RANN on Dec-25-2007 02:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Indavic
patch names are supposed to be flying? wow, im doing something wrong.. yeah ive used my sequencer and a dedicated midi program but i still freeze up half way thru the transfer. ie) the midi file appears to be sending fine now and i get a clock and a note icon alternating besides the patch name which seems to be working....

but then my computer freezes mid transfer and just locks up on me...

soo confused.. and am desperate to get this to work

Your computer freezing up sounds like a problem with your soundcard/audio interface buffers, but some more info would help.

1, What soundcard are you using?
2, What is the exact OS of the virus?
3, How exactly do you have it cabled up?
4, What program are you using to send it?

Posted by Indavic on Dec-25-2007 04:08:

1, What soundcard are you using?
2, What is the exact OS of the virus?
3, How exactly do you have it cabled up?
4, What program are you using to send it?

1. maudio delta 44
2. os 4.9 14.01.04
3. i have a usb/midi cable.. the out from the computer to the in of the synth and vice versa
4. im using cubase (just freezees) or bome's sendsx

basically i can see it transfering (when using bome's sendsx) up to 300 lines out of 1000 or so and then it just freezes and whole computer is dead.

Posted by DJ RANN on Dec-26-2007 21:09:

OK, what is the USB/midi cable (midi interface) you mention?

Posted by Indavic on Dec-27-2007 03:29:

*shrug* some cheap one i got off ebay.... says made in china if that helps lol

Posted by DJ RANN on Dec-27-2007 06:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Indavic
*shrug* some cheap one i got off ebay.... says made in china if that helps lol

....and there, I think lies your problem. Does it have a driver listed to help identify it? Can you change the latency on it to a greater (i.e. longer) setting? if so, try differnt buffer sizes and see if that makes a difference. Otherwise borrow, one from someone else and see if that works.

Posted by Indavic on Dec-27-2007 09:14:

nope.. the box it came with says... should work as plug and play on your computer..
that is all..;
lol

so its definately the midi cable??

Posted by derail on Dec-27-2007 12:56:

Hmm, I'm not so sure that it's the problem...I mean, if it's hooked up and you can send MIDI information to it (notes) and hear it play back...then it also works the other way, so you can assign it to a VST instrument and play it.. oh wait, it's not a keyboard. Do you have another hardware synth that has a keyboard, so you can test that the MIDI in and out are both working?

Have you also posted the question on the Vengeance forums, or searched through those forums? I assume there would be plenty of information there on loading Manuel's Virus soundsets.

Posted by Indavic on Dec-27-2007 13:42:

sorry, yes it is a keyboard
its the access virus KB
and yeah everything seems to be working fine. i can control vsts with it...

i dont have another hardware synth hooked up. this is the only one.
id try manuel's forum but he seems like a "dont waste my time" character (feels like it from his notes from his website) and since this was a free soundbank taken from access' site i doubt hed be interested in wasting his time troublshooting a "noob"....

i mean if this works out id be very eager to purchase incubation 3 but meh... id unno if manuel knows that.

to be honest i cant figure it out for the life of me. and i have intermediate knowledge about studio setups and synthesis....

im speculating ist the midi cable.. since it was a cheap one on ebay (no name knockoff)... i guess ill take my synth to my buddies house and plug direct midi in and out to his external sound card (im sure it would work).. if it does then great. cable is shit.
if it doesnt... well then im back to square one...

Posted by Indavic on Dec-27-2007 13:43:

if everyone else is still stumped like i am then.. well, thanks for the help anyways

Posted by derail on Dec-27-2007 23:27:

Yeah, I can't suggest anything else. Hopefully it works at your friend's place.

(When I suggested the Vengeance forums, I meant the user forums, which should have a lot of historical content about loading up Vengeance soundsets, from the users themselves - I didn't mean asking Manuel directly)