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Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Dec-26-2007 05:21:

moral hazard's evil twin

seriously, this fella in my hero.

anyone know who he is?

AKA "why atheism isn't a religion (for all you fucktards that keep saying it is)."

Posted by Moongoose on Dec-26-2007 12:02:

I love that guy.

http://www.patcondell.net/

Posted by MeLLyMeL on Dec-26-2007 14:18:

my boyfriend would really like this guy.

Posted by denys envy on Dec-26-2007 14:33:

quote:
Originally posted by MeLLyMeL
my boyfriend would really like this guy.

anyone care for gay jokes on this one?

no?

...ok then.

Posted by MeLLyMeL on Dec-26-2007 14:35:

quote:
Originally posted by denys envy
anyone care for gay jokes on this one?

no?

...ok then.
haha

like him for what he says***

Posted by denys envy on Dec-26-2007 14:40:

quote:
Originally posted by MeLLyMeL
haha

like him for what he says***

iiiiiii knooowwwwwwwww

Posted by bananas on Dec-26-2007 14:54:

i approve

Posted by D-res on Dec-26-2007 21:14:

yeah that dude is the shit. funny stuff

Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Dec-27-2007 02:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Moongoose
I love that guy.

http://www.patcondell.net/

thankyou!!

Posted by Clovis on Dec-27-2007 02:46:

I don't like his way of arguing.

Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Dec-27-2007 02:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
I don't like his way of arguing.

i like his ever-present cheeky look his eyes just sparkle with tongue-in-cheek. love it.

Posted by Clovis on Dec-27-2007 02:57:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
i like his ever-present cheeky look his eyes just sparkle with tongue-in-cheek. love it.

The guy from Top Gear is much better at this imo.

Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Dec-27-2007 02:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
The guy from Top Gear is much better at this imo.

yeah, jeremy is great. but he's arguing cars so im not quite as enthused

Posted by Clovis on Dec-27-2007 03:00:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
yeah, jeremy is great. but he's arguing cars so im not quite as enthused

Indeed. I just think this guy, while he has some valid points, fails. If he presented them better with arguments that were in fact difficult to refute, and not just "because thats completely absurd" etc, he might be a weapon.

Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Dec-27-2007 03:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
Indeed. I just think this guy, while he has some valid points, fails. If he presented them better with arguments that were in fact difficult to refute, and not just "because thats completely absurd" etc, he might be a weapon.

true, but im more infatuated with the general gist and humour of it all, rather than any inherent "correctness" of his position(s).

Posted by BTG on Dec-27-2007 04:43:

i still don't get the point of atheism. so you go around saying god isn't real, hoping that you're right, and if you are..all you get is death.

but if you're wrong? and there is life after death, you go to hell.

Pretty risky if you ask me.

Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Dec-27-2007 04:54:

quote:
Originally posted by BTG
i still don't get the point of atheism. so you go around saying god isn't real, hoping that you're right, and if you are..all you get is death.

but if you're wrong? and there is life after death, you go to hell.

Pretty risky if you ask me.

that's assuming it is a "choice" to be an atheist. i couldn't pretend to believe in god any more than i could pretend to enjoy drum and bass.

and i think the notion that jehovah would send me to hell for my lack of belief to be so incredibly ridiculous that it doesn't even warrant discussion

Posted by wizniz on Dec-27-2007 04:55:

atheism is necessary for balance.

how open-minded would a world full of believers be?
besides... as we already know, shit gets out of hand all the time.

Posted by BTG on Dec-27-2007 05:01:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
and i think the notion that jehovah would send me to hell for my lack of belief to be so incredibly ridiculous that it doesn't even warrant discussion

it's a perfectly warrented argument.

it says clear as day in the bible.

Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Dec-27-2007 05:10:

quote:
Originally posted by BTG
it's a perfectly warrented argument.

it says clear as day in the bible.

are you having me on or are you serious?

anyway, if you actually are serious, it also says that only 144,000 people will go to "heaven", so given how many souls have existed since the birth of the first monkey with a soul (ive always wondered when that was btw) that i doubt they'd have room for me anyway.

the type of people that believe in things like hell, are the only ones that could ever conceive of an almighty power (powerful enough to create the entire universe!) that would also possess such selfish jealousy to commit non believers to eternal torment. non-believers that he could have at his side in an instant if he ever bothered to give them ANY kind of evidence whatsoever

just ridiculous.

Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Dec-27-2007 05:11:

quote:
Originally posted by BTG
but if you're wrong? and there is life after death, you go to hell.

Which hell?

Posted by BTG on Dec-27-2007 05:18:

yes i am being serious.

look, i'm not trying to get all god on you in this thread. i'm just letting you know what the bible says.

i dont know where you're getting the obscure number of 144,000 from...but i've never read that in the bible.

i'm not an overly religious person, i've had my doubts, but there's just too many strange things that happen in the world and to me to just write off god like that.

Posted by iclone on Dec-27-2007 05:20:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Which hell?

fourth ring. fifth, if you fart enroute for extra propulsion.

Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Dec-27-2007 05:39:

quote:
Originally posted by BTG
look, i'm not trying to get all god on you in this thread. i'm just letting you know what the bible says.

oh yeah, and im certainly not accusing you of such! i know you wouldnt bother

quote:
Originally posted by BTG
i dont know where you're getting the obscure number of 144,000 from...but i've never read that in the bible.

that's what the jehovah's witnesses believe, and they are a very literal faith. basically, when it comes down to it, i can take any christian religion's teachings as law because there is nothing to distinguish any of the faiths, ie none of them is any more wrong/right than any other

but i assure you, the 144K number would be in there somewhere, even if it requires some "interpretation", the witnesses take everything they believe from the good book and only the good book.

Posted by BTG on Dec-27-2007 05:42:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
that's what the jehovah's witnesses believe, and they are a very literal faith. basically, when it comes down to it, i can take any christian religion's teachings as law because there is nothing to distinguish any of the faiths, ie none of them is any more wrong/right than any other

but i assure you, the 144K number would be in there somewhere, even if it requires some "interpretation", the witnesses take everything they believe from the good book and only the good book.

oh come on those guys are the worst. nobody takes them seriously.

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