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I'm no DJ but........

I think I could fake it better than this guy. Check out the bassist for New Order, Peter Hook, pretending to spin. This is the worst of the worst. Enjoy!!

old

but classic

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Originally posted by shuni old but classic

someone should tell him that wearing the headphones is part of pretending to dj

I beg to differ;

Peter Hook is a MASTER illusionist by comparison to; "World Famous DJ Ghislain Poirier!"

What? You've never heard of him? PLEASE!!

Watch the video clip and learn about the man, his music, his loathing of genre matching, beat-matching, seamless mixes, or use of headphones. He's breaking down old DJ stereo-types as we know them, with this "fresh" approach!

Be sure and read the description of the CDJ's for sale, then play the clip. It's not long at all....thank god! ;-P

(link-->>) DJ Ghislain Poirier ROCKS THE GARAGE PARTY!

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Originally posted by R!CH someone should tell him that wearing the headphones is part of pretending to dj

djing without headphone requires much skill. apparently peter hook really showed us all.

how about a closer look at his knob turning skills?

^^^lol...I like his dance moves. Kind of like "Nordic Track meets Middle-aged, Heavy, Sweating Guy with Thinning Hair", you could say??

I can hear him making some actual changes to the EQ in that clip. Good changes? Doesn't sound like they were. Hard to say in a camcorder recording though.

So is he truly faking his mixing then? In that clip, you didn't actually hear him transition from one song to another. I'm just curious about how he works. I know Steve Castro was famous in his early days at the Key Club for playing other people's mixed CD's as if they were his own (that was highly courageous of him, lol )...can anyone who's been up close and watched "The Hook", shed light on his "technique" (or lack thereof)?

this is quite possibly the dumbest shit i've ever seen. ever.


on a side note, paul oakenfold does the same kind of shit.

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Originally posted by bucke this is quite possibly the dumbest shit i've ever seen. ever. on a side note, paul oakenfold does the same kind of shit.

No, oakenfold mixes live.


sadly he should not as every mix he does is off beat.

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Originally posted by nchs09 No, oakenfold mixes live. sadly he should not as every mix he does is off beat.

at one point he used a pre-mixed cd

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Originally posted by nchs09 No, oakenfold mixes live. sadly he should not as every mix he does is off beat.

yeah instead of keeping his hands on the knobs so damn much he should spend more time actually trying to beatmatch.

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Originally posted by R!CH at one point he used a pre-mixed cd

so iv heard but somehow i doubt it....

but who knows. he was a very good mixer and turned into a super shit mixer.

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Originally posted by bucke on a side note, paul oakenfold does the same kind of shit.

Yes! Hook has TOTALLY stolen Oakie's "drama" for knob-turning! That whole "lean back and forth on it" thing that he does is a play right out of Monkey-Boy's book...only Oakie actually knows what the EQ is for and how to use it. Whereas Hook seems to be looking for something to do with his hands (besides eating) while on stage.

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Originally posted by nchs09 No, oakenfold mixes live. sadly he should not as every mix he does is off beat.

Exactly!

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Originally posted by donnybrasco So is he truly faking his mixing then? In that clip, you didn't actually hear him transition from one song to another. I'm just curious about how he works. I know Steve Castro was famous in his early days at the Key Club for playing other people's mixed CD's as if they were his own (that was highly courageous of him, lol )...can anyone who's been up close and watched "The Hook", shed light on his "technique" (or lack thereof)?

This is a great question?

I don't understand how a promter couldn't tell this is going on? does he just put in a cd and never change it through out the entire set?

I hear Gabriel and Dresden have there whole set pre-recorded in Ableton? Same type of thing... Lots of fake knob turning and jumping around... Any else heard of them doing that?

This guy is freakin retarded! But Im sooo jacking some of his moves tho! LOL

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Originally posted by skwallie djing without headphone requires much skill.

Not if the mixer has level lights.

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Originally posted by Clovis Not if the mixer has level lights.

true, but even if they were leveled on the mixer it doesn't mean it's leveled correctly on the master system. even if you have the cdj on auto cue, sometimes the lights won't catch the proper level or even the proper starting beat.

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Originally posted by senserecords I hear Gabriel and Dresden have there whole set pre-recorded in Ableton? Same type of thing... Lots of fake knob turning and jumping around... Any else heard of them doing that?

i thought they played on traktor. not sure though. dresden seems to do more of the mixing and gabriel does the cueing. i could be wrong.

imo, if you are producers that tours a lot to play gigs it's ok to play on things like traktor or ableton. it also depends on one person's lifestyle.

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Originally posted by skwallie true, but even if they were leveled on the mixer it doesn't mean it's leveled correctly on the master system. even if you have the cdj on auto cue, sometimes the lights won't catch the proper level or even the proper starting beat.

Put it in CDJ mode, move the cue point over a kick with the platter and press cue as soon as the level meter goes as high as it will.

I've only tried it a few times for fun, and it works. Of course it's not going to be perfect, but if you bring the track in slowly and listen carefully usually it isnt too hard to fix any small mistakes...

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Originally posted by Clovis Put it in CDJ mode, move the cue point over a kick with the platter and press cue as soon as the level meter goes as high as it will. I've only tried it a few times for fun, and it works. Of course it's not going to be perfect, but if you bring the track in slowly and listen carefully usually it isnt too hard to fix any small mistakes...

but that would require headphones right?

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Originally posted by skwallie imo, if you are producers that tours a lot to play gigs it's ok to play on things like traktor or ableton. it also depends on one person's lifestyle.

I have nothing against peeps using traktor or ableton. I use Ableton myself at home. What bothers me is when a dj/producer pushes play on his laptop then sits back and does the fake knob turning. I'm mean seriously - you can fit shit load of music on just a few CD's and how is that even remotely fun faking anything?

I would get bored and be forced to drink heavily

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Originally posted by skwallie but that would require headphones right?

Not sure we're on the same page here

You need a mixer with channel level indicators. No headphones required, cue like I mentioned, get the lights to pop at peak as close as possible, mix in slowly and listen, correct any error, and finish. Not the hardest thing ever, and made easier with CDJs that can give you a rough idea of bpm

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