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Posted by seawinde on Dec-28-2007 07:14:

Basics of HOUSE music ?

i am getting into production soon , but i want to know the basics

of house music ( Progressive and Tech mainly) ,

is it about BASS,BEAT,MELODY ?

how can i get guided in that issue ?

i am gonna be using FL till i buy a MAC or be using Linux


Posted by 3F05Q on Dec-28-2007 08:31:

Re: Basics of HOUSE music ?

quote:
Originally posted by seawinde
is it about BASS,BEAT,MELODY ?


yeah. that, and the hokey pokey are pretty much all it's about.

quote:
Originally posted by seawinde
how can i get guided in that issue ?


Well, if you aren't into production yet, then it'll be a while before you can get a sound you want. Strange wording, but I mean it.

It'll take quite a bit of experimenting with synths and samplers until you know how each parameter effects a sound in what way. Then, listen to your favorite song and try to replicate it. That's the best teacher. You ask yourself (after knowing what does what) "what do I need to do to get that bass to sound like that" and then either sell your soul and make that your style or you make your own style that stems from it.

Cheers!


Posted by ASFSE on Dec-28-2007 08:46:

basics of house music is sex


Posted by echosystm on Dec-28-2007 08:59:

Re: Basics of HOUSE music ?

quote:
Originally posted by seawinde
using Linux


fail

quote:
Originally posted by seawinde
how can i get guided in that issue ?


listen to songs you like, then try to reproduce similar sounds. this is what everyone does and there is no magic pill. for most people, it will take at least 2 years before you can produce anything beyond utter crap, so don't be in a hurry either.


Posted by Darkarbiter on Dec-28-2007 09:53:

Re: Basics of HOUSE music ?

quote:
Originally posted by seawinde
i am getting into production soon , but i want to know the basics

of house music ( Progressive and Tech mainly) ,

is it about BASS,BEAT,MELODY ?

how can i get guided in that issue ?

i am gonna be using FL till i buy a MAC or be using Linux

The basics of house music is most of all having sexy women in the video clip and an annoying melody that all the plebs will love.

Oh yes and vocals... nearly forgot that


Posted by seawinde on Dec-28-2007 09:58:

GUYS when i said house music i was generalizing , but i really mean

PROGRESSIVE HOUSE , TECH HOUSE AND (TECHNO AND MINIMAL LATER ON )

y no LINUX


Posted by BOOsTER on Dec-28-2007 11:28:

quote:
Originally posted by ASFSE
basics of house music is sex


no matter how strange it sounds, it really is truth...and not only for house


Posted by Chronosis on Dec-28-2007 12:26:

Re: Basics of HOUSE music ?

quote:
Originally posted by seawinde
is it about BASS,BEAT,MELODY ?


Do you know what those are?


Posted by seawinde on Dec-28-2007 18:06:

Re: Re: Basics of HOUSE music ?

quote:
Originally posted by Chronosis
Do you know what those are?


NO


Posted by jupiterone on Dec-28-2007 20:31:

untz untz untz untz untz untz untz untz
*in the beginning there was charlie chaplin*


Posted by system9 on Dec-30-2007 00:08:

quote:
Originally posted by jupiterone
untz untz untz untz untz untz untz untz
*in the beginning there was charlie chaplin*



Posted by Biatchzxz on Dec-30-2007 08:47:

I mean . A good bassline will def do the trick.. If u have a good catchy bass and add some toms hi rides and 100 other things and ull have gold.. Like everyone else said. the best thing is to really listen to a track that makes you wanna go back to your computer and starting making music. And try to remake it. Putting the kick clap hi hat bass snare shaker and all that to give you basic idea of whats up. Idk. thats my 2 cents


Posted by jupiterone on Dec-30-2007 08:53:

Make it catchy and addicting.


Posted by thoughtlessjex on Dec-30-2007 21:11:

quote:
Originally posted by palm
i always fail when i think i know what house is. dificult to make, even more dificult to listen to.

Inorite? I'm like this with techno and house. Whenever I try to make them, it just comes out sounding like boring trance.


Posted by Internet TufGai on Dec-30-2007 23:09:

Making dance music imo involves a lot of trial and error imo.

Once you know how the basic wave forms sound, how your filters work, etc, you gotta put 'em in place.

Well as for basics for house music, it involves a 4x4 kick, claps, hats, low bass, mid bass, lead, rhythm, lead, well, tbh, I don't know what to tell you, you have to listen to the songs yourself because there are exceptions to every "rule", and I wouldn't say they are rules but guidelines.

That's why TA, and I, couldn't give you a straight up answer after 2 pages. It's hard to describe sounds. We might seem like assholes who won't tell you the answer, but in reality it's hard to describe.


Posted by Nemesis44 on Jan-01-2008 10:19:

House and Trance although they are both 4/4 based are so different it's unreal.

In house music you can get away with less but that's not to suggest that making good house music is easy.

Trance will have a payload so to speak, it has a purpose and will build and try to take you to a climax. House music doesn't need this although you get people who break the trend which is always healthy.

House music is groove based, it relies on having good bassline driven loop which is enhanced by the additional percussion that will essentially dictate the percieved tempo/energy level in the track.
Just because house music can be more minimal than trance it doesn't mean that you will get away with poor arrangement.

Although doing a mixdown for a house track is potentially easier, House music needs to make sure that everything really gels together and sounds cohesive.
Compression is one of the fundamental elements in all dance music so it's a must that you know good compression techniques or it will be tough to get that tight groove sound that is so typical for house.

I know what some of the guys mean by describing it as sex in the sense that house music is very smooth and needs to have a sleak finish to it for it to sound convincing.

House has to have an element of funk even if it's not Funky house so it's probably worth checking out some Bootsy Collins or P-Funk as this should serve as a good inspiration for basslines and other groove related matters.

Just my two cents, not sure if I answered your question but it will give you a few things to think about. Feel free to ask if you want some deeper explanations.

Cheers
Nem


Posted by theognis1002 on Jan-02-2008 15:45:

sex and the groove!!

make it groovy and rhythmic!


Posted by Project-K on Jan-02-2008 15:58:

There once was a man named JACK, and JACK had a groove, and from this groove came the grooves of all grooves, and while one day visciousely throwing down upon his box, JACK boldly declared; LET THERE BE HOUSE! and house music was born...


Posted by seawinde on Jan-06-2008 10:19:

thanks ppl , special thanks to Internet TufGai and Nemesis44


Posted by Nicolas Oliver on Jan-06-2008 18:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Project-K
There once was a man named JACK, and JACK had a groove, and from this groove came the grooves of all grooves, and while one day visciousely throwing down upon his box, JACK boldly declared; LET THERE BE HOUSE! and house music was born...



Posted by RichieV on Jan-08-2008 07:14:

barf



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