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Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Dec-28-2007 20:57:

France is banning smoking

quote:
France is poised to extend its smoking ban to bars, cafes, restaurants and discos, but the measure will not be enforced fully until 2 January.

The health ministry said smokers would be allowed a 24-hour "grace" period for the New Year festivities.

The ban, which will also cover casinos and hotels, comes on top of a partial ban on smoking in public places that took effect in February.

Similar bans are already in place in Britain, Ireland, Italy and Spain.

The French health ministry said the wider ban, due to take effect on 1 January, would not be monitored strictly during the New Year festivities, in a gesture of "tolerance".

Any smoker caught flouting the ban thereafter faces a 450-euro (�332; $662) fine, while those who turn a blind eye to smokers on their premises can be fined up to 750 euros.

France has about 13.5 million smokers among its population of 60.7 million.

In February smoking became outlawed in French airports, railway stations, hospitals, schools, shops and offices.

The new ban is seen as a big cultural shift for France, where smoky cafes have long been the haunts of famous artists and philosophers. The ban does not include pavement tables or open-air terraces.

In 2004, Ireland became the first European country to introduce a comprehensive smoking ban in all workplaces, including pubs and restaurants.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7163178.stm


Posted by treeboo on Dec-28-2007 21:11:

private property rights


Posted by spc on Dec-28-2007 21:13:

13.5 out of 60.7 million.. thats almost 25% of the country! geez


Posted by Ygrene on Dec-28-2007 21:15:

I'll ban France! Believe that!


Posted by Zoso on Dec-28-2007 21:16:

Rasta

smoke 'em if you got 'em.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Dec-28-2007 21:19:

quote:
Originally posted by spc
13.5 out of 60.7 million.. thats almost 25% of the country! geez

That startled me as well, but apparently about 20% of American adults smoke, so I guess I shouldn't be that startled after all:

http://www.cdc.gov/od/oc/media/pressrel/r050526a.htm


Posted by Clovis on Dec-28-2007 21:24:

So fucking lame. Anytime France gets more American they should take that as a signal that someone fucked up.


Posted by blacknoizybox on Dec-28-2007 21:25:

smoking sucks.


Posted by jonSun on Dec-28-2007 21:26:

Chicago & Cook county pulled this shit last year. Now the west burbs county is pulling it too.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Dec-28-2007 21:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
So fucking lame. Anytime France gets more American they should take that as a signal that someone fucked up.



The U.S. doesn't have any national ban on workplace smoking.


Posted by Nostalgic on Dec-28-2007 21:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
So fucking lame. Anytime France gets more American they should take that as a signal that someone fucked up.


just curious, are you french born and moved over to america, are are you born in the states with french ancestry?


Posted by Clovis on Dec-28-2007 21:32:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles


The U.S. doesn't have any national ban on workplace smoking.



Most of the states do, and many cities and municipalities are banning smoking in public places.


Posted by Clovis on Dec-28-2007 21:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Nostalgic
just curious, are you french born and moved over to america, are are you born in the states with french ancestry?



The latter. I was born in LA, French Dad, Japanese American mother, lived in France for 2 years during high school.


Posted by jonSun on Dec-28-2007 21:33:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles


The U.S. doesn't have any national ban on workplace smoking.


well from what i understand the ban is public places including restaurants & bars.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Dec-28-2007 21:35:

quote:
Originally posted by jonSun
well from what i understand the ban is public places including restaurants & bars.

Some states have bans, but there isn't any national one. The first national ban was in Ireland (2004), as far as I know.


Posted by jonSun on Dec-28-2007 21:37:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Some states have bans, but there isn't any national one. The first national ban was in Ireland (2004), as far as I know.


Yep, here in Illinois its just a state wide ban.


Posted by Ian on Dec-28-2007 21:40:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Some states have bans, but there isn't any national one. The first national ban was in Ireland (2004), as far as I know.


it's illegal here now in establishments etc. it's funny watching them getting wet, cold & such just trying to have a fag.

Worst place is spain, it's so cheap there, everyone smokes & some of them are plain ignorant in eateries etc.


Posted by treeboo on Dec-28-2007 21:41:

Ohio also has a total ban except for private homes and outside (outside of a 50ft radius of a public building)


Posted by narcism on Dec-28-2007 22:01:

copy cats
just trying to be like the australians


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Dec-28-2007 22:03:

Bonjour, you cheese-eating surrender-monkeys!


Posted by Clovis on Dec-28-2007 22:07:

quote:
Originally posted by narcism
copy cats
just trying to be like the australians



Oh now you had to go and bring the kangaroos into this...


Posted by jupiterone on Dec-28-2007 22:07:

I can both agree with it and disagree. People should have a right to smoke wherever they please but at the same time not everyone wants to be in the presence of a smoker when they're busy eating a meal.


Posted by narcism on Dec-28-2007 22:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
Oh now you had to go and bring the kangaroos into this...


smoked kangaroo ftw


Posted by Ian on Dec-28-2007 22:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
Oh now you had to go and bring the kangaroos into this...


we really shouldn't have discovered them, eh


Posted by Clovis on Dec-28-2007 22:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Bonjour, you cheese-eating surrender-monkeys!



If you ran out of blue ink your flag would be white! humpf!




Yeah...that really was the best I could do...


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