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Roland SH 201 or Edirol PCR 300 w/ soundcard?

I use Ableton on a rather crappy laptop (1,6 GHz) and I thought that using an externa soundcard with a synth might get some extra CPU and better producing means.

On the other hand, the Roland JH 201 has its own soundcard and works as a standalone VST so no slowing down because of CPU.

What should I choose?

Re: Roland SH 201 or Edirol PCR 300 w/ soundcard?

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Originally posted by ponsshin I use Ableton on a rather crappy laptop (1,6 GHz) and I thought that using an externa soundcard with a synth might get some extra CPU and better producing means. On the other hand, the Roland JH 201 has its own soundcard and works as a standalone VST so no slowing down because of CPU. What should I choose?

SH201. Because every single synth parameter is labelled. No need to label the faders on your own.

Got one here. Sounds great.

One thing though, don't expect too much from that plug-in compatibility. You will experience latency, but not much though.

L.

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Originally posted by Lolo SH201. Because every single synth parameter is labelled. No need to label the faders on your own. Got one here. Sounds great. One thing though, don't expect too much from that plug-in compatibility. You will experience latency, but not much though. L.

Latency's due to the USB 1.O I guess. I tried it out for an hour and well, two oscillators are quite enough but you can't control the pitch of the two separately.

Is the audio input useful?
Can you save an audio sample as you can do with presets?
Is the arpeggiator worth something? Is it more like a rather limited Ableton arpeggiator or a more sophisticated one like in FM8?

Thanks L.

I'd probably get a novation x-station instead.

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Originally posted by ponsshin Latency's due to the USB 1.O I guess. I tried it out for an hour and well, two oscillators are quite enough but you can't control the pitch of the two separately. Is the audio input useful? Can you save an audio sample as you can do with presets? Is the arpeggiator worth something? Is it more like a rather limited Ableton arpeggiator or a more sophisticated one like in FM8? Thanks L.

there's a knob osc 1 and osc 2 which lets you control pitch, waveform and unison separately, so what are you talking about here? The pitch bend? That's correct behaviour, the pitch bend is a master midi controller, don't forget it.

The audio input lets you connect your computer outputs, it's quite useful when your synth is directly connected to your speakers.

The arp is fully programmable with the included editor, but this latter is a little tricky to program. Still I don't know why so many people find live 7 arp so limited. it's probably because they don't know how to use midi and audio racks.

And for what it's worth, the x-station is quite good too, but really hard to find here in Benelux and France, as it's been abandoned by novation.

Could you tell me what knob you're talking about?

Osc 1 and 2 have a common pitch knob of +12/-12 standing at the right of the waveform button so I don't see how I can control pitch separately.

Are you saying that I can set each LFO to modulate the pitch of one oscillator at no rate (constant pitch)? In that case that would suck to waste the LFO's for that.

u guys arent talking about the same thing. lolo meant the pitch-bend left to the pianoroll and u mean the pitch on osc2, are u saying that its not avaliable in the vst editor?

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Originally posted by ponsshin Could you tell me what knob you're talking about? Osc 1 and 2 have a common pitch knob of +12/-12 standing at the right of the waveform button so I don't see how I can control pitch separately.

when osc1 button is lit the knobs control osc1. when osc2 is lit they control osc2.

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Originally posted by ponsshin Could you tell me what knob you're talking about? Osc 1 and 2 have a common pitch knob of +12/-12 standing at the right of the waveform button so I don't see how I can control pitch separately. Are you saying that I can set each LFO to modulate the pitch of one oscillator at no rate (constant pitch)? In that case that would suck to waste the LFO's for that.

The big OSC1 or OSC2 knobs, can't you seen them? LOL You can even push the two at the same time and control everything for both at the same time too :-)

L.

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Originally posted by Lolo The big OSC1 or OSC2 knobs, can't you seen them? LOL You can even push the two at the same time and control everything for both at the same time too :-) L.

Honestly, no I don't see them .



That was the knob I had in mind. Let's say I setting OSC1 at -12. How am I gonna set OSC2 at +5?

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Originally posted by ponsshin Honestly, no I don't see them . That was the knob I had in mind. Let's say I setting OSC1 at -12. How am I gonna set OSC2 at +5?

you push on osc 2 and set the pitch to +5

i would like to hear supersaw demo sounds from sh201 can someone help?

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Originally posted by Lolo you push on osc 2 and set the pitch to +5

If I push the OSC1 button again and that i DON'T touch anything, does it screw up my OSC1 settings?

Thanks L, I know my questions seem very repetitive.

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Originally posted by supernewbie i would like to hear supersaw demo sounds from sh201 can someone help?

Here's the link to the JH 201 page, go to the sounds tabs and you'll find all the samples you want to hear.

http://www.rolandus.com/products/pr...769&ParentId=83

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