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Obama, Huckabee win big
The results are in!
Yeah, no surprise there. I do not think Huckabee will go far though.
A bible-thumpin state full of conservative farmers...supporting a black man named Obama. I was surprised.
The fact that he won in a state that is 95% white means Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are soon to be out of a job. 
Racism = dead
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| Originally posted by Capitalizt Racism = dead |
Some thoughtful commentary from our British cousins.
http://timesonline.typepad.com/usel...abama.html#more
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Final thoughts as we sift through the confetti and the wreckage of the first contest of the 2008 election. For the Democrats, Obama's victory (by about 38 per cent to Edwards' 30 and Hillary's 29) is well enough outside the three-way tie scenario to be truly significant. Change was the message, according to the entrance poll, from an astounding turnout of Democratic voters and they think - quite reasonably - that Obama, fresh and new, and not Hillary or Edwards, is the one to deliver it. This was a body blow for Hillary. The spin was that she was always going to have a tough time here and that was true. For a while back in the spring her campaign even pondered pulling out of Iowa. Her husband, remember, didn't really run here in 1992 and there was no Democratic contest in 1996. But she did run and she ran on a fairly simple premise that she was inevitable. If you run as inevitable and lose you really lose. And yet. It's only one contest. It's only Iowa. She will now unleash some furies in the next four days in New Hampshire, where voters do not necessarily follow the Iowa line. If she wins there she evens the contest and it's all to play for in Nevada (where she should win) and South Carolina and beyond. But she is in the fight of her life now. A brief word on Edwards. He needed to win here and he was a distant second. He won't quit immediately but he faces almost impossible odds. The next big question for him is when to pull out and to whom he should throw his valuable support. On the Republican side Huckabee was a big winner but Romney was a bigger loser. Like Hillary, Romney was a frontrunner with all the advantages and resources that entails. But he got soldily beaten by an upstart. His nightmare scenario was a poor second here and to have McCain - his main rival in New Hampshire - run a strong third. In the event McCain seems to have tied for third, but the result is still very ominous for Romney. Huckabee now has to prove that he is not just a likeable guy with a floating subliminal cross over his shoulder. Evangelicals pulled him to victory here but they won't do it in New Hampshire. Still, he only needs a respectable showing there now and have McCain beat Romney, which would probably finish Romney - and turn it into a two man fight through the primaries with McCain. Which leaves McCain. The man written off for dead two months ago is on the march. |
I like them both...
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| Originally posted by Krypton I like them both... |
Biden and Dodd dropping out!!!
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| Originally posted by Capitalizt A bible-thumpin state full of conservative farmers...supporting a black man named Obama. I was surprised. The fact that he won in a state that is 95% white means Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are soon to be out of a job. Racism = dead |
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| Originally posted by HardTranceProd Biden and Dodd dropping out!!! |
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| Originally posted by Krypton WHaaaa??! Biden's the shit!! |
From Kos: "57 percent of Obama's support is 17-29. It's awesome to see younger voters turning out. That's got to be the GOP's worst nightmare."
Over 220,000 Democrats turned out, and they usually only see 160,000. About 120,000 Republicans. The Democrats are in good shape no matter who wins the nomination.
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| Originally posted by Lesbianosaur From Kos: "57 percent of Obama's support is 17-29. It's awesome to see younger voters turning out. That's got to be the GOP's worst nightmare." Over 220,000 Democrats turned out, and they usually only see 160,000. About 120,000 Republicans. The Democrats are in good shape no matter who wins the nomination. |
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| Originally posted by Capitalizt I'm rootin for Obama He just gave an awesome speech in New Hampshire. His economic policies suck, but he would be an infinite improvement over the republicans on foreign policy and diplomacy. I'll gladly pay more taxes in exchange for bringing our troops home and making friends around the world rather than enemies.. |
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| Originally posted by MisterOpus1 And how 'bout that Paul fella? Woo. |
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| And Huckabee winning as predicted. And the Republicans are beginning to eat their own with a religious Right monster as their current frontrunner, as predicted. |
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| And thank God Hillary got third. Hopefully her momentum tanks (pretty please?!?!?!) |
Link to the results?
I don't think anybody expected Ron Paul to win tonight. Iowa is a Christian Coalition stronghold that loves farm subsidies and fears 'terrarists'. I was watching c-span before the vote, and the republican rooms were filled with elderly voters...religious conservatives who are set in their ways. They aren't ready for the revolution. 
New Hampshire is going to be the real test. It's a modern state with a diverse population. If Paul doesn't get 2nd or 3rd there, it's over. I think he has a very good chance of beating at least two of the "major" candidates though.
the witch is dead.
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| Originally posted by Capitalizt New Hampshire is going to be the real test. It's a modern state with a diverse population. If Paul doesn't get 2nd or 3rd there, it's over. I think he has a very good chance of beating at least two of the "major" candidates though. |
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| A CNN/WMUR New Hampshire poll shows Clinton with a 34%-30% lead over Obama. Edwards has 17%. On the GOP side, the poll has Romney and McCain tied in New Hampshire at 29%. Giuliani is third with 12%; Huckabee has 10%; Paul comes in fifth at 7%. |
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| Originally posted by eROs.au Link to the results? |
Hillary third & Ron Paul in front of Giuliani. 
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| Originally posted by Renegade He's polling less there than he got in IA. I mean realistically, which state is he likely to win? Are there any identifiable "liberatarian" states in the US? |
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| Originally posted by Capitalizt So this is obviously RP's best hope. |
i wanted fred thompson to get nominated. Anyone who can grace my screen for years as a guy paid so much to say so little is true president material. Plus i then expected a government with lennie briscoe in it (bless his soul)
Racism is definitely not dead. You must not live in the south. Racism is just like the civil war 'supposed to be dead' but not buried and still hanging around stinking up the place.
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| Originally posted by Capitalizt I don't think anybody expected Ron Paul to win tonight. Iowa is a Christian Coalition stronghold that loves farm subsidies and fears 'terrarists'. I was watching c-span before the vote, and the republican rooms were filled with elderly voters...religious conservatives who are set in their ways. They aren't ready for the revolution. New Hampshire is going to be the real test. It's a modern state with a diverse population. If Paul doesn't get 2nd or 3rd there, it's over. I think he has a very good chance of beating at least two of the "major" candidates though. |
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