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Posted by Lira on Jan-04-2008 04:14:

Happy Birthday Omega_M!!!1

वाढदिवसाच्या हार्दिक शुभेच्छा!!!!1ek

May all your wishes come true, and I hope I wrote that right


Posted by tubularbills on Jan-04-2008 04:14:

well, how about that. happy birthday.


Posted by UmmiE on Jan-04-2008 04:16:

Janum Din Mubarik Ho Maharaj.......


Posted by Frenchie on Jan-04-2008 04:17:

[something nice in your language]


Happy Birthday!! Hope your day is filled with goodness and not a drop less.


Posted by jupiterone on Jan-04-2008 04:17:

Happy happy happy happy happy happy happy joy joy!

Happy Birthday!


Posted by Omega_M on Jan-04-2008 04:18:

thank you guys

First three posts are in three different languages. First being my native language.


Posted by smakmagik on Jan-04-2008 04:25:

Tuchyaaa Ailaaaaaaaaa....

Happy Birthday boss...Have a brilliant one


Posted by Frenchie on Jan-04-2008 04:28:

and what is your native language called?



























(so I can google something and feel important)


Posted by Omega_M on Jan-04-2008 04:30:

Marathi


Posted by Chris Crossland on Jan-04-2008 04:33:

Happy Birthday man!


Posted by Lira on Jan-04-2008 04:33:

You know, my mind boggles at the fact that Marathi and English share a (recent) common ancestor


Posted by Boomer187 on Jan-04-2008 04:37:




happy bday


Posted by Omega_M on Jan-04-2008 04:38:

So all these languages are related ?

Spanish, English, Hindi, Portuguese, Bengali, Russian, German, Marathi, French, Italian, Punjabi and Urdu


Posted by Lira on Jan-04-2008 04:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_M
So all these languages are related ?

Spanish, English, Hindi, Portuguese, Bengali, Russian, German, Marathi, French, Italian, Punjabi and Urdu

Indeed, they are.

I'm going to finish transcribing some stuff here and I'll show you some interesting evidence afterwards


Posted by Frenchie on Jan-04-2008 04:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_M
So all these languages are related ?

Spanish, English, Hindi, Portuguese, Bengali, Russian, German, Marathi, French, Italian, Punjabi and Urdu


That's pretty damn interesting.


Posted by Omega_M on Jan-04-2008 04:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Boomer187



happy bday




Thank you


Posted by treeboo on Jan-04-2008 04:50:

Heh happy birthday man


Posted by Ted Promo on Jan-04-2008 05:03:

whatever Lira said!


Posted by Sushipunk on Jan-04-2008 05:06:

Happy Birthday Omega!

Hope you have a good one mate!


Posted by eRRaTiK on Jan-04-2008 05:11:

Bah weep grah weep ninni bong!


Posted by Intellekshual on Jan-04-2008 05:14:

Party Hat

Happy birthday!


Posted by Lira on Jan-04-2008 05:35:

Why Spanish, English, Hindi, Portuguese, Bengali, Russian, German, Marathi, French, Italian, Punjabi and Urdu are related

For simplicity's sake, I'm going to pick Sanskrit (from which Hindi, Marathi have evolved) and Latin (from which Portuguese, French, ... have evolved). I'll also try to avoid any kind of jargon and stuff - if it does sound complicated, though, do tell me, and I'll try to make myself clearer

Firstly, it's not rare for words with similar meaning to resemble one another. For example "Mirar" in Spanish means "to look", and so does the verb "Miru" in Japanese. However, once you analyse the languages more carefully, you can't see that happening systematically.

However, when you have entire systems that resemble one another, then you probably something going on. When you compare Sanskrit and Latin numbers, for example, you don't need to be a linguist to notice something strikingly similar between the two languages:











Latin NumbersSanskrit Numbers
1unus�ka
2duodv�
3trestr�
4quattuorcat�r
5quinquepa�ca
6sexṣ�ṣ
7septemsapt�
8octoaṣṭ�
9novemn�va
10decemd�śa


The numbers 2,3,4,7 and 9 are almost identical and, when there are more differences, linguists can count on a bunch of rules that explain how the sounds changed in each of these languages. Notice, for example, how the sound "e" in Latin often becomes "a" in Sanskrit.

However, that's not enough. If two languages are really genetically related (yup, that's the terminology), the grammar must also show some common traces. And, once again, you've got that: Words both in Sanskrit and Latin change according to their function in a sentence. For example, if you a rose is the subject of a sentence, in Latin, you say "Rosa". If it's the object, you say "Rosam". If something belongs to the god damn rose, you say "Rosae". And, this is the cool thing about Latin and Sanskrit. The way they do that is quite similar, and I'm adding Greek this time, just so you can understand how the changes "flow" accross languages:






LatinGreekSanskrit
GenusGenosGanas
GenerisGeneosGanasas
GenereGeneiGanasi
GeneraGeneaGanasu
GenerumGeneonGanasam


Did you find the common pattern? Well, let's consider "ganas, ganasas,..." the most conservative form. There's some evidence that intervocalic "s" fell in old Greek, and it became "r" in Latin. If you turn things back to what they probably were like, the similarities become even more obvious:






"Old" Latin"Old" GreekSanskrit
GenusGenosGanas
GenesisGenesosGanasas
GeneseGenesiGanasi
GenesaGenesaGanasu
GenesumGenesonGanasam


All these 3 languages treat their nouns the same way, and sound too much alike. You can assume that, if that's the case, they probably have a common ancestor (just like two brothers have the same parents). And, upon further inspection, that is the case.

So that's briefly how we know that Spanish, English, Hindi, Portuguese, Bengali, Russian, German, Marathi, French, Italian, Punjabi and Urdu are all related



edit: Why is there such a giant gap between the text and the tables!?


Posted by Inertia on Jan-04-2008 06:14:

vino, wine in spanish, is also wine in russian.

at least according to a clockwork orange


Posted by eRRaTiK on Jan-04-2008 06:19:

unf unf unf sounds the same no matter what language you speak


Posted by eROs.au on Jan-04-2008 06:20:

<3


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