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Going to NAMM, any questions?

[For those who don't know, NAMM is a music tradeshow. Almost every manufacturer of music hardware or software will be there answering questions about their products]

So, I'm going to the Winter NAMM on two days, the 18th and 19th. I know that most interesting things will show up around the internet (CDM and such) but I thought I'd post and see if anyone wanted me to check out anything specific and report back.

So, if you have a question about something you'd like me to ask, or keep an eye out for something in particular, I'll do my best to report back.

I'm definately going to ask about track folders in Live... or beat someone over the head with a Moog at the Ableton booth for not implementing them.

I'm going to try to hit on the chick from Shiny Toy Guns since they're going to be at the Roland booth, rawr.

Greetings from your neighbor just to the north! I'm sure the news will be out by then, but I'm dying to know what this new Spectrasonics product is going to be. They're making it sound like it's going to be something huge.

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Originally posted by cryophonik Greetings from your neighbor just to the north! I'm sure the news will be out by then, but I'm dying to know what this new Spectrasonics product is going to be. They're making it sound like it's going to be something huge.

Shoot, and I'm just transitioning to Seattle! Family is still down there, so it's still my 'hometown'. Would've been fun to collab.

Spectrasonics, noted.

If Image-Line are at NAMM, ask them if they intend on developing any of the following in FL Studio 8:

Proper dual/quad core support
Real sidechaining
Automatic plugin delay compensation

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Originally posted by echosystm If Image-Line are at NAMM, ask them if they intend on developing any of the following in FL Studio 8: Proper dual/quad core support Real sidechaining Automatic plugin delay compensation

According to the directory, Image Line will be there.

Echo, PM me with details/background, as I've never used FL Studio. What is the current situation on each of those 3 things, so that I can ask effectively?

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Originally posted by 3F05Q According to the directory, Image Line will be there. Echo, PM me with details/background, as I've never used FL Studio. What is the current situation on each of those 3 things, so that I can ask effectively?

At the moment, FL will only run VST instruments & a few other things on other cores. All FX and timestretching etc. are run on one core. Hence, multicore performance isn't good.

FL has no way of doing real side chaining, only using the peak controller which is not the same thing.

FL has no automatic plugin delay compensation, therefore it is impractical to use any high quality plugins that have a delay (you have to offset it manually).

I get the impression none of these will be done any time soon, because they don't want to fix all the fundamental coding problems in FL. I just want to hear what they say anyway. Actually, don't ask them if they "intend" on developing such things... Ask them WHEN they will develop them. No one has ever gotten a straight answer out of them, maybe you will succeed!

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Originally posted by echosystm No one has ever gotten a straight answer out of them, maybe you will succeed!

i will, I WILL SUCCEED!



k bye

Hello, would you mind asking about bezier curves @ Live ?
and yeah, don't forget to ask about track folders

Thanks

Oooh pretty please ask the Ableton peeps if any of the following will be implemented within this next century. Or if they are gonna ignore the wishlist on their forum and just implement new stuff people don't really need:

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- folder tracks - bezier curves (heck any curves) - absolute input for them nasty automation dots (they were considering this for Live 6) - snap to grid automation. although there is a small workaround for this, it would be nicer to have a snap for individual points - not entirely important, but dualscreen support would be ace

Don't forget to have some serious fun over there and to take some tasty pics of some gear and that Shiny Toy Guns chick

Thanks!

i had to give back my tickets because i'm with family this year (although i'd arguably feel more at home at NAMM). If Adam Audio is there can you find out if the P series is going to be updated at all in the next 6 mos?

thx dude!

Ask if anyone will sign my new track called Supertrance by TranceSuper

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Originally posted by G-Con Ask if anyone will sign my new track called Supertrance by TranceSuper

NAMM is a tradeshow where manufacturers set up booths and the guests are salespeople and store owners. Like SEMA, but with music gear and software.

DJ, do you work for a retailer or manufacturer?

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Originally posted by 3F05Q DJ, do you work for a retailer or manufacturer?

neither, i had artist passes from m-audio.

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Originally posted by 3F05Q NAMM is a tradeshow where manufacturers set up booths and the guests are salespeople and store owners. Like SEMA, but with music gear and software.

I was taking the piss

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Originally posted by G-Con I was taking the piss

... I'll take that to mean that you were joking. (honestly, at first I took it literally)

In that case I'll hit the *Ion booth and see if any DJ's will spin it live.

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Originally posted by 3F05Q Shoot, and I'm just transitioning to Seattle! Family is still down there, so it's still my 'hometown'. Would've been fun to collab. Spectrasonics, noted.

That's too bad - when are you moving? Seattle's a great town. My wife and I have several good friends there and we actually almost moved there a few years ago when she got offered a job, but the timing was no good for us.

Anyway, can you also stop by the Waldorf booth and check out the new Blofeld synth? Thanks!

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Originally posted by cryophonik That's too bad - when are you moving? Seattle's a great town. My wife and I have several good friends there and we actually almost moved there a few years ago when she got offered a job, but the timing was no good for us. Anyway, can you also stop by the Waldorf booth and check out the new Blofeld synth? Thanks!

Already there! But.. my stuff isn't (I'm having producer withdrawals)

Blofeld.. check.

I wouldn't mind going this year... does anyone know if any retailers or manufacturers are handing out passes??

Thats how I always got into NAB for freebs...

Yes please I've got a burning question..

It's for M-Audio....

Something along the lines of, "when the **** are you going to release NON-BETA, heck, ANY, 64-bit drivers for say.. all of your products?!"

It's been almost 3 years (in March) since they released beta drivers for my Audiophile Firewire for XP64 and they never went non-beta. I'd genuinely like to know if it's going to take them another 3 god damn years to release Vista 64-bit beta drivers only for them to abandon them and never release non-beta drivers?

Their webpage says "At this time, no M-Audio devices or divers are supported under Windows Vista 64-bit.... but please rest assured that supporting Vista is a top priority for us". I'd like to know how something that is truly a "top priority" takes over a year to get around to (they've only just released 32-bit drivers for one of their most popular product lines -- the delta cards). Especially when you consider that as a hardware vendor they should have had drivers in development for at least a few months prior to Vistas release like all the other manufacturers did.

Drivers for their products are the ONLY thing stopping me from jumping to Vista 64-bit currently, and have been for months now.... why is it that all the other hardware vendors can do it, but they can't?... hopeless.

Yeah

Alright, I'm flying out early, any other questions you want me to ask that would otherwise NOT be in a press-release or in standard web coverage? i.e.: "Hey Spectrasonics, why make us wait 8 months for your supersynth?" or "How's the gui for the Access Snow?"

I can check tomorrow night as well.

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Originally posted by 3F05Q Alright, I'm flying out early, any other questions you want me to ask that would otherwise NOT be in a press-release or in standard web coverage? i.e.: "Hey Spectrasonics, why make us wait 8 months for your supersynth?" or "How's the gui for the Access Snow?" I can check tomorrow night as well.

Can you ask Access if any of the annoying bugs will be fixed with the new OS? Like stuck notes, pops and clicks, unstable LFOs, going out of tune and losing sync...

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Originally posted by Eldritch Can you ask Access if any of the annoying bugs will be fixed with the new OS? Like stuck notes, pops and clicks, unstable LFOs, going out of tune and losing sync...

...Access (I'm refering to recent posts made by Marc on virusti.com) maintain that there are no problems with stuck notes (not sure about the other problems you mentioned), and that if you have this happening then you must have a hardware problem.... hmm

Oooh, I thought of something you could check out.. I'd like to know if Access have any plans for the TI's arp, i.e. the features and interface of the arp in VC (it's terrible), it seems to be quite a popularly requested improvement/update/change on their various fan webpages. Meh..

Have fun dude!

sorry, didn't have internet access this entire trip until now. Expect a massive update tomorrow.

BTW... Omnisphere is INCREDIBLE!!!

Alright, I TOTALLY flubbed on the Ableton booth. The wierd thing is those were questions that I wanted to ask for MYSELF! NAMM is TOTAL sensory overload. Way too many hair-band freaks walking around. Looks like too many people got artist passes. It was hard to have a conversation at times. Some of the larger manufacturers even had soundproof booths on hand to have meetings in.

Sometimes it was hard to get a good answer out of people. The first thing they do when you approach someone is they look at your pass. Mine said "Roland Corporation U.S." and "Visitor", so they either thought I was comparing or not worth their time, since I wasn't a store-owner/vendor.

I flew in on Friday and didn't sleep the night before at all. As of 11PM when I went to bed friday night, I had been awake for 37 hours STRAIGHT. So.. I did my best. Also, I didn't have internet access down there, so I forgot some of the questions. Pictures will come ASAP. (Including a 'jesus-pose' in front of NAMM)

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Originally posted by cryophonik I'm dying to know what this new Spectrasonics product is going to be.

Head on over to the Omnisphere thread for my massive update on this massive sounding synth: http://www.tranceaddict.com/forum/s...12&pagenumber=2

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Originally posted by echosystm If Image-Line are at NAMM, ask them if they intend on developing any of the following in FL Studio 8: Proper dual/quad core support Real sidechaining Automatic plugin delay compensation

Oh they were there. I finally found their 3 foot wide section of another booth after I had walked by it 8 times. The two guys were from Belgium, and I could HARDLY understand the guy (which is probably why nobody can get a straight answer out of them), so I'm 90% certain of the following:

APDC? No, Real SC? No, Multi-Core Support? Iffy, cuz he mumbled with his thick accent and I just couldn't deal with it anymore. You can only ask "What?" so many times before you start feeling like Lil' Jon and want to leave. I think the answer was no, but don't quote me on that.

Nice looking beatslicing though. He showed me the interface, and it was pretty slick!

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Originally posted by cryophonik Anyway, can you also stop by the Waldorf booth and check out the new Blofeld synth? Thanks!

This was sad. Really. Their 'booth' was in the basement with all the other super tiny booths, across from a couple of guys advertising their hip-hop produktion skillz. I threw on the headphones and couldn't hear it well at ALL. You see, most manufacturers had the output of their product fed into a headphone amp/splitter. So, I got frustrated and walked away. The unit itself looks nice. From what I'd read in another thread here, the price is good. I like it, if only for that.

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Originally posted by daveth M-Audio: Something along the lines of, "when the **** are you going to release NON-BETA, heck, ANY, 64-bit drivers for say.. all of your products?!"

Holy crap this was great! Twice I said to my buddy "hey, let's go back over to M-Audio and make 'em squirm."

First encounter: "I'd like to as you about driver development. When will you be releasing 64-bit drivers for your audio interfaces?" Rep: [does that whistle that starts high and drops in pitch, eyes go wide] "You know, they're working on that."

lose

Third encounter: [I approach a group of THREE reps as they're talking amongst themselves] "Excuse me, question for you. How is the development of 64-bit drivers going?" Rep: [as the two others just jump away] "Yeah... about that," [guy starts looking around] "you know I really can't say." [calls to other rep] "hey where's Les?" Then he took me to Les who told me a pre-recorded message about how they are currently in development and have absolutely NO timeframe. Me: "So are we talking on the scale of a month or a year here?" Les: "No way to know right now."

lose

Good times... good times.

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Originally posted by Eldritch and Daveth Issues with Virus

Sorry guys, didn't get those in time. Wish I had internet access more often. I DO know that they have an OS update coming out sometime soon, with beatslicing for external audio input that is fairly impressive. You may want to search for details on the latest OS update to see if it mentions anything else.

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Originally posted by nobody because It's my turn!

Went to the Ableton booth where they simply had monitors set up to loop the videos that we've all seen on their site. They did have some kind of presentation, but I'm sure it was just redundant. So in their booth area was Cycling '74 showing off MaxMSP. Now a short while back there was news of '74 and Ableton getting in bed together. I asked him about that and got "I'm not at liberty to say anything about that." Wierd... you're IN their booth. He asked what my musical intentions were and, after giving him some BS, he told me that I would one day ditch Ableton and come talking to him. Wow, nice 'partnership' or whatever it is they have going on. Guy seemed like a pretentious nutjob and he wouldn't stop talking. I wanted to leave, so I ran as fast as possible out of the Ableton booth. Probably why I forgot to ask about Live's stuff.

Stanton has a new digital interface for DJ's. Look it up on their site, as it's on the front page. $1500 for ONE of the turntable pieces, and something like $1200-$1800 for the mixer/audio interface. It has a GREAT set of options like assignable encoders, buttons, and velocity sensative pads on the turntables (which are motorized), but the only drawback is that pricepoint. It's WAY too pricey. 4000 and some hundreds of dollars? Joking?

Saw Stevie Wonder.. Awesome! He didn't see me though. Saw Jordan Rudess, which was cool too!

Roland has a new product... the V-Accordion. I still don't believe it. It feels like I saw it in a whacked out dream, because nobody would make such a thing. They have a big, if not majority, interest in Cakewalk now. Might see some big changes.

Shiny Toy Guns at the Roland stage was totally rad. They did a short 5-song set to showcase how they use Roland gear. Nice folks. I'm in love with the chick. Rawr. Not really, but she's super cute.

Biggest 'lose' moment: Electrix wasn't there. They're remaking some of their old products after a year or two or three or four hiatus. They had a rack-mount analog filter that could be controlled via midi, but you could hear stairstepping due to digital pots as part of the circuit. Wanted to see if this was addressed. Bummer.

I learned what not to do at NAMM... spend two 4 hour days there and not have a plan of attack. It's HUGE. Next time I'm going by myself with a list of questions, and THEN walking up and down isles to see everything. That would take forever, so I'd do 2-3 full days out of the 4 total.

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