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23 Minutes in Hell

If you get a chance please check this out�.
http://spiritlessons.com/
An incredible Testimony of Bill Wiese and his 23 minute trip to Hell. Bill was placed in Hell, not as a casual observer, but as someone who was not saved. He recounts all the horrid details with such precision that it captivates the listener from start to finish. If you haven't heard these testimonies, stop everything and hear them. They will permanently altered your outlook on life. My prayer life moved away from "Lord, bless me here and bless me there," to "Souls, Souls, Souls for Jesus" Jesus came to save us from unspeakable doom, and your love for Him will grow once you hear what He saved us from.

Didn't Dante already do this?

Re: 23 Minutes in Hell

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Originally posted by JClark Jesus came to save us from unspeakable doom

Cant be that unspeakable if that guy is supposedly speaking about them.

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The Bible is real plain, we are all sinners, and whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved. Jesus said if you will confess me before men, publicly, then I will in turn; confess your name before my heavenly Father and the Holy angels. But if you deny me before men, I will deny you before my Father. I want to ask you to do something. If you've never publicly, in front of other people, if you've never publicly declared Jesus Christ as your Savior, and made Him the Lord of your life, or if you're unsure whether heaven is your eternal home, remember Jesus hung naked on a cross, in a market place, he hung there for you, He endured your shame. If you'll pray this prayer from the depths of your heart, God will save your soul, and He'll give you an opportunity in the not to distant future for you to make it public. Pray with us, especially those who are in the congregation and know you should. "God I believe in You. You are my Creator. I am a sinner. I sinned in many points, willfully, and unconsciously. I've fallen short. I've missed the mark. I'm stained with sin. Jesus I believe in You. You are the eternal Son of God. You're the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world, who takes away my sin. I believe You died on a cross. Shedding Your innocent blood for my guilty soul. I believe You were buried and on the third day You arose. You are alive forever more. I call You my Lord. I call You my Savior. I give You my life. I will love You, serve you for the rest of my days. I belong to You, the good parts, the bad parts, the sinful parts, all my plans, all my dreams, I give everything to you. Thy will be done in me. I believe I'm saved. Not by good works, but by faith, by trusting in You. In Jesus I pray. Amen."

Don't worry about being good. Don't worry about helping people. Don't worry about being compassionate. All that shit in the Bible about giving to the poor and putting the last first? Nothing to do with Christianity. Apparently all that true Christians are obliged to do is cast a magic spell invoking Jesus' name every now and then and you're in. No questions asked. Doesn't matter how many millions of Jews you might have killed, you're cool with Jesus now.

I want to know at what point this fantasy intersects with the Christianity of history. I want to know how someone can read the New Testement and come out of it with the idea that their only moral obligation in life is to say "Jesus" when called upon to do so - fuck the poor, fuck the peacemakers, fuck the meek. So long as my fat, white ass gets into heaven, what the hell do I care?

Evangelicals are completely beyond reason, completely beyond hope. They need their fucking heads slapped... hard. That might not work either, but damn, it sure would be satisfying.

I really don't expect JClark to come back to discuss his own thread. Pity the spammer...(If he doesn't come back...)

Xtian propaganda.

//LOOK OUT!!!//

Well why should he, he registered to make this one single post, therefore doing his good deed for the day, ensuring that our souls are saved from eternal damnation since how can we all not drop down on our knees and start pleasing jesus ( ) after hearing that guys obviously genuine description of the worst 23 minutes in his life.

What a piece of shit fear monger.

To be perfectly honest I think you'd get used to it after a while. And lets face it, if Heaven is full of whackos like the guy there, I think I know where I'd rather end up!

omg i feel an instant PDD classic coming on with this thread. Mr JClark you obviously don't realize where you've chosen to spread your message

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Originally posted by josh4 omg i feel an instant PDD classic coming on with this thread. Mr JClark you obviously don't realize where you've chosen to spread your message

Only if JClark weren't a spammer, and would stick around!! Sure, this could get deep, but I'm not expecting it too..

I remember when i participated in an Ayahuasca Ceremony in the Colombian Amazon the Shaman explained to me and the people of his church his journey through the highest levels of Hell, im sorry i cant go into it in detail because ive forgotten exactly what he described just the feelings it evoked, and my spanish was only ok at the time. this was after he performed a spiritual cleansing on this man who had come from another city who was sitting in front of everyone with his shirt off, the Shaman spat this black stuff on his back, the man started vomiting, lost consciousness, fell off the chair and started convulsing in his own vomit.

all in all it was an interesting experience

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Originally posted by Krypton Only if JClark weren't a spammer, and would stick around!! Sure, this could get deep, but I'm not expecting it too..

well actually i was referring to making fun of his beliefs. fun at the expense of other peoples convictions is the best kind

How is this spam about hell a "political debate"?

Eesh. 23 minutes in hell eh? And let me guess; He came back with a souvenir that said;

"I spent 23 minutes in hell...and all I got to show for it is this lousy t-shirt!"

23 minutes in hell.... hmmm. Even if hell were to exist most theologists would agree that it (and heaven) are spiritual locations not physical. If they are not physical locations then physics would not apply, if physics does not apply then there would be no such thing as time in this location... therefore spending 23 minutes in hell is simply not possible. FYI, this is exactly why the Roman Catholic church no longer speaks about the afterlife in terms of time spent therein.

lol @ religious fearmongering... funniest shit ever!

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Originally posted by Lebezniatniko Didn't Dante already do this?

As did many people including Virgil, Homer, Ovid, etc.

From (the 4000+ year old) Epic of Gilgamesh, Tablet VII,

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(...) the House of Darkness, the dwelling of Irkalla, to the house where those who enter do not come out, along the road of no return, to the house where those who dwell, do without light, where dirt is their drink, their food is of clay, where, like a bird, they wear garments of feathers, and light cannot be seen, they dwell in the dark, and upon the door and bolt, there lies dust. On entering the House of Dust, everywhere I looked there were royal crowns gathered in heaps, everywhere I listened, it was the bearers of crowns, who, in the past, had ruled the land, but who now served Anu and Enlil cooked meats, served confections, and poured cool water from waterskins. In the house of Dust that I entered there sat the high priest and acolyte, there sat the purification priest and ecstatic, there sat the anointed priests of the Great Gods. There sat Etana, there sat Sumukan, there sat Ereshkigal, the Queen of the Netherworld. http://www.ancienttexts.org/library...gamesh/tab7.htm

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