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Bush to Israel - I don't need no stinking Intelligence!

Just get the stupid dumbass out of office, please?!?!?!?

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In public, President Bush has been careful to reassure Israel and other allies that he still sees Iran as a threat, while not disavowing his administration's recent National Intelligence Estimate. That NIE, made public Dec. 3, embarrassed the administration by concluding that Tehran had halted its weapons program in 2003, which seemed to undermine years of bellicose rhetoric from Bush and other senior officials about Iran's nuclear ambitions. But in private conversations with Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert last week, the president all but disowned the document, said a senior administration official who accompanied Bush on his six-nation trip to the Mideast. "He told the Israelis that he can't control what the intelligence community says, but that [the NIE's] conclusions don't reflect his own views" about Iran's nuclear-weapons program, said the official, who would discuss intelligence matters only on the condition of anonymity. Bush's behind-the-scenes assurances may help to quiet a rising chorus of voices inside Israel's defense community that are calling for unilateral military action against Iran. Olmert, asked by NEWSWEEK after Bush's departure on Friday whether he felt reassured, replied: "I am very happy." A source close to the Israeli leader said Bush first briefed Olmert about the intelligence estimate a week before it was published, during talks in Washington that preceded the Annapolis peace conference in November. According to the source, who also refused to be named discussing the issue, Bush told Olmert he was uncomfortable with the findings and seemed almost apologetic. http://www.newsweek.com/id/91673

January, 2009 just can't come fast enough. Get this twit out of office before he blows up something else. The enthusiasm for him leaving is palpable around the globe:

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But much of the enthusiasm comes from anticipation of President Bush�s departure, according to several analysts. U.S. prestige and popularity in much of the world have sunk to historic lows since Bush took office, over such issues as the Iraq war and climate change. Many analysts said the election has created high expectations that the new president will be more in tune with the rest of the world. �In many capitals people have been waiting for this change for some time,� said Rosa Balfour, a senior analyst at the European Policy Center, a Brussels-based research group. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...8011103413.html

Wipe this ass-stain off our record.

The occupation will continue, of course with US help...

The media will continue to show pictures of raving, screaming, burning effigies of US/Israel people without ever telling us why they are angry.

My head's about to explode in anger at the piece of shit government fucking up the world...

You watch and see what that asshole might do before he leaves office. Its a scary world we live in. I dont see it getting better either...

Re: Bush to Israel - I don't need no stinking Intelligence!

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 Just get the stupid dumbass out of office, please?!?!?!? January, 2009 just can't come fast enough. Get this twit out of office before he blows up something else. The enthusiasm for him leaving is palpable around the globe: Wipe this ass-stain off our record.

is this surprising anyone? who the hell cares about FACTS. they shouldn't be trusted. what matters is how you feel in your GUT. if you believe something to be true then it is because thats what you believe. all hail the lords of truthiness

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Originally posted by Chryz707 You watch and see what that asshole might do before he leaves office.

I can see it in his eyes that he is not done with the world just yet.

So if Bush is not forming his own views on Iran by using information provided to him by the intelligence community, what exactly IS he forming his views based on?!

^Religion

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Originally posted by George Smiley So if Bush is not forming his own views on Iran by using information provided to him by the intelligence community, what exactly IS he forming his views based on?!

way to sum up the last 8 years. that seems to be the million dollar question, and not being able to do anything about it, do you really want to know?

I think this sums up Bush's philosophy...

The way to stop (terrorism/competition over energy commodities) is to change "terrorist"/(rivals over commodities) regimes into an, shall we say, "ally". Preemptive regime change...

We've moved from defending democracy to imposing foreign democratic capitalism.

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Originally posted by Krypton I think this sums up Bush's philosophy... The way to stop (terrorism/competition over energy commodities) is to change "terrorist"/(rivals over commodities) regimes into an, shall we say, "ally". Preemptive regime change... We've moved from defending democracy to imposing foreign democratic capitalism.

Seemed to work for Japan.

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Originally posted by George Smiley So if Bush is not forming his own views on Iran by using information provided to him by the intelligence community, what exactly IS he forming his views based on?!

GOD

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Originally posted by Sykonee Seemed to work for Japan.

No. The Axis Powers clearly violated international law by violating countless sovereign countries. That was no preemptive war.

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Originally posted by Krypton No. The Axis Powers clearly violated international law by violating countless sovereign countries. That was no preemptive war.

*sigh* Political forum... no sense of humor...

Re: Bush to Israel - I don't need no stinking Intelligence!

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 Just get the stupid dumbass out of office, please?!?!?!? January, 2009 just can't come fast enough. Get this twit out of office before he blows up something else. The enthusiasm for him leaving is palpable around the globe: Wipe this ass-stain off our record.

If you read the report right, the NIE says Iran quit its nuclear weapons program, it does not say it quit its "peaceful" nuclear program, in fact it hints at the opposite.

The problem here is very much the same as with Iraq, even if they are not producing WMD they are violating the protocols and procedures to make sure such productions are not continuing.

Iran is clearly building a nuclear program, and it is not certain (except for the geniuses in the CIA) how quickly this could change to a nuclear weapons program.

Clearly Iran can not be taken at its word and is pursuing a very dangerous policy, which this and the next president will not be able to deal with lightly.

Surprising? The only one who wants war on this forum is a zionist . Serioulsy think about it for a second. How serious of a threat was Iraq? None. And how serious of a threat is Iran? None. How serious is the threat of Israel in the M.E. and her ally U.S.? BIGGEST threat.
It has only been the American's and Israelies for the majority of the problems and instability in the M.E.

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Originally posted by Yoepus If you read the report right, the NIE says Iran quit its nuclear weapons program, it does not say it quit its "peaceful" nuclear program, in fact it hints at the opposite.

And yet that contradicts so many statements this Administration has said up to the release of the NIE, ESPECIALLY when they knew ahead of time what the NIE was going to say (yes, Bush lied about when he knew about it, strange huh?).

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The problem here is very much the same as with Iraq,

Then thank goodness we stopped Bush's complete bullshit charge before he invaded without verifiable and supporting evidence of actual nuke WMDs then, right?

And no al-Qaeda connections, of course, which our Administration did know about ahead of time but invaded Iraq anyway.

And no yellow cake from Niger, of course, which our Administration did know about ahead of time but invaded Iraq anyway.

And no unmanned drones that could attack our coastlines within an hour after launching.

And while there is yet another dictator in Iran, his power is not even remotely close to that hapless dictator we overthrew in Iraq.

And no biological WMD mobile labs that will be used at any moment against us and our allies.

But other than that, yes I guess I can see your point about the desire of Iran to build nukes. And honestly I'm tired as hell of hearing that argument for the fucking Bush Doctrine of pre-emptive invasion for every fucking country that has some sort of desire or intent to be eeeeevil, because following that argument to its logical end would entail us attacking far too many countries to count, including some whom we have some very interesting business ties with and merely look the other way with their eeeevils.

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even if they are not producing WMD they are violating the protocols and procedures to make sure such productions are not continuing.

No doubt, and I don't deny this to be troublesome at all. What I do vehemently disagree with, however, is yet another possible boneheaded invasion rather than a diplomatic approach, something that's so incredibly foreign to this current Administration you'd think the word was spoken by martians, simply because they at one point in time were building a nuke program that even if it would have continued to develop would have been years away from completion. But as it occurs now, they only have an intent to build one.

I'd just rather try and actually have a little chat with them first rather than create any more fucking havoc there, far more than what we've already created, thanks.

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Iran is clearly building a nuclear program, and it is not certain (except for the geniuses in the CIA) how quickly this could change to a nuclear weapons program.

Then why don't we have a little intelligent discussion with them along with some multi-lateral worldwide pressure to get them to play nice, rather than put ourselves in situations where we are just egging and saber rattling at each other? Because it's clear that the latter is doing nothing productive at all.

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Clearly Iran can not be taken at its word and is pursuing a very dangerous policy, which this and the next president will not be able to deal with lightly.

Well with all due respect to this president, wait, who am I kidding? I have absolutely no respect for this current dipshit. I just want someone else, hell I'll take a couple of the Republican candidates, hell I'll take anyone who doesn't swear to the neocon flag, who can replace this recalcitrant turd in office and do something else than the current Middle East foreign policy.

Anyone, except maybe Giuliani, can handle foreign policy better than this president. The sooner he's out the quicker we can move on and start cleaning up the mess he's left behind.

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Originally posted by guerra-monstru Surprising? The only one who wants war on this forum is a zionist . Serioulsy think about it for a second. How serious of a threat was Iraq? None. And how serious of a threat is Iran? None. How serious is the threat of Israel in the M.E. and her ally U.S.? BIGGEST threat. It has only been the American's and Israelies for the majority of the problems and instability in the M.E.

exactly. Religious extremists in Israel and the US do not want peace. They�re as bad as the muslim extremists, no worse because they are more powerfully armed.

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Originally posted by Sykonee *sigh* Political forum... no sense of humor...

we try

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Originally posted by Chryz707 You watch and see what that asshole might do before he leaves office. Its a scary world we live in. I dont see it getting better either...

Nope, but we're all almost as much to blame.

Gotta cure the disease, not paliate the symptoms.

I just lol'ed

NO LOLLing in the PDD. This is serious business.

I'm morbidly curious to see how Bush will try to enter hostilities with Iran. Now that we're dangerously close to a recession, I'm sure the majority of Americans would be fervently opposed to another military campaign. But I wouldn't put it past ol' Bushy to pull some act or law out of his ass to make it happen. 2009 can not come fast enough.

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