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Posted by MessiahProject on Jan-14-2008 15:37:

Vocoding samples

Guys - Im confused..... (it doesnt take much believe me!)

Is it possible to recreate a vocoder sound (like daft punk - robotic style) using vocal samples.

For example - Im using Cubase, and want to change some vocal samples for a remix comp into vocoder style.

I have 'orange vocoder' but it just doesnt get the effect I desire (unless im using the vocoder completely wrong!)

Any help, instructions, ideas and which vocoder will be greatly appreciated. Oh - and if it involves me spending money, a sound clip of maybe a before and after would be greatly appreciated too!!

Thanks,

TMP


Posted by MessiahProject on Jan-14-2008 22:05:

Surely it cant be that hard!!??

Or does the silence mean -

a)I'm talking rubbish, or
b) It cant be done?

TMP


Posted by flutlicht junky on Jan-14-2008 22:50:

Got an example of the sound you want?

It is all about the carrier sound you are using - this will give the tones you want from the classic talkbox to some weird darlek voices etc


Posted by echosystm on Jan-14-2008 23:54:

daft punk don't really use vocoders, it's mostly talkboxes. i've never heard anyone get a talkbox sound out of a vocoder, with any carrier, but it might be possible with a few tricks. apparently talking through a harmonica works, but i can't see how haha.


Posted by 3F05Q on Jan-15-2008 00:58:

What you need, sir, is a bass kazoo.


http://www.captainkazoo.com/weird.html


Posted by mysticalninja on Jan-15-2008 01:50:

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
daft punk don't really use vocoders, it's mostly talkboxes. i've never heard anyone get a talkbox sound out of a vocoder, with any carrier, but it might be possible with a few tricks. apparently talking through a harmonica works, but i can't see how haha.


They said in an interview they use a different vocoder for every song.


Posted by echosystm on Jan-15-2008 04:58:

quote:
Originally posted by mysticalninja
They said



Posted by T-Soma on Jan-15-2008 06:00:

quote:
Originally posted by mysticalninja
They said in an interview they use a different vocoder for every song.


Doesn't mean that they didn't use a talkbox on the vocals and the vocoder elsewhere

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VX5v-S_jGD4


Posted by echosystm on Jan-15-2008 11:36:

Most people don't know what a talkbox is. Seeing as almost all Daft Punk tracks were blatant ripoffs (with a new kick and talkbox vocals), I don't blame them for claiming they only used vocoders. It stops people from discovering their "secret".


Posted by tekart on Jan-15-2008 12:11:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Xpy...feature=related


Posted by flutlicht junky on Jan-15-2008 15:02:

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
daft punk don't really use vocoders, it's mostly talkboxes. i've never heard anyone get a talkbox sound out of a vocoder, with any carrier, but it might be possible with a few tricks. apparently talking through a harmonica works, but i can't see how haha.


lol i had in my head for some reason the waves vocoder which has a talkbox preset but i forgot to explain this.

But even then a talkbox isnt a robot voice anyway. Some vocoding and ring modulation might work - maybe put the ring modulate on a send to still keep clarity?


Posted by MessiahProject on Jan-15-2008 15:36:

Ok, Ok,

To save confusion. I mean something like -

THIS

If i had a normal vocal sample - could I make it sound like something similar?

Thanks guys,

TMP


Posted by echosystm on Jan-15-2008 22:15:

quote:
Originally posted by MessiahProject
Ok, Ok,

To save confusion. I mean something like -

THIS

If i had a normal vocal sample - could I make it sound like something similar?

Thanks guys,

TMP


I actually can't tell 100% with that one! :/

The actual sound has a bit of a talkbox character, but it is quite bassy. Talkboxes can only do high freq sounds because they use a tweeter, which would blow up if you tried haha. I'd say this is a vocoder.

Anyway, you could make something "similar" or good enough, yes. You just need to find the right vocoder and the right carrier.


Posted by DJ Blitzkrieg on Jan-15-2008 22:22:

Vocoders just take two sound files on a separate channel and mix them together. So yes, it definitely can be done.



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