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Hey yankees, your steaks are cloned

Welcome to the beginning of the end.

Source: the Washington Post
Other source: Wsj

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FDA Says Clones Are Safe For Food Report Finds No Evidence of Risks Cow clone The Food and Drug Administration has concluded that milk and meat from cloned animals, such as these cows, should be allowed on the market. That stance has raised a debate over whether food from clones that are raised organically could still carry the organic label. By Rick Weiss Washington Post Staff Writer Tuesday, January 15, 2008; Page A01 A long-awaited final report from the Food and Drug Administration concludes that foods from healthy cloned animals and their offspring are as safe as those from ordinary animals, effectively removing the last U.S. regulatory barrier to the marketing of meat and milk from cloned cattle, pigs and goats. The 968-page "final risk assessment," not yet released but obtained by The Washington Post, finds no evidence to support opponents' concerns that food from clones may harbor hidden risks. But, recognizing that a majority of consumers are wary of food from clones -- and that cloning could undermine the wholesome image of American milk and meat -- the agency report includes hundreds of pages of raw data so that others can see how it came to its conclusions. The report also acknowledges that human health concerns are not the only issues raised by the emergence of cloned farm animals. "Moral, religious and ethical concerns . . . have been raised," the agency notes in a document accompanying the report. But the risk assessment is "strictly a science-based evaluation," it reports, because the agency is not authorized by law to consider those issues. In practice, it will be years before foods from clones make their way to store shelves in appreciable quantities, in part because the clones themselves are too valuable to slaughter or milk. Instead, the pricey animals -- replicas of some of the finest farm animals ever born -- will be used primarily as breeding stock to create what proponents say will be a new generation of superior farm animals. When food from those animals hits the market, the public may yet have its say. FDA officials have said they do not expect to require food from clones to be labeled as such, but they may allow foods from ordinary animals to be labeled as not from clones. Opponents of the approval, including some concerned about the welfare of the clones themselves, expressed dismay upon learning about the FDA's intentions. Joseph Mendelson, legal director of the Center for Food Safety, a Washington advocacy group that petitioned FDA to restrict the sale of food from clones, said his group is considering legal action. "One of the amazing things about this," Mendelson said, "is that at a time when we have a readily acknowledged crisis in our food safety system, the FDA is spending its resources and energy and political capital on releasing a safety assessment for something that no one but a handful of companies wants." Others countered that public opinion and politics should play no bigger role in the decision on clones than it should in the approval of a drug or a contraceptive. "In fact, cloned animals have been studied much more than naturally produced animals," said Cindy Tian, who has analyzed milk and meat from clones at the University of Connecticut. "We have more data on them than for any other animal that we eat."

i wouldnt describe the current "meat" at our caf as "wholesome" by any means


bring on the clones! yar!

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Originally posted by d-miurge Welcome to the beginning of the end.

Beginning of the end of what?

That's great and all but I don't see the logic.. It takes more work to make a clone, AND clones have shorter lives than originals.. guess it doesn't matter too much if you're just going to end up as a hamburger anyway. poor clones.. I mean.. Mmmmm, clones!!

quick! someone translate this "ca va bien" might be a bit simple. hahaha.

Im tryin to talk french to this one hoe.

Buzzkill; nvm. This chick is no longer around. =|

I'm against this, tooth and nail, but I have yet to see anyone propose that cloned meat as a bad thing to actually support it with evidence. Take a look into how they make ground beef. You are eating recycled parts of an animal that are fed parts of their own dead...


Edit: Take a look into CJD and how it is spread. That's a pretty solid argument FOR cloning. We'd never have to worry about mad cow from england or canada...

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Originally posted by Fibonacci I'm against this, tooth and nail, but I have yet to see anyone propose that cloned meat as a bad thing to actually support it with evidence. Take a look into how they make ground beef. You are eating recycled parts of an animal that are fed parts of their own dead...

yup! .. lol circle of life..

tough call on whether cloned animals and animal products are any less safe to consume, though i imagine they'd be fundamentally the same. feeding same species animals to one another though, is obvious fodder for mad cow disease (x_x). sucks

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Originally posted by Blake That's great and all but I don't see the logic.. It takes more work to make a clone, AND clones have shorter lives than originals.. guess it doesn't matter too much if you're just going to end up as a hamburger anyway. poor clones.. I mean.. Mmmmm, clones!!

yeah that's now. but in a few years when the clone technology is solidifed, they'll be able to make clones consistently faster than the animals can actually reproduce. i have no problems with this, but it's the longer outlook for the future that boggles my mind. think about it - eventually they'll be cloning humans ... now that's a whole new can of worms.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Beginning of the end of what?

Civilized mankind as we knew it since the Greeks. Imho.

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Originally posted by StanVoid yeah that's now. but in a few years when the clone technology is solidifed, they'll be able to make clones consistently faster than the animals can actually reproduce. i have no problems with this, but it's the longer outlook for the future that boggles my mind. think about it - eventually they'll be cloning humans ... now that's a whole new can of worms.

+1 . I don't think cloned food is that serious. Clones are made of the same nucleotides and polypeptides that originals are composed of *shrugs*.

I don't think cloning humans is too serious either. When they start genetically engineering humans, I'll raise an eyebrow..

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Originally posted by d-miurge Civilized mankind as we knew it since the Greeks. Imho.

*tear*

As if im going to fucking read any of that, but im not a yankees fan. SF Giants fan here.

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Originally posted by d-miurge Civilized mankind as we knew it since the Greeks. Imho.

You mean western Greek-Roman Civilization, which by the way has in no way been consistent since the days of the Greeks anyways. Useless romanticism if you ask me. Then again you could always transport yourself back to Athens and have raging drunken pedophilic homosexual orgies with them Greeks

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Originally posted by venomX You mean western Greek-Roman Civilization, which by the way has in no way been consistent since the days of the Greeks anyways. Useless romanticism if you ask me.

Useless ignorance if you ask me. For you Christianism hasn't been consistent that much in the past centuries and nowadays? They share a same frame of thought.

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Originally posted by d-miurge Useless ignorance if you ask me. For you Christianism hasn't been consistent that much in the past centuries and nowadays? They share a same frame of thought.

Christianism encompasses a broad and large very differentiated number of sects. The only thing consistent with Christians as a whole is that they all believe in the resurrection and truthfully I don't see how greeks, Christians and cows are related? Maybe the slaughter?

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Originally posted by venomX Christianism encompasses a broad and large very differentiated number of sects. The only thing consistent with Christians as a whole is that they all believe in the resurrection and truthfully I don't see what greeks, Christians and cows are related? Maybe the slaughter?

Resurrection of steaks?

So, do the anti-cloned meat people have any arguments for why eating cloned cattle would be a bad thing? Or is this just kind of a gut reaction?

LOL @ thread title.

Awesome! The perfect steak, again and again.

we've been cloning everything else - DVD's, mp3's, technology products, etc. This is just the first step into the organic field for cloning, but the concept is still the same!

Thank goodness I'm vegan.

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Originally posted by chadi Thank goodness I'm vegan.

you think vegetables are harder to clone than animals?

This is a step in the right direction

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Originally posted by StanVoid you think vegetables are harder to clone than animals?

lol

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