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MDMA Article from SF Chronicle

From the San Francisco Chronicle today.

http://www.sfgate.com/columnists/morford

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Guess which drug is illegal? One deadens nerves, barely works, has foul side effects. The other helps you feel God By Mark Morford, SF Gate Columnist Friday, January 18, 2008 Over here we have a new drug. It has one particularly unfortunate side effect: It makes you fat. Or rather, fatter, given how most patients who take it are already quite overweight to begin with. But that's not all. Other nasty side effects include dizziness, confusion, sleepiness, severe edema (swelling and oozing), among others. What fun. But hey, at least it works, right? Well, no, not really. It apparently works only about half the time, if that, and even then it doesn't work very well and it certainly doesn't actually cure anything or treat any of the potential causes of your illness or address any of the deeper biological/psychological issues at hand and, in fact, only "works" (they guess, but don't actually know) by essentially numbing the central nervous system and therefore merely blocking out what your body is trying to tell you. Sort of like saying the light hurts your eyes and then taking a pill to make you go blind. There now, all better. This new drug is called Lyrica. It's from Pfizer, and it was just approved by the FDA to treat an awful, inscrutable condition known as fibromyalgia, an is-it-or-isn't-it illness distinguished by all-over bodily pain the causes of which no one can figure and which few are really sure is even a real disease, per se, given that there's no biological test to diagnose it and no way to accurately validate its existence and given that it has all sorts of seemingly unrelated, scattershot symptoms, like irritable bowel (another suspect ailment) and ringing in the ears and, well, just about everything else. No matter. After years of doubt as to its effectiveness (and fibromyalgia's existence), Lyrica has been approved, and fibromyalgia has been more or less legitimized. Pfizer stands to make billions, as do the other pharmco titans who are begging the FDA to let them make expensive new drugs to treat this strange condition that no one seems to understand � drugs which may actually exacerbate the condition � but which clearly has enough patients who seem to be suffering from it even though they might very well be suffering from something else entirely. Ah, the pharmaceutical industry. Tremendous amounts of good, underscored by giant bolts of shameless, exploitive, predatory evil. Isn't it fascinating? Over here, another drug. This one's been around awhile. World famous, beloved by millions, controversial for all the wrong reasons. It is currently very, very illegal. Producing and selling it in any quantity can result in severe punishment, years in prison. It has been deemed highly dangerous, potentially toxic, even lethal, and for years the government and the Centers for Disease Control and your own mother have issued all sorts of lies and alarmist B.S. about it, like how it drains spinal fluid, induces brain aneurisms, makes you vote Libertarian. Which is not to say taking it doesn't have its random dangers, but, you know, please. This drug is famous for producing incredible feelings of euphoria, openness, warmth and love and happiness in almost everyone who takes it. It is staggeringly effective, non-addictive, and when taken somewhat responsibly and with a slight hint of intelligence, has very few, if any, notable or permanent side effects. Its positives border on miraculous. It can effortlessly break down long-held psychological barriers, remove obstacles to communication and stifled emotion, make patients/users feel open and happy and much better able to handle stress, anxiety, all manner of trauma. It gets better. Some of the deeper emotional breakthroughs it produces last for weeks, months, or forever. Truly, entire loving relationships have been launched based on the deep bonding and raw emotional honesty a couple discovers while on it, and in many cases, those feelings become the foundation for long-term marriages (or, by way of the same raw honesty, encourage the end of unhappy, dying ones). Oh yes � this drug also frequently induces profound, life-changing spiritual awakenings, can eradicate neurosis, increase feelings of empathy and forgiveness and peace and overlay it all with an increased love of music and sensual pleasure. Thank God it's illegal. This drug, as you've already guessed, is MDMA, or ecstasy. It has finally, after years of governmental ignorance and lack of balls/foresight/integrity in the psychiatric community, earned tacit approval for a precious handful of clinical psychiatric trials. Initial results? Turns out this scary illegal drug just might work wonders for treating post-traumatic stress disorder. Gosh, really? Yes. As reported by the Washington Post and the Guardian, as far as PTSD alone is concerned, some docs already see MDMA as potentially life-saving, a true wonder drug, which might even be administered to all our traumatized U.S. soldiers. Which could be good news indeed, given how an estimated 24 million Americans suffer from PTSD, whereas only a fraction of that number claim to have fibromyalgia. Oh, but there are problems. Major drawbacks. Terrible, unspeakable, anti-American issues that seriously trouble our drug-addled nation. Foremost: MDMA is not patented. Its formula is not owned by anyone. Hence, no single company (or handful of companies) stands to make billions from its potential legalization and the government cannot tax it and organized religion cannot control the power it has to help you totally reject its inane dogma, and they all really, really hate that. What's more, millions of people already take MDMA recreationally, for the sheer pleasure and joy of it, making it a huge threat to all authority everywhere, because God knows we can't have lots of people feeling peaceful and empathetic and nonviolent, as opposed to fearful and victimized and angry and sick sick sick, all those things governments and religions rely on to keep you meek and beaten down and in check. I know what you're thinking. That's a dangerous oversimplification, Mark. Read the literature! Ecstasy is scary! People can overdose! "Moderation" is not in America's DNA! With the possible exception of extreme PTSD cases, we should probably keep MDMA illegal forever � you know, just like that other toxic, wildly addictive drug that causes thousands of deaths every year, along with liver disease and violence and spousal abuse and trauma and impaired judgment and unwanted pregnancy and frat boys and which you can order as much as you want right now in any bar in the world. Oh wait. Maybe it really is just that simple, just that odious. One drug, nasty and of hugely questionable value, essentially designed to numb your body and mock your spirit and shut you down like a land mine shuts down a cat, is legal. Another drug, relatively safe, enormously effective in how it opens you up like a flower and pours white hot life straight down your throat and helps you feel God without forcing you to kneel before, well, anything at all, is violently illegal. And thus doth the brutal irony of the capitalist machine floweth over once again. It is, you could say, just another tale of the tense, vicious battle ever raging between the government/corporations/church, all of whom seek to control and profit by murdering any notion you may have that you might be far more powerful, divinely connected, empathetic than you imagine, and the humane, common-sensical universe of peaceful reality. Do you know that fight? Do you ever sense that common sense is losing? I have a suggestion for something you might want to try.

good article... it's encouraging that it's actually been approved for some trials. it could probably help out some people psychologically

good read. Thanks for the link.

Spot on.

Word.

Articles like this always play with my emotions. It gives me false hope that one day substances like these will actually overcome their social stigmas.

awesome article...100% true

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Originally posted by Andrieux "...when taken somewhat responsibly and with a slight hint of intelligence, has very few, if any, notable or permanent side effects..."

Well, that's the only part I take issue with. From what I've read and heard, there is damage caused to receptors in the brain that control serotonin up-take, if I recall correctly.

But how serious it is, I too have my doubts, as the FDA and the medical community like to engage in scar tactics sometimes. They'll tell you weed is bad for you (which it is), but that's too literal; Smoked over time and in great quantities, it's bad. Smoking now and again isn't going to kill you.

But I'm all for legalizing MDMA, and many other drugs. Our society would actually be a safer place; No drug money to fund gangs would lead to less inner-city crime. We wouldn't need as many Police probably as a result. Jails would be less congested, and the need for new ones would be less. Cops would then be able to focus on catching REAL criminals, and courts could put them away for longer. We could tax the drugs too and help off-set our own taxes in the process, etc...and the list goes on.

good read indeed....

Great way to start the weekend, LOL!

AMEN BROTHER! AMEN!

I want some x right now.

Wouldn't this mean E-puddles at Starbucks?

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Originally posted by donnybrasco Well, that's the only part I take issue with. From what I've read and heard, there is damage caused to receptors in the brain that control serotonin up-take, if I recall correctly.

I believe this happens when you abuse the drug. If you take in moderation, your levels go back to normal within a short period of time.

I'm not sure, I could be wrong. Was a long time ago I read the study.

The key is finding it clean. When you find it laced with stuff, that's when it really screws up your body.

although I agree, i think its a pretty shitty article.

he's putting MDMA on a pedestal and putting down whatever that other drug is and spitting out words without really backing them up.

but its an opinion piece.



(and don't flame me for saying that because I agree and it will hurt my feelings)

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Originally posted by montie (and don't flame me for saying that because I agree and it will hurt my feelings)

I've got just the pill for your hurt feelings.

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Originally posted by DaveT I believe this happens when you abuse the drug. If you take in moderation, your levels go back to normal within a short period of time. I'm not sure, I could be wrong. Was a long time ago I read the study. The key is finding it clean. When you find it laced with stuff, that's when it really screws up your body.

+1 I believe you are correct. All the "holes in the brain" stuff stemmed from a singular case of heavy abuse.

Everything in moderation.

i wish that all the brainwashed, government-tainted people out there would read this...

if the majority of people would actually do some research rather than sitting on their fat asses drinking another beer to go w/ their mcdonalds they would actually see that it is not as bad as they thought... i hope more articles like this get published in the near future

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Originally posted by DaveT I believe this happens when you abuse the drug. If you take in moderation, your levels go back to normal within a short period of time. I'm not sure, I could be wrong. Was a long time ago I read the study. The key is finding it clean. When you find it laced with stuff, that's when it really screws up your body.

the study that showed damage to seretonin uptake and production was later retracted because the drug samples used were in fact METH and not mdma. the damage done to public perception, though, is still lingering around. the government, DARE, etc of course made nowhere as big a deal about the retraction as about the study, no surprises there.

which underlines another irony: Meth itself, highly addictive and with numerous well-demonstrated negative physiological effects, is a fucking prescription drug along with other amphetamines in the form of ADD and anti-depressant medicines. what the fuck, FDA?

of course the problem is that 99% of us are not swallowing much MDMA when taking a pill. Of course legalization would clean this up. Otherwise, id have to say street pills are not healthy at all.

molly wafers ftw!

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Originally posted by fury molly wafers ftw!

+1

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Originally posted by djjoshuaallen of course the problem is that 99% of us are not swallowing much MDMA when taking a pill. Of course legalization would clean this up. Otherwise, id have to say street pills are not healthy at all.

E-Z test kit. $50.

But seriously... this thread is making me hungry.

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Originally posted by progressiveMOJO the study that showed damage to seretonin uptake and production was later retracted because the drug samples used were in fact METH and not mdma. the damage done to public perception, though, is still lingering around. the government, DARE, etc of course made nowhere as big a deal about the retraction as about the study, no surprises there. which underlines another irony: Meth itself, highly addictive and with numerous well-demonstrated negative physiological effects, is a fucking prescription drug along with other amphetamines in the form of ADD and anti-depressant medicines. what the fuck, FDA?

Oh that's right. How did I forget that.

Many of you have probably seen this, but here it is anyway. It's a special Peter Jennings and prime time did on E. The "hole in the brain" conclusion was reached by a single scientist who has since retracted his study. It's covered in the special.

Once the government creates fear associated with a certain drug (scientifically sound or not), it is very difficult to undo.

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