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Leafs Actually Cursed?

I dont know. Last week things were looking good. They were losing. The current idiots running the organization were being exposed and fuck they go 3 wins in a row then battle decently against New Jersey tonight......

I mean ideally i want them to win but realize that for this team to actually contend to win it all (and why would i want to watch a team contend for just an 8th spot in the playoffs?) they need to finish last in the league, trade sundin for assets, draft well next season, hopefully have traded away more of these bad contractsover the summer and have hired a proper hockey descision making president.....but if they stay in near distance of 8th spot they will stand pat and stay how they are.....GARBAGE!

Why cant they just keep losing?
Can they actually be cursed to mediocrity for years to come?



Discuss



ps. exciting football games are still pretty boring

They're not cursed. It's a simple matter that no one in Toronto actually cares how well the Leafs do - they'll continue supporting them, going to their games, and selling out the ACC. They could be dead last in the league (which they're not far off from), and people would still go. Other cities, it's not like that - their teams needs to actually win to keep the people interested in the sport of hockey, otherwise they'd lose a tremendous amount of money. To the Maple Leaf franchise, there's little incentive to draft good players and good coaches to try to win the cup.

I was so happy last week to see reports that they want to get rid of ferguson. It is just ridiculous now, so depressing to watch them. It kind of reminds me of Newcastle in the premiership. A crappy team that for whatever reason sees themselves as a huge club. hahaha before we can get good again, we need to recognize that we are absolute losers

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur To the Maple Leaf franchise, there's little incentive to draft good players and good coaches to try to win the cup.

I don't think it's the lack of trying to draft good players, but Leafs scouting department needs to be fired.

Plus Leafs trade away way too many draft picks and always pay too much for a trade.

I'm still a Leafs fan (if I bother to follow hockey nowadays which I rarely do) but too much mediocrity makes me cringe in terror.

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur They're not cursed. It's a simple matter that no one in Toronto actually cares how well the Leafs do - they'll continue supporting them, going to their games, and selling out the ACC. They could be dead last in the league (which they're not far off from), and people would still go. Other cities, it's not like that - their teams needs to actually win to keep the people interested in the sport of hockey, otherwise they'd lose a tremendous amount of money. To the Maple Leaf franchise, there's little incentive to draft good players and good coaches to try to win the cup.

but is that all theyre concerned with?
filling seats?

i mean damn what about leafs tv....general tv viewership? even radio.
are people watching every game on tv or listening? why would people want to bring sadness into their lives ? lol

and honestly the theory that theyre content with regular season sales is plain bullshit. they want playoff revenue. the teachers are blood suckers in this case

Even Leafs fans say the Leafs suck.
The evidence is conclusive.
Leafs suck.
After 40 years, how can anyone not agree with that?
Only when Leafs fans and corporate ticket owners give up on the Leafs and stop going to games, that management will finally do something about it. And when is that going to happen?

It's time to give up.

When management finally does something, I might finally pay attention.

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Originally posted by illestofdananas i mean damn what about leafs tv....general tv viewership? even radio. are people watching every game on tv or listening? why would people want to bring sadness into their lives ? lol

my mom does watch every game and gets just as pissed off every time they lose, but knows full well unless they make changes they have no hopes in hell. This year though, my parents have stopped going to Leaf games live cuz they don't want to pay the money to continue to watch their team lose. But my parents are only 1 in how many other fans that will still support them til the bitter end.

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Originally posted by Abercrombie Even Leafs fans say the Leafs suck. The evidence is conclusive. Leafs suck. After 40 years, how can anyone not agree with that?

67!!!
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If the New York Rangers were able to break their longer curse. I'm sure Toronto is due...

keep it in this thread

http://tranceaddict.com/forums/show...1&forumid=12&s=

just fire John Ferguson and hire Bryan Colangelo

Playoff games are where sports teams in general really start to make money. I can't even imagine how much Leaf's playoff tickets would cost. Nathan raises a really good point here. If they do have the constant fan support and will continue to fill the arena regardless of how good or bad the team is....why don't they clear shop and put a winning product on the ice and go a couple rounds in the playoffs? I don't know what the actual revenue figures would be but I don't think it would be unreasonable to say that going to the conference finals would bring in an extra 10-20 million dollars (and I think I may be low balling it here).

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Originally posted by slingshot

Each player gets a bonus too

We were discussing this very topic at work last week, and my manager made a comment; Toronto is not a hockey town, it is a Leafs town.

Diehard fans, and there are plenty of them, support them no matter how they perform.

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur To the Maple Leaf franchise, there's little incentive to draft good players and good coaches to try to win the cup.

The incentive for MLSE is and always will be money.....making the playoffs just creates millions of dollars more in their pockets.

The problem is too many chiefs trying to make decisions...none of which have any clue about hockey. MLSE has to get a true hockey person to be in charge...someone who doesn't have to report to the board on every single decision they want to make. Scotty Bowman is the perfect candidate for this but MLSE doesn't want to give up control....and until they do...the leafs are doomed to sit in the lower half of the league.

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Originally posted by slingshot I don't know what the actual revenue figures would be but I don't think it would be unreasonable to say that going to the conference finals would bring in an extra 10-20 million dollars (and I think I may be low balling it here).

Typically, the average profit per home playoff game is $1 million.

Re: Leafs Actually Cursed?

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Originally posted by illestofdananas ps. exciting football games are still pretty boring

Not sure what games you were watching yesterday, but they were nowhere near what I'd consider boring. The NFC Championship was one of the most exciting games I've seen in a long time.....

p.p.s. - The Leafs suck balls. Until they decide to.....

1.) Fire Ferguson.
2.) Blow up the entire squad, trading for future draft picks.
3.) Put people with good hockey minds in charge of drafting/scouting.

.... I will continue my anti-support for this lack luster franchise.

This organization doesn't give a fuck about winning the cup. All they care about is putting a half decent squad together each and every year, that is good enough to maybe squeak into the playoffs, so all the die-hard fans can say 'ohhhh, we almost made it.... next year.'. Retarded.

Toronto has a team that has done all the right things to put them in a position to win.... They're called the Raptors.

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Originally posted by zokissima Toronto is not a hockey town, it is a Leafs town. Diehard fans, and there are plenty of them, support them no matter how they perform.

The core of the problem.

Sure the front office execs arent hockey ppl and we know its just a business for them...
But if this quote wasn't accurate, action would have been taken LONG ago

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Originally posted by TheVrk The core of the problem. Sure the front office execs arent hockey ppl and we know its just a business for them... But if this quote wasn't accurate, action would have been taken LONG ago

Its not diehard fans that fill the ACC every game....its corporations that fill the seats so even if the diehard fans stopped going to games and stopped buying merchandise and all that other crap the ACC would still sell out every game....heck....every corporation that has tickets could give up their tickets and there would be 18,000 more corporations waiting to buy them.

The leafs have been mediocre for so long that they always end up with middle of the pack first round picks at draft time. After the top 5 picks its basically a crap shoot as to who will and won't make it in the NHL and even those players are most likely second or third liners. The leafs cannot improve in the modern NHL without going in the dumps for a few seasons.

Like it has been said, the players and the organization doesn't give a shit about winning. Because people will still watch and people will still sell out every game. It's sick. It's almost like leafs fans want the leafs to lose to have something to bitch about every morning.

Leafs fans, get it through your heads, THEY ARE LAUGHING AT YOU. You pay for the ridiculously prices seats, you watch every game and commercials (super ad revenue), you walk around in the jerseys and coats and they don't even have to win! HA HA. I would be laughing too. Leafs Nation is a sad bunch. There would be nothing to talk about if they were actually winning.

go habs go

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess Like it has been said, the players and the organization doesn't give a shit about winning. Because people will still watch and people will still sell out every game. It's sick. It's almost like leafs fans want the leafs to lose to have something to bitch about every morning. Leafs fans, get it through your heads, THEY ARE LAUGHING AT YOU. You pay for the ridiculously prices seats, you watch every game and commercials (super ad revenue), you walk around in the jerseys and coats and they don't even have to win! HA HA. I would be laughing too. Leafs Nation is a sad bunch. There would be nothing to talk about if they were actually winning.

It is a bit of a bone of contention in our house... Adam being a lifelong Leafs fan and me thinking they are the most pathetic bunch of over-paid, badly managed professional sport players the world has ever seen...

TOFC. 4 letters, the future of Toronto sport.

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Originally posted by NuERA go habs go

I may not be a leafs fan but you want a sharp punch to your upper arm for this blasphemy, Andrew.

I have been a leafs fan my entire life...what it has done to me is lowered my expectations and made me good at making excuses. What I have learned in over 30 years of being let down by the Leafs (yes...I'm that old)is the following:
1) The Leafs are run like a business, not a professional sports team - they are owned my the teachers pension plan...nuff said. They will NEVER win the cup while the OTPP owns them
2) The top brass from the MLSE organization knows SFA about running a hockey team - that is why Scotty Bowman would not accept the senior consultant role unless they were fired.
3) The Leafs always play to the level of the team they are playing against. They can be a great team, but when playing a crap team...they play crap for some reason. This is REALLY frustrating
4) Even when they are crap, the fans still show up....so there is no rush to change anything. If the Raptors aren't doing well, then the fans stop coming and the team makes a lot less money - so something gets done.
5) Through all of this - I somehow still remain a Leafs fan, so I guess I'm part of the problem.

Go Leafs Go!

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