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Posted by mysticwave on Jan-27-2008 16:03:

Teaching with Trance

Living in a small town in Ontario during the late 1990�s, few people were aware of trance music. As a high school student I always felt compelled to incorporate trance music when I was required to give class presentations. A number of years later and I have found myself on the other side of the desk. As a History and English teacher I managed to successfully introduce my students to the genre of trance music. At the start of the semester I played the trance anthem classic, �Questions must be asked� by David Forbes. In teaching these subjects I challenged my students to become critical consumers of course material and to ask questions for clarification or confirmation. At the end of the semester I played the track �Answers� also by David Forbes. With this track I hoped that the students would indeed have made connections with the course material and that the material they have pondered and contemplated would have in fact yielded answers. Figure those who have an appreciate for our beloved music would appreciate its potential educational and entertainment value within the context of a more formal educational institution!


Posted by Project-K on Jan-27-2008 16:20:

lol


Posted by Ishkur on Jan-27-2008 16:38:

Please immediately cease and desist the practice of violating your position of trust and power to preach your musical evangelism to your students in an attempt to convert them to your personal interests.

Stick to course content for now on.

Thank you.


Posted by Ted Promo on Jan-27-2008 16:40:

so you're basically saying it taught them nothing but provided awkward background music to some power point?

Awesome!


Posted by Project-K on Jan-27-2008 16:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
Please immediately cease and desist the practice of violating your position of trust and power to preach your musical evangelism to your students in an attempt to convert them to your personal interests.

Stick to course content for now on.

Thank you.


That's what I said, but in fewer words.


Posted by Ted Promo on Jan-27-2008 16:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Project-K
That's what I said, but in fewer words.


It wasn't even a word.


Posted by GoSpeedGo! on Jan-27-2008 16:45:

So what are the good tunes for teaching?

I'd suggest some old-school.


Posted by isoterra on Jan-27-2008 16:46:

quote:
Originally posted by paulandrews
So what are the good tunes for teaching?

I'd suggest some old-school.


go sit in the corner & think about what you've done


Posted by RebeL9 on Jan-27-2008 17:06:

Re: Teaching with Trance

quote:
Originally posted by mysticwave
Living in a small town in Ontario during the late 1990�s, few people were aware of trance music. As a high school student I always felt compelled to incorporate trance music when I was required to give class presentations. A number of years later and I have found myself on the other side of the desk. As a History and English teacher I managed to successfully introduce my students to the genre of trance music. At the start of the semester I played the trance anthem classic, �Questions must be asked� by David Forbes. In teaching these subjects I challenged my students to become critical consumers of course material and to ask questions for clarification or confirmation. At the end of the semester I played the track �Answers� also by David Forbes. With this track I hoped that the students would indeed have made connections with the course material and that the material they have pondered and contemplated would have in fact yielded answers. Figure those who have an appreciate for our beloved music would appreciate its potential educational and entertainment value within the context of a more formal educational institution!


LOL! Are you sure you are a teacher? As a teacher myself I know that that kind of pedagogical methods would never pass through here. You would simply disqualify yourself as a teacher and get rejected instantly. Also I make no connection whatsoever between the stuff you educate and the music. And third a teacher is responsible of being objective in his education. Pushing your own taste of music on them is not very objective.


Posted by hkaliher on Jan-27-2008 17:43:

are you on pills when you teach?


Posted by thoughtlessjex on Jan-27-2008 19:52:

Trance is not the most pedagogical of music, you know.


Posted by body125z on Jan-27-2008 21:14:

teach them alphazone


Posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs on Jan-27-2008 21:46:

thread of the year.


Posted by body125z on Jan-27-2008 21:59:

quote:
Originally posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs
thread of the year.

nah its still january


Posted by MaxC on Jan-28-2008 02:53:

Question Re: Re: Teaching with Trance

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
LOL! Are you sure you are a teacher? As a teacher myself I know that that kind of pedagogical methods would never pass through here. You would simply disqualify yourself as a teacher and get rejected instantly. Also I make no connection whatsoever between the stuff you educate and the music. And third a teacher is responsible of being objective in his education. Pushing your own taste of music on them is not very objective.

I can't help but feel that some people are overreacting here just a bit. Can someone explain to me how playing two songs during the course of a semester makes someone a poor teacher? Granted the whole meaning behind the song titles and such seems a bit cheesy, and I doubt playing the tunes had any real effect on learning, but what is the crime here? I think that sharing your creative tastes with students in a brief and informal manner might, if nothing else, establish a rapport with those students with similar interests. I see no negative impact and certainly would not put it on the same plain as espousing political views or whatever other biased indoctrination is being associated with the playing of two songs. I had a history teacher in high school who played music at the start of class every day (usually 60's and 70's rock), and my taste in music was never altered one iota. Nobody was offended, and the teacher was certainly not laughed out of the building or chastised for lacking professionalism. Heaven forbid students should be jarred from the daily routine with a bit of novel art every now and then...


Posted by Darkarbiter on Jan-28-2008 02:58:

Smiling Frog

Well I can see how techno might help people in maths. However trance? Were you teaching them to express their feelings in poems?


Posted by |Thrax| on Jan-28-2008 03:22:

dodododododododododoodododododododoo


put your HANDS IN THE AIR its time to study! check out this psychedelic presentation!


Posted by nefardec on Jan-28-2008 03:32:

compared with the sorts of things one could be learning in school, trance music has virtually no artistic or educational value


what a waste of time.


leave brainless dance music as their escape from school, not as subject matter


it's party music and no more, and full of shallow, aggrandized, soulless stepchildren of emotions


Posted by julien2 on Jan-28-2008 05:00:

We are anonymous.

We do not forgive

We do not forget.

Screw scientology, lets take down teachers teaching trance


Posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs on Jan-28-2008 05:17:

Re: Re: Re: Teaching with Trance

quote:
Originally posted by MaxC
I had a history teacher in high school who played music at the start of class every day (usually 60's and 70's rock), and my taste in music was never altered one iota.

I see the hippy's ways have rubbed off on you...


Posted by SuspicionVandit on Jan-28-2008 05:37:

wow, that's crazy. I do the same thing with my Criminal Justice class.
boomp3.com


Posted by Mr Game+Watch on Jan-28-2008 21:23:

In college, I had an art teacher who would play all this annoying free jazz during drawing sessions. What made it all the more ironic was that my teacher was a minimal producer (this was back in 2000, years before minimal became so massive and commercialized) on a first name basis with Richie Hawtin. I asked him to play some of his stuff but he was like "I don't think it'll be everyone's cup of tea". I would've rather minimal than free jazz :P

The teacher's name was Mike Parker, name ring a bell to any of you minimal fans?


Posted by mysticwave on Jan-28-2008 21:49:

Interesting comments thus far

Some interesting and insightful comments on the topic subject. I understand that many people have very different perspectives on the role of a teacher in a classroom. If you consider a teacher a mere tool to transmit information then I can understand why you may feel that such activities don�t belong in the classroom. However, spending a few minutes of a class to engage students focused on using unique teaching techniques to educate students is of great value. Making connections within the classroom results with transferable skills. If you genuinely feel that using music as an educational tool detracts from academic excellence then perhaps your perspective on formal education is archaic.


Posted by PETRAN on Jan-28-2008 22:03:

These two tracks by David Forbes were good, lol. I have to say though that two banging/uplifting stadium trance tracks are not the greatest choise for an English class IMO! Maybe if you used more gentle/artistic music such as ambient or minimal-symphonic (Steve Reich?) or something? Although i can't really get how that aids/assists in learning?


Actually i remembered that the great Experimental Social-Cognitive Psychology researcher Dan Wegner of Harvard university was doing something similar...famous for his experiments on thought supression, mental control and the illusion of conscious will, Wegner is starting his classes with...techno!

(from an official interview)


Wegner does more than play the piano; he has four synthesizers and a couple of drum machines at home, and he spends much of his free time composing techno-music -- fast, rhythmic, with a little blues and rock influence.

He starts his classes at Harvard with music -- playing an eclectic range of CDs, including whatever his students bring into class. "You pick up to about 130 beats a minute, it gives the whole class a kind of energy they wouldn't have otherwise," he says.



!!!

source:

http://www.hno.harvard.edu/gazette/...3-freewill.html


So, maybe two banging epic trance tracks is not a bad choice after all! If it is for the pusposes of "Class-awakaning" why not start your classes with Gabba?!?!?


Posted by noikeee on Jan-28-2008 22:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Ted Promo
It wasn't even a word.


"laughing out loud" is three words.


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