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Posted by PezCore on Jan-27-2008 17:31:

Legality issue

If I buy a compilation, for example Psychedelic Academy mixed by Astrix, I know I can legally rip those tracks has personnal backup, or even download them from illegal sites and play them out, because I own the original.

But would it be legally acceptable to get the FULL version of the tracks via for example illegal download sites, and play them out at gigs ? I mean, I paid for the compilation with those tracks on it, but am I legally entitled only to play those exact edit versions of the tracks ??


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jan-27-2008 17:46:

Re: Legality issue

quote:
Originally posted by PezCore
But would it be legally acceptable to get the FULL version of the tracks via for example illegal download sites, and play them out at gigs ?

No.


Posted by Meat187 on Jan-27-2008 17:50:

Re: Legality issue

quote:
Originally posted by PezCore
But would it be legally acceptable to get the FULL version of the tracks via for example illegal download sites, and play them out at gigs ?


Congratulations! You win today's stupid question award.


Posted by PezCore on Jan-27-2008 21:24:

well, as far as I know, you can download mp3s that you have an original copy of the track, even if it's from an illegal source


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jan-27-2008 21:30:

quote:
Originally posted by PezCore
well, as far as I know, you can download mp3s that you have an original copy of the track, even if it's from an illegal source

What does that have to do with anything?


Posted by flavdave on Jan-27-2008 21:36:

quote:
Originally posted by PezCore
well, as far as I know, you can download mp3s that you have an original copy of the track, even if it's from an illegal source


Why would you want to?


Posted by RebeL9 on Jan-27-2008 21:55:

LOL! What have happened to TA lately? Have all the lemmings from trance.nu flooded over here?


Posted by Allied Nations on Jan-27-2008 21:58:

Supposing you you bought the tracks and let's say - left them at home, I think downloading them via another means is morally perfectly acceptable.


Legally however, probably not.


Posted by isoterra on Jan-27-2008 22:04:

Re: Legality issue

quote:
Originally posted by PezCore
But would it be legally acceptable to get the FULL version of the tracks via for example illegal download sites, and play them out at gigs ? I mean, I paid for the compilation with those tracks on it, but am I legally entitled only to play those exact edit versions of the tracks ??


you're legally entitled to make an exact copy of what you own. when you download the full versions, you're obtaining different versions rather than exact copies, so no. morality is the only thing in dispute here


Posted by isoterra on Jan-27-2008 22:06:

quote:
Originally posted by flavdave
Why would you want to?


if you own the vinyl & want to get a higher quality cd rip, perhaps?

again not legal, since it's a different copy to what you could make yourself. whether it's morally acceptable or not depends on who you ask though


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jan-27-2008 22:09:

quote:
Originally posted by isoterra
if you own the vinyl & want to get a higher quality cd rip, perhaps?

What are the chances of that happening?


Posted by isoterra on Jan-27-2008 22:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
What are the chances of that happening?


considering i did it only yesterday for a gig i played last night i'd say pretty much certain


Posted by PezCore on Jan-27-2008 22:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
What are the chances of that happening?


Well I always download all the tracks I own on vinyl, because I know eventually after a lot of plays, the quality of the record will degrade, and you can still listen to the mp3 file, which is not only acceptable, but perfectly legal, if the mp3 file itself is a vinyl rip


Posted by PezCore on Jan-27-2008 22:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
What does that have to do with anything?


Well I was answering to Meat187 saying I was a dumb fuck


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jan-27-2008 22:22:

quote:
Originally posted by isoterra
considering i did it only yesterday for a gig i played last night i'd say pretty much certain

Uh, okay... I'll just assume I'm missing something here.
quote:
Originally posted by PezCore
Well I was answering to Meat187 saying I was a dumb fuck

But what you answered with had nothing to do with anything.


Posted by PezCore on Jan-27-2008 22:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
But what you answered with had nothing to do with anything.


Well yeah, he said I was being stupid to ask this question: "Would it be legally acceptable to get the FULL version of the tracks via for example illegal download sites, and play them out at gigs ? **assuming I own the original**"

So yeah, I think my answer make sense

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
LOL! What have happened to TA lately? Have all the lemmings from trance.nu flooded over here?


I seriously begin to find people at trance.nu a lot more friendly, they don't bitch people in half of the threads each day


Posted by body125z on Jan-27-2008 23:03:

quote:




I seriously begin to find people at trance.nu a lot more friendly, they don't bitch people in half of the threads each day


welcome to TA


Posted by RebeL9 on Jan-27-2008 23:21:

quote:
Originally posted by PezCore


I seriously begin to find people at trance.nu a lot more friendly, they don't bitch people in half of the threads each day


because they are busy wanking off to Tiesto in every damn thread. that's why.


Posted by isoterra on Jan-28-2008 00:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Uh, okay... I'll just assume I'm missing something here.


like alot of people i know, i generally don't play vinyl anymore except on rare occasions when messing around in my room. when playing out i only use cds & wanted a few old tunes to finish my set last night, seeing as i had the closing slot.. a couple of which i only had on vinyl. so i had a choice between recording my own rips from a dusty old vinyl/aging stylus/mediocre soundcard, or obtaining fresh unscathed CDS/album rips from DC++...

wasn't too much of a hard choice after adding it up. done it numerous times before too


Posted by Spacey Orange on Jan-28-2008 01:41:

even if it is, it's not like anyone's going to catch or sue you. :]


Posted by Darkarbiter on Jan-28-2008 02:55:

Having the extended edit on a compilation does not mean you own the radio edit.

However who gives a shit


Posted by shaw on Jan-28-2008 18:04:

Re: Legality issue

quote:
Originally posted by PezCore
If I buy a compilation, for example Psychedelic Academy mixed by Astrix, I know I can legally rip those tracks has personnal backup, or even download them from illegal sites and play them out, because I own the original.


LOL.


Posted by basilisk on Jan-29-2008 21:53:

The laws vary from country to country. Here in Canada we have the copying levies... so technically you can copy what you own to a backup without penalization. Downloading stuff you already own is in a legal grey area (as are most of the other things you talk about) but of course, who is going to care?

Serves you right for buying a mixed CD anyhow :P



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