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Posted by stev�sto on Jan-30-2008 16:30:

Beatport decides to cut the crap!!

THANK GOD! its about time ...

In a move bound to please overwhelmed digital cratediggers in the United States, Beatport has announced that it will be more carefully curating the US portion of its site with new minimum revenue requirements for labels.

Reports surfaced last week that the service expected each label to reach a minimum of $300 per quarter in gross revenues. If an imprint failed to meet that benchmark, the label would be put on probation and forced to make more than $600 in revenue in the following quarter or its content would be removed from the site.

Ronny Kreiger, Beatport's Vice President of Content, stresses, however, that the guidelines are not a hard and fast rule. If a label has "a proper plan and structure...a unique quality sound�and fits with the repertoire we represent", Kreiger explained, there would be no reason for the US Label Management Team to take the label down from the store.

Quality control problems at Beatport are largely seen as a byproduct of the site�s popularity, and it�s an issue the site has tried to address in the past. In 2006, Beatport sent out a similar message to labels regarding revenue minimums, but the company had not been able to look at those reports and make adjustments. Krieger explains that Beatport�s UK and European Label Management culled labels in a similar fashion last year, but "for both teams the results were minor, because for various reasons they weren't as affected by quality issues."

Jean-Patrice Remillard, aka Pheek, who co-owns Archipel Records welcomed the decision. "I honestly think this will be a good thing for everyone. It may cause some people some problems for a while but there will be new ideas appearing, perhaps even new stores that cater better to the labels that may have to leave Beatport."

Even so, it looks as though few labels will be affected. Kreiger pointed out that "the doors are always open for all labels that are cut right now. If they present an interesting concept, high quality releases, a unique profile, we might reconsider and take them aboard again at a later time. Our interest in new and interesting smaller labels has always been there and will always remain."


http://www.residentadvisor.net/news.aspx?id=9088


Posted by nchs09 on Jan-30-2008 16:54:

I do enjoy buying tracks from labels who only put out a track every 2 months or so.... i hope they dont just vanish.


Posted by denys envy on Jan-30-2008 17:39:

you're about 2 weeks behind on this news, no?


Posted by Glaniskanis on Jan-30-2008 17:43:

Re: Beatport decides to cut the crap!!

quote:
Originally posted by stev�sto
Reports surfaced last week that the service expected each label to reach a minimum of $300 per quarter in gross revenues. If an imprint failed to meet that benchmark, the label would be put on probation and forced to make more than $600 in revenue in the following quarter or its content would be removed from the site.


Read this on GU some week ago
this is just wayyyyy too low a standard in my opinion
$300 is on average 150 sales. With an output like for example Christian Paduraru has this will be easily met and it all will still be crap. There will probably only be more tunes released on the labels that have a hard time meeting the requirement, thus increasing the chance to meet the requirement alot

Doesnt fix the problem imo


Posted by bas on Jan-30-2008 18:13:

Oh wait I read that wrong. I thought Beatport was changing their mind about doing that, I didn't think they were still going through with it. That's one of the worst ideas imaginable. All that's going to happen is labels releasing tons of CRAP material to make quota resulting in even more garbage being out there than there already is. What a fucking shame


Posted by Clovis on Jan-30-2008 18:17:

No more happy hardcore


Posted by iammesol on Jan-30-2008 19:15:

quote:
Originally posted by bas
Oh wait I read that wrong. I thought Beatport was changing their mind about doing that, I didn't think they were still going through with it. That's one of the worst ideas imaginable. All that's going to happen is labels releasing tons of CRAP material to make quota resulting in even more garbage being out there than there already is. What a fucking shame


Good point. Could be counter-intuitive


Posted by denys envy on Jan-30-2008 19:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
No more happy hardcore



Posted by Whirloop on Jan-30-2008 20:56:

But crap music today sell better than ever...


Posted by Clovis on Jan-30-2008 21:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Whirloop
But crap music today sell better than ever...



Indeed.


Posted by Nik Novo on Jan-30-2008 21:51:

Initially I hoped this thread would be about Beatport giving up the territory restrictions


Posted by RebeL9 on Jan-30-2008 22:55:

what worries me the most is that old now defunct label won't be able to upload their back catalogues on Beatport due to the lower profits.


Posted by oldblue1224 on Jan-30-2008 23:04:

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
what worries me the most is that old now defunct label won't be able to upload their back catalogues on Beatport due to the lower profits.



that's also what gets me as well...


Posted by DJ Patski on Jan-30-2008 23:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Nik Novo
Initially I hoped this thread would be about Beatport giving up the territory restrictions


You and me both.


Posted by stev�sto on Jan-31-2008 00:09:

to rebel9 and oldblue1224:

quote:
Ronny Kreiger, Beatport's Vice President of Content, stresses, however, that the guidelines are not a hard and fast rule. If a label has "a proper plan and structure...a unique quality sound�and fits with the repertoire we represent", Kreiger explained, there would be no reason for the US Label Management Team to take the label down from the store.


Posted by Clovis on Jan-31-2008 00:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Nik Novo
Initially I hoped this thread would be about Beatport giving up the territory restrictions



Those are not up to beatport.


Posted by basilisk on Jan-31-2008 07:32:

Wow. That just blows my mind. The problem isn't the amount of content available--the problem is poor search functionality! Beatport is effectively rejecting the 'long tail' theory of digital economics with such a move.


Posted by Nik Novo on Jan-31-2008 08:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
Those are not up to beatport.


I know, but I was hoping nevertheless


Posted by Simcut on Jan-31-2008 12:29:

maybe whilst their at it they could sort out the SHIT download speeds, I buy about 10 tracks and have to spend ages downloading them, getting 40kb/sec on a 20mbit line..

Bah.


Posted by sleepydragon on Jan-31-2008 14:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Simcut
maybe whilst their at it they could sort out the SHIT download speeds, I buy about 10 tracks and have to spend ages downloading them, getting 40kb/sec on a 20mbit line..

Bah.


why dont you just do what i did and shop somewhere else? beatport is a load of shit for that exact reason their download speeds are laughable.


Posted by Simcut on Jan-31-2008 14:16:

^ I do :-)

but some tracks are only available at beatport, which is a real pain in the arse.

How shitty and slow is their website by the way? its pants.


Posted by MidnightSociety on Jan-31-2008 15:37:

Have to admit, I never had problems with their download speeds here in New York. I can easily download a track in less than a minute and I only have a 6MBit connection at home. Could just be an overseas issue for I remember connections being a little slow when I was in Portugal and Brazil.

To get back on topic. The guidelines are set this low so that people who are just starting out, or smaller labels who lack the online promotion budgets and/or big named talent to have a chance. But you'd be surprised even with a $300 gross minimum how some labels don't make it. It achievable as long as the label is willing to do basic promotions and release at least 2-3 records half way decent tracks a quarter. With the way Beatport files and organizes more current music, all you have to do is make sure the label stays somewhere near the newest releases for a while and someone is bound to buy it. It may make it harder for people to find the bombs right away, but I think having all the extra tracks is a plus. I know my eyes have opened to many different producers and remixers because of Beatport.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jan-31-2008 16:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Simcut
maybe whilst their at it they could sort out the SHIT download speeds, I buy about 10 tracks and have to spend ages downloading them, getting 40kb/sec on a 20mbit line..

Bah.


I get really good download speeds from Beatport. On this shitty university accomodation connection I don't even download most ID competitions because they're so slow, but I've downloaded lots of stuff from Beatport.


Posted by RJT on Jan-31-2008 16:02:

Yeah, I usually get about 100-120k/sec from Beatport (while downloading 4 tracks at a time, i.e. 400-500k/sec.).


Posted by bas on Jan-31-2008 19:13:

quote:
Originally posted by MidnightSociety
To get back on topic. The guidelines are set this low so that people who are just starting out, or smaller labels who lack the online promotion budgets and/or big named talent to have a chance. But you'd be surprised even with a $300 gross minimum how some labels don't make it. It achievable as long as the label is willing to do basic promotions and release at least 2-3 records half way decent tracks a quarter. With the way Beatport files and organizes more current music, all you have to do is make sure the label stays somewhere near the newest releases for a while and someone is bound to buy it. It may make it harder for people to find the bombs right away, but I think having all the extra tracks is a plus. I know my eyes have opened to many different producers and remixers because of Beatport.

Correct me if I'm wrong on this, it seems to me that you're interpreting this move the wrong way. Beatport doesn't really seem like they're out to help the smaller labels and producers. If anything his would hurt them. It's very obvious that Beatport puts emphasis on some releases over others, this move will basically make the smaller labels (which usually tend to have better release, imo) more obsolete. They could essentially push small start up labels out of the business.


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