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Posted by Lira on Jan-31-2008 19:59:

Self-promotion: How to?

2007 taught me the difference between knowing and being known, and I came to the conclusion that I need to work more on my "social self". Although I'm very friendly, and many people around me seem to appreciate my efforts, I'm often screwed up by the fact that I leave not too many doors open. So, considering the fact that the stuff I study (and do) is often highly theoretical, how could I give my work more visibility? Better yet, how do you promote yourself?

I've been thinking of:

Ideas? Valuable insights? Criticism?


Posted by bas on Jan-31-2008 20:03:

I like your blog-to-website idea, that doesn't seem like it would be too complicated to get off the ground. Sounds like it would be a great place to start, it would also help with your wanting to write a book.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jan-31-2008 20:03:

You should probably try to write a short story before you even think about writing a novel. And you shouldn't worry about the ideas being too complicated unless you're deliberately going for popular success a la Dan Brown.


Posted by Project-K on Jan-31-2008 20:06:

If you're going to write, please do society a favor and don't dumb down your ideas, there's far too much of that going on lately in all manners of art.


Posted by iammesol on Jan-31-2008 20:15:

At least from my local experience I've found one of the most important parts of networking is sort of branding yourself. For some reason I have an appearance that anyone (from Atlanta to freaking Stratford, England ) can remember and recognize. Also, I run my little mafia forum. Even though some may not care or even dislike it, it still once again puts a little note by my name of who I am. Find a brand that fits you if you can.

Also, a key in networking is to be approachable. I've lived by the motive "Put your best foot forward or none at all" for quite a few years now. I never show anyone my work/appearance/anything unless I know it is has the quality to be presentable. You're a great example of a person who has already done/does this daily, so I think you will do great.

Good luck Marcus.


Posted by venomX on Jan-31-2008 20:23:

Well I've recently been in the race for a position in the student association for my faculty at my university. I can tell you this much: networking is essential! If people know you, they will look for your work. You could do this in many ways, some are more effortless than others. For example, take a position in your faculty doing some that might seem minor like contributing to the student newspaper, this can get your name out there and help you meet other students in your university. Another way is to attend activities hosted by your faculty, or join clubs that are related to your field of study. Many times these clubs or activities will provide you with opportunities to meet important people (in your area of study) or provide you with interesting events that can hone your skills. Another one is social networking, depending on how popular it is where you are and in your are of study. Those are just a few suggestions, but definitely focus on networking. A robust network of connections will help you get your work out there faster and can help you go further.


Posted by tubularbills on Jan-31-2008 20:24:

make a picture sig


Posted by Fibonacci on Jan-31-2008 20:29:

I don't see how any of those plans will help you. Personally, they are all great ideas, but they will not help you network.

Networking is all about great socializing. It is the ability to have people take an interest in you, and what you are up to.

It takes a few skills that MOST PEOPLE do not know and/or have not learned. You really have to be unselfish, flattering, and modest in the right occasions and bold and confident in others. Try to look out for other people, and talk to them as though they are #1. Like THEY deserve all the credit. I get talked up a storm because my job is to make other people look good, and I do so in a non-threatening way. For some reason, that makes me pretty popular. And though it's not really a popularity contests, it certainly makes a difference to have many people discuss you in a positive light.

Really the key to great networking is the way other people perceive you. I suggest you stop posting threads on how to do it, and go out and do it - go to a coffee shop and start a random conversation. Compliment people. Be a bold and unique individual. As you start to do these things, they will become integrated into your personality.

Great networking isn't made at the office, it's made at the local pub, a business trip to a fun and exciting location, the golf course, a brunch meeting, etc...


Posted by RJT on Jan-31-2008 20:35:

See mix in sig.

/Az


Posted by itsamemario on Jan-31-2008 20:38:

Electro here: http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...7446&forumid=73


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Posted by iammesol on Jan-31-2008 20:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Fibonacci
Great networking isn't made at the office, it's made at the local pub, a business trip to a fun and exciting location, the golf course, a brunch meeting, etc...


+1


Posted by Vivid Boy on Jan-31-2008 21:04:

networking networking networkin and networking and then knowing which doors to walk through and which to leave behind u in a nice way that theyre not closed forever.


fuck the internet. it doesnt help with shit. its the pussies approach to life. and dont think u cannetwork online as well. there nothing like being face to face when pressure is such a key factor to getting what you want.


you need to meet people on the outside who have similar ideas and who canhelp you and whom you canh help as well. Theres nothing like relationships.


best way i find to meet people is through clubs social events and talking to contacts you already have to see if they have a contact for this and that.


Posted by Vivid Boy on Jan-31-2008 21:08:

and before you start netwroking decie what you want and what you can offer.


Posted by thesauce23 on Jan-31-2008 21:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Vivid Boy
fuck the internet. it doesnt help with shit. its the pussies approach to life.


so true and the reason why im prolly one of the 3 people dont have facebook or myspace.


Posted by SuspicionVandit on Jan-31-2008 21:12:

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Posted by iammesol on Jan-31-2008 21:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Vivid Boy
fuck the internet. it doesnt help with shit. its the pussies approach to life. and dont think u cannetwork online as well. there nothing like being face to face when pressure is such a key factor to getting what you want.


Unbelievably untrue. Without the internet I wouldn't be half of where I am today. Though typically not as effective as stuff you do in the flesh, the Internet brings possibilities to you that normally are impossible.


Posted by bas on Jan-31-2008 21:13:

Halfway to nowhere.

ownd.


Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Jan-31-2008 21:17:

I wouldn't waste the money and or go into debt just to get another degree that probably won't help u at all in this horrid job market, especially in Philosophy. Its who u know in this world that gets u anywhere, so work on meeting the right person(s) to get to where u want to go.


Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Jan-31-2008 21:19:

quote:
Originally posted by thesauce23
so true and the reason why im prolly one of the 3 people dont have facebook or myspace.


Those sites are nothing but porn spam bots.


Posted by Frenchie on Jan-31-2008 21:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Fibonacci


Great networking isn't made at the office,
Wrong, so wrong.


Posted by Lira on Jan-31-2008 21:29:

quote:
Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY
I wouldn't waste the money and or go into debt just to get another degree that probably won't help u at all in this horrid job market, especially in Philosophy.

As I see it, this is not the case when you're dealing with social science (such as linguistics, in my case). The deeper your knowledge in Philosophy, the more you can work on the theoretical aspects of your research.

By the way, in case it wasn't clear in the first post, I'm talking about an academic environment here, so I really don't know how "business trips" would fit in this scenario. Seminars and congresses, however, are events I've been trying to attend as often as possible.


Posted by Lilith on Jan-31-2008 21:33:

Re: Self-promotion: How to?

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
2007 taught me the difference between knowing and being known, and I came to the conclusion that I need to work more on my "social self".

Life can be sometimes a lot more about who you know rather than what you know, especially in terms of employment and business opportunities, because even though 'nepotism' is sometimes scorned by people who find themselves frustrated in work and business being sent to someone less qualified but better known.

Approaching that frustration simply by putting yourself in the other persons shoes.
Who do you trust more with your money or investment?
The person with the paper reference or someone you've known for X years, went to school with, friend or family?
Its a no-brainer.

That may not be applicable on all levels and certainly in harsh enough circumstances, anyone under qualified for a position will sink very quickly and often, very messily. It's also important to not ignore the seemingly innocuous people in your life that may not immediately have a solution to all your problems, but with enough of them the chances of them knowing and able to put you onto someone that can help is increased greatly.


Posted by bananas on Jan-31-2008 21:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Frenchie
Wrong, so wrong.

why don't you support this?


Posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY on Jan-31-2008 21:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
As I see it, this is not the case when you're dealing with social science (such as linguistics, in my case). The deeper your knowledge in Philosophy, the more you can work on the theoretical aspects of your research.

By the way, in case it wasn't clear in the first post, I'm talking about an academic environment here, so I really don't know how "business trips" would fit in this scenario. Seminars and congresses, however, are events I've been trying to attend as often as possible.


Academic environments can be extremely political. Unless your some genius that comes up with a new formula or solution to a very big problem that can change the world...I would say knowing the right person can get u that gig or position, is 99% of being successful there as well. Thats just how the world works. Ask anyone thats made it big somewhere, and u will find that many people helped them get there by opening doors otherwise they never would of had the chance to, if they relied on "what they knew"


Posted by Frenchie on Jan-31-2008 21:46:

quote:
Originally posted by bananas
why don't you support this?
I agree that some people may not form a great networking base within office walls, but that doesn't mean it's not a great place TO form a great network. I've been at my job for 4 years and my network that I've made here is huge. It's very strong, reliable and it gets me places.


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