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how to make trance basslines

I am currently working on a trance track but one thing that bothers me is that I can't create a bassline that fits in the track. Today I have heard the track Big Sky (Agnelli & Nelson Remix) from John O'callaghan and I was wondering how the sound of the bassline has been made in this track because I like it very much.

The plug-ins I use the most are reFX Vanguard and Nexus. Is it possible to create that bassline sound in one of these plug-ins?

nexus is good for house and other basses, but not so good for your stereotypical layered trance bass. vanguard you can definately use for this, but the oscillators aren't that powerful. v-station and korg legacy are better imo. v-station actually comes with a lot of trance-oriented presets, so thats probably the best place to start.

as a basic rule of thumb, you would usually have two or more layers to a classic trance bassline. you have the main bass synth and a sub. the sub should be about 50hz to 150-200hz, with the main sound extending from there on. these two layers may play in sync, or the sub may sort of wrap around the other notes to give it more groove.

in regards to actual programming, you need to post some samples.

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Originally posted by echosystm as a basic rule of thumb, you would usually have two or more layers to a classic trance bassline. you have the main bass synth and a sub. the sub should be about 50hz to 150-200hz, with the main sound extending from there on. these two layers may play in sync, or the sub may sort of wrap around the other notes to give it more groove. in regards to actual programming, you need to post some samples.

+1 i was just about to say something like that

Also Albino 3 has Sub osc's so i find albino 3 to be nice to use for sub bass

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Originally posted by echosystm nexus is good for house and other basses, but not so good for your stereotypical layered trance bass. vanguard you can definately use for this, but the oscillators aren't that powerful. v-station and korg legacy are better imo. v-station actually comes with a lot of trance-oriented presets, so thats probably the best place to start. as a basic rule of thumb, you would usually have two or more layers to a classic trance bassline. you have the main bass synth and a sub. the sub should be about 50hz to 150-200hz, with the main sound extending from there on. these two layers may play in sync, or the sub may sort of wrap around the other notes to give it more groove. in regards to actual programming, you need to post some samples.

Here is the bassline sample
Big Sky_Bass

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Originally posted by echosystm nexus is good for house and other basses, but not so good for your stereotypical layered trance bass. vanguard you can definately use for this, but the oscillators aren't that powerful. v-station and korg legacy are better imo. v-station actually comes with a lot of trance-oriented presets, so thats probably the best place to start. as a basic rule of thumb, you would usually have two or more layers to a classic trance bassline. you have the main bass synth and a sub. the sub should be about 50hz to 150-200hz, with the main sound extending from there on. these two layers may play in sync, or the sub may sort of wrap around the other notes to give it more groove. in regards to actual programming, you need to post some samples.

I think that was pretty neat answer.
Very good info about those different synths also.
Thanx!!

I frequently have problems with those basslines, too. They�re really hard to produce and each time is a new challenge...
I tried to get something close to "Thrill" for half a day but no chance. Not even an idea how it�s made.

I also use the layered approach. But I use Trilogy to make those basses, because it�s a dual rompler and you can use two different samples and mix them which I find quite useful.

Nevertheless, I usually back those basses by a row of other sounds that play around it..

I think a good example for how it�s made is O�Callaghan & Kearney - Restricted Motion (Airbase RMX). There you can hear first the "upper" bassline only, and after a little build up, the sub comes it.

But dunno how they get it to sound so much "forward"...

Thank you guys for the feedback. I guess I have to try to layer the basslines. I have never done this before. Are there any tutorials on the Internet where I can find some more details about layering trance basslines?

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Originally posted by echosystm as a basic rule of thumb, you would usually have two or more layers to a classic trance bassline. you have the main bass synth and a sub. the sub should be about 50hz to 150-200hz, with the main sound extending from there on. these two layers may play in sync, or the sub may sort of wrap around the other notes to give it more groove.

^^^^ that is basically the only thing u rly need to kno. except that u hard compress the bottom layer and more subtle compression on the top layer. then you just mix them together to the point where it sounds like they kind of connect and "bounce" off each other really well. Many times u can get any two completely differnet basses and if mixed tight enough u can make it sound like its just one bass like most artists do nowadays.

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Originally posted by proxey Thank you guys for the feedback. I guess I have to try to layer the basslines. I have never done this before. Are there any tutorials on the Internet where I can find some more details about layering trance basslines?

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...&threadid=44854

this thread should help

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Originally posted by echosystm http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...&threadid=44854 this thread should help

OMG thanks for that link I was looking for this thread the other day and couldn't find it! That thread really helped me a lot when I started out with basslines. It has a ton of good stuff in it.

the best basslines are the classic ferry corsten ones with that gurgling noise. as in carte blanche. would to know know how thats done, seems complicated though. also a bassline i really like is wippenberg ft tiff lacey - promised land. sounds almost guitar like. thats a great one if anyone knows it.

I am trying to create a sub bass in V-station can someone give me some guidelines how to create one?

there was a thread someone just posted in this thread that explains it.

you basically just make 2 different bass sounds in v-station

or one in v-station then one in bassline or one in vanguard whatever.

then you play around with the pattern then layer them until they sound the way you want.

like this

sub will be x
and main will be y


so you have something like this

xy x y xx x yx y xx y xx yxx yxy xxxyxxy y xxy

just remember one bass is deep or lower while the other one is higher in pitch ,so they both should be contrast of each other but when you play them together ,they sound like one synth.

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Originally posted by Johnny Cache But I use Trilogy to make those basses, because it�s a dual rompler and you can use two different samples and mix them which I find quite useful.

Could you show an example of some of the basses you have made with trilogy because the demo's on there website are all acoustic and drum and bass.

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Originally posted by rubez the best basslines are the classic ferry corsten ones with that gurgling noise. as in carte blanche. would to know know how thats done, seems complicated though. also a bassline i really like is wippenberg ft tiff lacey - promised land. sounds almost guitar like. thats a great one if anyone knows it.

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