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Modern art is a big wank

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The Sun reports that an artist has created a new art exhibition of drawings by masturbating over paper. Controversial performance artist Jordan McKenzie, 40, has made 55 images by ejaculating over canvas and sprinkling carbon over the results to immortalise them. The results of his labour entitled Spent are to go on display at the Centre for Recent Drawing in Highbury, north London, for a month.

http://www.irishart.com/blog/2008/0...rt-slammed.html

Your thoughts?

where's the actual artwork?

I think the idea is pretty gratifying.

sometimes it goes too far

sometimes it misses completely.

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I hope people will come and see them - not judge them out of hand.

lol spent

Hm, apparently I've been creating art for years.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Hm, apparently I've been creating art for years.

Maybe you should have saved it and made some big money.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Maybe you should have saved it and made some big money.

I will now!

http://www.penileart.com/

"Pricasso"



this is not new shit (pun intended):


Piero Manzoni, "Artist's Shit"

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In May 1961 Manzoni defecated into 90 small cans and had them sealed with the text Artist's Shit. Each 30-gram can was priced by weight based on the current value of gold (around $1.12 a gram in 1960).[1] In the following years, the cans have spread to various art collections all over the world and netted large prices, far outstripping inflation. Many of them have also exploded, maybe because of corrosion and expanding gases. In 1958 he had “pneumatic sculptures”, 45 blow-up-membranes. The buyer could also have Manzoni's own breath inside the membrane. He also tried to create a mechanical animal as a moving sculpture, using solar energy as a power source. In 1960 he created a sphere that was held aloft on a jet of air. In 1960 Manzoni marked a number of hard-boiled eggs as works of art by imprinting them with his thumbprint. He let the spectators eat the whole exhibition in 70 minutes. He also began to sell prints of his thumbprints. He also designated a number of people, including Umberto Eco, as walking works of art.

Anyway, what do you think about NASA playing 'across the universe' today for it's 40th birfday?

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In May 1961 Manzoni defecated into 90 small cans and had them sealed with the text Artist's Shit. Each 30-gram can was priced by weight based on the current value of gold (around $1.12 a gram in 1960).[1] In the following years, the cans have spread to various art collections all over the world and netted large prices, far outstripping inflation. Many of them have also exploded, maybe because of corrosion and expanding gases.

Modernist wankery coming to its logical conclusion: pure shit valued at its weight in gold.

I'm pretty excited about it! And here I thought I was sitting around, just jerking off...who knew!?

regarding the topic though


i think it's actually rather interesting and honest expressionism

i have this notion that most creative acts of man are psychosexual in nature, and so this becomes like a really honest realization of those primal urges

creativity and sex (esp sex drive) are very closely connected IMO



it's also a powerful comment on the act of masturbation itself, which is in most cases a really fleeting and forgettable thing - usually semen is something which should be done away with and in this case he is basically immortalizing them.

i mean it's one thing to just jerk off on a piece of paper, but if you look at them they are actually rather well done and interesting - mostly because they actually seem to demonstrate the volatile, fluid, dynamic nature of the act - they're not simple stains - they show trajectory, movement, even character? in short they are expressive, and de-materialized through the addition of the graphite.

I think it's pretty interesting


i don't think it was done purely for shock value. that's old

i think in part it is an expression of personal freedom for the artist - the act of doing something just because you can is such an honest and true thing, and the fact that it is an intimate act of one's own body makes it even more such




this is truly every dadaist's wet dream

Seriously, though, this is the kind of "art" that comes from esteeming "concepts" and audience response above everything else.

"Look at me, I can publicly display the results of my wanking and thereby shock bourgeois sensibilities! How stylishly transgressive and artistic I am!"

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Seriously, though, this is the kind of "art" that comes from esteeming "concepts" and audience response above everything else. "Look at me, I can publicly display the results of my wanking and thereby shock bourgeois sensibilities! How stylishly transgressive and artistic I am!"

Got us talking though... didn't it?

Not that concept art like this is really my thing... but I can see it's point. It shocks, gets people talking about it, and makes a suble commentary on the masturbatory nature of art in general.

The thing that angers me most about stuff like this is wondering why I never thought to do it myself! (I mean really, with this kind of work I'd be a farking Da Vinci!)

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Originally posted by Gen3r4l1ty makes a suble commentary on the masturbatory nature of art in general.

exactly!



now we need to talk about the even more masturbatory nature of art criticism and gallery culture

but that would involve a circle-jerk, not just one man

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Originally posted by Gen3r4l1ty ...suble commentary on the masturbatory nature of art in general.

Heh. This is subtle?

So is Porn really "Performance Art"?

I give one vote for "Yes!"

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Originally posted by SuspicionVandit

4 out of 5 Doctors recommend that you put it in her eye.


...little known fact.

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Originally posted by nefardec exactly! now we need to talk about the even more masturbatory nature of art criticism and gallery culture but that would involve a circle-jerk, not just one man

Lol. I guess that'll be his next piece... 55 pieces of toast.

Also, I have to wonder why people think that all art is necessarily "masturbatory."

Because art is a reflection of what is on the inside of mankind - an expulsion of ideas, truthful or purposefully not. True, art is very often reflective of the world that man lives in rather than just feelings and turmoil, but if it is actually art, then it is still a reflection of perspective; a view into how somebody else sees the world.

With this in mind, it is quite possible for a great deal of things to be considered 'art': painting, drawing, music, basket-weaving - as long as it is expressive and takes a degree of skill or training to achieve a genuine reflection of outward insight, then it is, technically, 'art'.

This isn't to say that there is a whole lot of 'good' art out there - just to say that art, itself, *is* a sort of stroking of ones member - a stimulation of sorts, often for pleasure [but not always], that is intended to achieve an effect.

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wouldn't it smell??

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