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FL Studio 4 Tune

Trance/ hip-hop. You'll know if you take a listen

http://download.yousendit.com/7388F90166AF4077

My Background is Playing Sax forever and playing piano by ear so I know what a good melody can sound like.

Some comments, not too harsh

first upgrade to Fl Studio7..

Hey there
First advice is to recomend you dont use Fruityloops and get away from it ASAP. Im not guna start another debate, cant be bothered. Its not good software for dance music - goof for RNB Rap etc.. If u wanna know how to get great software P.M me.

Youre tune...
It doesnt really fit into any genre, very eclectic I guess. I think you are quite new to making music by the sound of it. But id also say you know how to play keyboard, which is a very good start.

Not saying its not good, its just very basic. Youll begin to learn what sounds good. For example the kik is flat. Find some good kik samples to use instead. go to sampleswap.org for a load of samples to use. Also experiment with different soundsm synths you just stick to one when you can use lots. Fruityloops has a good synth called Sytrus. Try and find it in there and play with the sounds.

LOL - love the 'GO' sample at the end

Please review my track also
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Originally posted by mark_gg_daniels LOL - love the 'GO' sample at the end

Thats my signature on the tune

Yeah you are right. Simple samples = simple tune. I have the sounds and melody in my head but I need more skills in using the program to maximize it to its full potential and then move on to bigger and better stuff.

PS. If you listened carefully to the hip-hop section of the tune you should be able to figure out it is simple blues scale

Later tonight I will take a listen to you work. peace

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Originally posted by mark_gg_daniels Hey there First advice is to recomend you dont use Fruityloops and get away from it ASAP. Im not guna start another debate, cant be bothered. Its not good software for dance music

FL is fine for writing dance music. FL 4 was pretty damned basic in its functionality but later versions are great and im sure most 'experts' would have trouble telling whether songs were written on FL or ableton or logic or whatever. it comes down to the user in the end. there is very little that you can do in other programs that you cant do in FL. just update the samples that you are going to use coz the inbuilt samples that FL is bundled with are pretty trashy. a lot of the onboard effects are pretty ordinary but there are some great free ones around. just keep having fun with what you are doing and learn as you go.

sytrus can be awesome if you can work out how to use it and there is nothing to stop you from adding other synths into FL. (next version will have a synthmaker allowing you to build your own synths and use them in your tracks giving you more versatility than any other program on the market)

the main advice i can give you is to try and emulate (not imitate) other producers that you admire and get a feel for how trance is produced.

Re: FL Studio 4 Tune

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Originally posted by Trancealot Trance/ hip-hop. You'll know if you take a listen http://download.yousendit.com/7388F90166AF4077 My Background is Playing Sax forever and playing piano by ear so I know what a good melody can sound like. Some comments, not too harsh

I must say this song is a good start, but as you said, you have a lot to learn to take full advantage of your software. I would recommend you look into more complex samples/VSTis and familiarize yourself with more updated software.

So you're a sax player--alto, baritone, tenor? And I like the name, I'm guessing you're a Spamalot fan?

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Originally posted by phantom limb I must say this song is a good start, but as you said, you have a lot to learn to take full advantage of your software. I would recommend you look into more complex samples/VSTis and familiarize yourself with more updated software. So you're a sax player--alto, baritone, tenor? And I like the name, I'm guessing you're a Spamalot fan?

Spamalot, heard of it but never saw it. I started on Alto, then mainly baritone. I am done with college so I rarely play.

You musical structure is very good in terms of rolls buildups etc. I know what you mean by the hip hop influence but if anything due to the tempo it would probably be better to day that it crosses into the breakbeat region rather than hip hip. Enough spliting hairs.

Yes, you seriously need to upgrade to FL7 though. Ignore what some people say with regards to not being able to make pro tracks. I have Cubase and Reason but always find myself going back to FL because the simple reason is that I like it.

FL is very versatile and it's more to do with the VSTs that you use than the DAW that's for sure.

You track does sound very dry though, no effects what so ever etc.

At this stage I would probably suggest that you start reading up on technical knowledge as your song writing ability is definately supperior to the tech side. An excellent starting point to have. You find a lot of guys here are the other way round and end up producing technically correct sounding music that is very bland. In my opinion at least.
Don't get me wrong there are some great guys here too on all counts.

My advice, read up on use of compression, delay and reverb. These effects/processing can make some very bland sounds really come to life. After that, start looking into how to mix down your track.

Looking forward to hear your next installment.

Good job.

Cheers
Nem

nah he is write, fruity pretty good, just find it a bit of a 'Novelty' item not the real deal.... But theres no prob with using both and as said before ultimately its down to what u do with it

Its not the size of the boat, its the motion in the ocean (as I tell my girlie every day)

p.s. ive ogt youre tune on my desktop just so I can hear the 'GO' at the end. Cracks me up everytime

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Originally posted by Nemesis44 At this stage I would probably suggest that you start reading up on technical knowledge as your song writing ability is definately

Knowledge of music, got it
&
Knowledge of music application, don't got it

From all this feedback I will def take some more time on the tune at hand.

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Originally posted by mark_gg_daniels p.s. ive ogt youre tune on my desktop just so I can hear the 'GO' at the end. Cracks me up everytime

YOU NEVER KNOW ITS COMING UNTIL YOU HEAR IT




The + side is no one hated it. I know it sounds good. But anything can sound good in life. I need it to sound professional(application skills) but thats what all these comments are for.

Oh yeah I listened to your tune "GG Daniels" last night. I hate you. I can't comment technically because you know why but no complaints.

why do u hate me? what i do man!!!!!

GO

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Originally posted by mark_gg_daniels GO

I better copyright [GO] before I start hearing it on the radio. You never know

haha

its not youres you swine, its a sample in Fruityloops ive played it myself.

Maybe chop it up something, add some effects anfd than copywright it

Go!

Ok, there's a few things already been mentioned but I will recap.

Vary your instrumentation - download some plugins and samples. This will give your track life, providing a thicker and more organic timbre. Fruityloops supports VST plugins so find some. I use Reason3 by itself (ie no Rewire) so I couldn't recommend particular plugins but I'd have a browse if I was you. Maybe you can get some 'free' ones from people on this board. Also get some new samples. You pretty much know what you're doing with respect to arrangement, but you're drastically limited by lack of instrumentation. Another bonus to using different instrumentation for different parts is that you'll get better separation and be able to tell which melodies are which rather than those melodies overlapping each other and just sounding twice as loud. A downside to using the same instruments over and over in the same track is that at some point these instruments may phase (cancel each other out,) which means that they may disappear.

Add effects - delay, reverb, phase, chorus, distortion etc. If you do this, it will give your track a greater perception of depth. Try it and you will see what I mean.

Learn about EQ, mixing and compression. These are mastering tools/techniques which will make your track sound a lot more professional. It can be somewhat trial and error if you're not being taught professionally, but keep at it. In fact - read everything! Including the manuals & tutorials provided here on TA.

Apply a little bit of this or that and listen to the difference between the new and original sounds. Flick between enabling and bypassing the effects you have applied to tell the difference and to see if you like the result. Add things in bits and don't be afraid to try new things that aren't 'in the book.'

You remind me of what I was like a few years ago. Purely self motivated, learning off my own back. You'll get there mate - good luck.

Cheers
-K

PS... Go!

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