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Posted by WayWord on Feb-06-2008 04:09:

Willie Nelson: Twin Towers Were Imploded On 9/11

quote:
Willie Nelson: Twin Towers Were Imploded On 9/11
American icon tells Alex Jones Show he questions official story

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Monday, February 4th, 2008

Straight talking American icon Willie Nelson today told a national radio show that he thought the twin towers were imploded like condemned Las Vegas casino buildings, as the country music superstar forcefully voiced his doubts about the official 9/11 story.
Agreeing with host Alex Jones that he questioned the official story, Nelson elaborated, "I saw those towers fall and I've seen an implosion in Las Vegas - there's too much similarities between the two, and I saw a building fall that didn't get hit by nothing," added Nelson, referring to WTC Building 7 which collapsed in the late afternoon of September 11.



"How naive are we - what do they think we'll go for?," asked Nelson, pointing out that his doubts began on the very day of 9/11.
"I saw one fall and it was just so symmetrical, I said wait a minute I just saw that last week at the casino in Las Vegas and you see these implosions all the time and the next one fell and I said hell there's another one - and they're trying to tell me that an airplane did it and I can't go along with that," said Nelson...

...Click here to listen to the MP3 audio of the interview.
FULL ARTICLE
ABC News and AOL have picked up the story.


Posted by Krypton on Feb-06-2008 04:12:

WELP, Willie Nelson doesn't believe the official story; it must not be true!


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Feb-06-2008 04:15:

You mean Willie Nelson the country music artist known for being perpetually high? That Willie Nelson? A veritable expert that one.

Please, keep the 9/11 shit in the 9/11 thread.


Posted by donnybrasco on Feb-06-2008 04:21:

Smoking weed daily makes one UBER stupid.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Feb-06-2008 04:40:

delete this thread lira

why the troofers give two shits what some shitty C&W singer reckons is beyond me. losers the lot of them.


Posted by WayWord on Feb-06-2008 05:05:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
delete this thread lira

why the troofers give two shits what some shitty C&W singer reckons is beyond me. losers the lot of them.


That's ridiculous. Why do you even care? Just close your eyes and it'll go away.

As for those attacking Willie's pot use, isn't this a trance forum?

And yet they believe George W. Bush is fit to be President of the United States of America.


Posted by Krypton on Feb-06-2008 05:19:

quote:
Originally posted by donnybrasco
Smoking weed daily makes one UBER stupid.


I beg to differ, but hey, that's your opinion...



quote:
And yet they believe George W. Bush is fit to be President of the United States of America.


I don't think you've been around long to know that most of this forum is actually strongly against the Bush administrations policies....

But we're not talking about Bush's policies. We're talking about 911 conspiracy theories, which many of us flatly don't believe. They are akin to UFO abductions. We saw the planes hit the towers, we know the hi-jackers, we know how they did it, we know why they did it, what more do you want?


Posted by Q5echo on Feb-06-2008 05:22:

quote:
Originally posted by WayWord
And yet they believe George W. Bush is fit to be President of the United States of America.


actually for the most part quite the opposite is true, noob. hardly anyone here believes W is fit to be President...sept me


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Feb-06-2008 05:24:

quote:
Originally posted by WayWord
That's ridiculous. Why do you even care? Just close your eyes and it'll go away.


i care because im sick of this place being full of idiotic threads like this one, promoting idiotic ideas like you are, and just generally filling the PDD up with stupid.

and yes, 911 conspiracy theories ARE pathetically stupid.

but what is even MORE stupid is the fact that you think willie's opinion is noteworthy to ANYONE outside the tinfoil hat brigade. it really isnt and just highlights the desperation of the "movement".

"hey, we dont have ONE single peer-reviewed analysis of the collapses of WTC1,2,7, but hey - this performer agrees with us so that's gotta count for something!"

simply retarded.


Posted by donnybrasco on Feb-06-2008 05:36:

quote:
Originally posted by WayWord
...As for those attacking Willie's pot use, isn't this a trance forum?
...


So everyone who listens to Electronic Music smokes weed now? Your assumptions will be the death of your integrity...


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Feb-06-2008 05:41:

Hey Trancer, you forgot to log out WayWord.


Posted by WayWord on Feb-06-2008 07:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
I beg to differ, but hey, that's your opinion...





I don't think you've been around long to know that most of this forum is actually strongly against the Bush administrations policies....

But we're not talking about Bush's policies. We're talking about 911 conspiracy theories, which many of us flatly don't believe. They are akin to UFO abductions. We saw the planes hit the towers, we know the hi-jackers, we know how they did it, we know why they did it, what more do you want?


I didn't mean you all in particular.


Posted by WayWord on Feb-06-2008 07:17:

quote:
Originally posted by donnybrasco
So everyone who listens to Electronic Music smokes weed now? Your assumptions will be the death of your integrity...


No, but it's been my experience that most people in the trance scene have sampled mind-altering drugs a time or too.


Posted by WayWord on Feb-06-2008 07:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Hey Trancer, you forgot to log out WayWord.


Are you my mother now?


Posted by WayWord on Feb-06-2008 07:19:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
i care because im sick of this place being full of idiotic threads like this one, promoting idiotic ideas like you are, and just generally filling the PDD up with stupid.

and yes, 911 conspiracy theories ARE pathetically stupid.

but what is even MORE stupid is the fact that you think willie's opinion is noteworthy to ANYONE outside the tinfoil hat brigade. it really isnt and just highlights the desperation of the "movement".

"hey, we dont have ONE single peer-reviewed analysis of the collapses of WTC1,2,7, but hey - this performer agrees with us so that's gotta count for something!"

simply retarded.


You sound just like a lot of other trolls I've encountered on various forums. I could care less what you think. If you don't like the subject, don't post in the thread.


Posted by venomX on Feb-06-2008 07:23:

quote:
Originally posted by WayWord
You sound just like a lot of other trolls I've encountered on various forums. I could care less what you think. If you don't like the subject, don't post in the thread.


Yes, because we all know we should only engage in the exchange of ideas if we completely agree with each other. After all, dissenting views only make us have to actually justify our positions. God forbid that might happen in a debate forum!


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Feb-06-2008 07:27:

quote:
Originally posted by WayWord
You sound just like a lot of other trolls I've encountered


yeah. ive been posting regarding 911 for 4-5 years on this particular forum and IM the troll? ha.

quote:
Originally posted by WayWord
I could care less what you think.


first off ignoramus, it is "couldn't care less", if you could care less that means you actually care some. idiot.

quote:
Originally posted by WayWord
If you don't like the subject, don't post in the thread.


i am one of the few rational observers that still bother posting re 911. and i will continue to call out you troothers for the liars and highschool researchers that you are.

so, whilst im here, can you answer me the following question?

why on earth do you think willie nelson's opinion is worth considering on this particular topic?


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Feb-06-2008 07:28:

quote:
Originally posted by venomX
Yes, because we all know we should only engage in the exchange of ideas if we completely agree with each other. After all, dissenting views only make us have to actually justify our positions. God forbid that might happen in a debate forum!


highschool internet detectives arent quite up on the whole thesis - antithesis - synthesis process.


Posted by WayWord on Feb-06-2008 07:38:

quote:
Originally posted by venomX
Yes, because we all know we should only engage in the exchange of ideas if we completely agree with each other. After all, dissenting views only make us have to actually justify our positions. God forbid that might happen in a debate forum!


She's not attempting to debate. She's trolling.


Posted by WayWord on Feb-06-2008 07:40:

quote:
why on earth do you think willie nelson's opinion is worth considering on this particular topic?


How about you read the entire article, listen to the interview, then get back to me.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Feb-06-2008 07:43:

quote:
Originally posted by WayWord
How about you read the entire article, listen to the interview, then get back to me.


already done, a few days ago when willie first advertised his rampant stupidity.

so, answer my question. why do you troofers think the opinion of some shitty singer-songwriter means anything but jack shit?

edit: oh, and FYI, there are absolutely NO similarities between towers 1&2 and ANY implosion ever done in the history of demolitions.


Posted by donnybrasco on Feb-06-2008 07:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Hey Trancer, you forgot to log out WayWord.


quote:
Originally posted by WayWord
Are you my mother now?


So you admit that this is you, Trancer. Awesome, lol.

quote:
Originally posted by WayWord
She's not attempting to debate. She's trolling.


quote:
Originally posted by WayWord
You sound just like a lot of other trolls I've encountered on various forums. I could care less what you think....


Vintage Trancer verbiage if ever I read it.

Trancer, what did I tell you about how having imaginary friends backing your views, doesn't count?


Posted by DJ UD on Feb-06-2008 08:00:

When Wilie Nelson shows me a degree in demolition or something related to that then I will be more inclined to pay attention to what he says about such matters.


Posted by WayWord on Feb-06-2008 08:12:

Here's something to chew on for the rest of you know-it-alls.

quote:
Streaking Across America's Skies
There Are More Than 100 Fighter Jets On Alert Across The United States
Newsweek Web Exclusive
Oct 9, 2001

...Since the Sept. 11 attacks, the North American Aerospace Defense Command--the military command charged with watching over America's skies--has put more than 100 F-16 and F-15 fighter jets on alert at 25 air bases across the country. When the World Trade Center and Pentagon were attacked, there were some 14 fighter jets regularly patroling the skies above the United States and Canada...

http://www.newsweek.com/id/75407



We spend billions and billions of dollars on the defense industry, and we cannot even prevent something from striking the Pentagon more than a half hour after two terrorist attacks have already occurred? (The South Tower, WTC 2 was hit by flight 175 at 9:02 am, and the Pentagon was supposedly hit by flight 77 by 9:37 am at the earliest*.) Ridiculous.

But, no, using common sense would be silly. Let's just believe the excuses offered us by the government. Nevermind that it's been hijacked by criminals.


quote:
92) 9:37 a.m.: American Airlines Flight 77 is lost from radar screens and impacts the western side of the Pentagon. The section of the Pentagon hit consists mainly of newly renovated, unoccupied offices. The Pentagon says American Airlines Flight 77 hits them at 9:37. Other published reports have American Airlines Flight 77 striking at 9:40 to 9:43; The New York Times even published 9:45 (see 9:24 a.m. # 75).

from http://www.911timeline.net



quote:
Flight 77, which took off from Dulles International Airport outside Washington shortly after 8 a.m., stayed aloft until 9:45 a.m. and would have been visible on the F.A.A.'s radar system as it reversed course in the Midwest an hour later to fly back to Washington. The radars would have observed it even though its tracking beacon had been turned off.

from The New York Times - September 15, 2001



Hmm. Let's see. Exactly how many warnings from how many different sources did our intelligence agencies need?

Pay attention to the end of the clip where Paul Thompson (author ofTimeline of Terror) mentions warnings of planes being used as weapons.



quote:
The following is the full text of the intelligence briefing of 6 August 2001, prepared for President George W Bush, concerning the al-Qaeda threat to the United States.

It was declassified on 10 April.

Three sections were edited, the White House said, to "protect the names of foreign governments that provided information to CIA".

For the President Only

Bin Laden Determined To Strike in US

Clandestine, foreign government, and media reports indicate (Osama) Bin Laden since 1997 has wanted to conduct terrorist attacks in the US. Bin Laden implied in US television interviews in 1997 and 1998 that his followers would follow the example of World Trade Center bomber Ramzi Yousef and "bring the fighting to America".

After US missile strikes on his base in Afghanistan in 1998, Bin Laden told followers he wanted to retaliate in Washington, according to a ...(edited)... service.

An Egyptian Islamic Jihad (EIJ) operative told a ... (edited) ... service at the same time that Bin Laden was planning to exploit the operative's access to the US to mount a terrorist strike.

The millennium plotting in Canada in 1999 may have been part of Bin Laden's first serious attempt to implement a terrorist strike in the US.

Convicted plotter Ahmed Ressam has told the FBI that he conceived the idea to attack Los Angeles International Airport himself, but that Bin Laden lieutenant Abu Zubaydah encouraged him and helped facilitate the operation.

Ressam also said that in 1998 Abu Zubaydah was planning his own US attack...

...We have not been able to corroborate some of the more sensational threat reporting, such as that from a ... (edited)... service in 1998 saying that Bin Laden wanted to hijack a US aircraft to gain the release of "Blind Sheikh" Omar Abdel Rahman and other US-held extremists.

Nevertheless, FBI information since that time indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York.

The FBI is conducting approximately 70 full field investigations throughout the US that it considers Bin Laden-related.

The CIA and the FBI are investigating a call to our embassy in the United Arab Emirates in May saying that a group of Bin Laden supporters was in the US planning attacks with explosives.

from http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3617289.stm


quote:
* June 20, 2001: Time Magazine Mentions al-Qaeda Using Planes as Weapons [Time, 6/20/01]


* June 21, 2001: Senior al-Qaeda Officials Say Important Surprises Coming Soon

A reporter for the Middle East Broadcasting Company interviews bin Laden. Keeping a promise made to Taliban leader Mullah Omar, bin Laden does not say anything substantive, but Ayman al-Zawahiri and other top al-Qaeda leaders promise that �[the] coming weeks will hold important surprises that will target American and Israeli interests in the world.� [Associated Press, 6/24/01] Author James Bamford theorizes that the original 9/11 plot involved a simultaneous attack on Israel and that shoe bomber Richard Reid may have originally wanted to target an Israeli aircraft around this time. For instance, Reid flies to Tel Aviv, Israel on July 12, 2001, to test if airline security would check his shoes for bombs. [Bamford, 2004, pp 236-39]

*June 28, 2001: CIA Director Tenet Warns of Imminent al-Qaeda Attack [Washington Post, 5/17/02]

Counterterrorism �csar� Richard Clarke also later asserts that Tenet tells him around this time, �It's my sixth sense, but I feel it coming. This is going to be the big one.� [Clarke, 2004, pp 235]

*Late Summer 2001: Jordan Warns US That Aircraft Will Be Used in Major Attack Inside the US

Jordanian intelligence (the GID) makes a communications intercept deemed so important that King Abdullah's men relay it to Washington. The message states that a major attack, code named �The Big Wedding,� is planned inside the US and that aircraft will be used. [International Herald Tribune, 5/21/02; Christian Science Monitor, 5/23/02]

from http://www.americanhiroshima.info/911warnings.htm


quote:
June 20, 2001: Time Magazine Mentions al-Qaeda Using Planes as Weapons [Time, 6/20/01]

from The Terror Timeline - Google Books (Search for it)


quote:
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- U.S. intelligence officials had several warnings that terrorists might attack the United States on its home soil -- even using airplanes as weapons -- well before the September 11, 2001 attacks, two congressional committees said in a report released Wednesday.

In 1998, U.S. intelligence had information that a group of unidentified Arabs planned to fly an explosives-laden airplane into the World Trade Center, according to a joint inquiry of the House and Senate intelligence committees.

However, the Federal Aviation Administration found the plot "highly unlikely given the state of that foreign country's aviation program," and believed a flight originating outside the United States would be detected before it reached its target inside the country, the report said.

"The FBI's New York office took no action on the information," it said.

from http://archives.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOL...igence.hearings


quote:
The Bojinka Plot was a planned large-scale terrorist attack by Ramzi Yousef and Khalid Shaikh Mohammed to blow up eleven airliners and their approximately 4000 passengers as they flew from Asia to the United States. The term can also refer to a combination of plots by Yousef and Mohammed to take place in January 1995, including a plot to assassinate Pope John Paul II and crash a plane into the CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia, as well as the airline bombing plot.

Despite careful and ingenious planning, the Bojinka plot was disrupted after a chemical fire drew Filipino police attention on January 6 and January 7, 1995. Only one person was actually killed in the course of the plot - a passenger seated near a nitroglycerin bomb on Philippine Airlines Flight 434 - but some lessons learned were apparently used by the planners of the September 11 attacks.

The money handed down to the plotters originated from Al-Qaeda, the international Islamic jihadi organization then based in Sudan.

..........

Phase II, CIA plane crash plot

Abdul Hakim Murad confessed details of Phase II in his interrogation by the Manila police after his capture.

Phase two would have involved Murad either renting, buying, or hijacking a small airplane, preferably a Cessna. The airplane would be filled with explosives. He would then crash it into the CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia. Murad had been trained as a pilot in North Carolina, and was slated to be a suicide pilot.

There were alternate plans to hijack a 12th commercial airliner and use that instead of the small aircraft, probably due to the Manila cell's growing frustration with explosives. Testing explosives in a house or apartment is dangerous, and it can easily give away a terrorist plot. Khalid Sheik Mohammed probably made the alternate plan.

A report from the Philippines to the United States on January 20, 1995 stated, "What the subject has in his mind is that he will board any American commercial aircraft pretending to be an ordinary passenger. Then he will hijack said aircraft, control its cockpit and dive it at the CIA headquarters."

Another plot the men were cooking up would have involved hijacking of more airplanes. The Sears Tower (Chicago, Illinois), The Pentagon (Arlington County, Virginia), the United States Capitol (Washington, DC), the White House (Washington, DC), the Transamerica Tower (San Francisco, California), and the World Trade Center (New York, New York) would be the likely targets.

from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Bojinka


Lone Gunmen "Pilot" Episdoe, Aired March 4, 2001 on Fox


quote:
OPERATION HOLLYWOOD

Have your favorite movies been censored or meddled with by the Pentagon?

Since the 80's, and the success of "Top Gun", Hollywood has increased its production of big budget war movies, using military bases, submarines and aircraft carriers that the armed forces have generously made available to the studios. In exchange, the Pentagon's experts vet hundreds of screenplays each year.

Using lots of movie clips, Operation Hollywood explores this cozy relationship, and questions the wisdom of letting the Pentagon use movies to promote the U.S. army's image.
from http://www.cbc.ca/passionateeyesund...ure_241004.html


quote:
05/29/2001

Pentagon provides for Hollywood

WASHINGTON (AP) � If Lt. Col. Jimmy Doolittle comes across as particularly heroic in the new war epic Pearl Harbor, the credit goes as much to the behind-the-scenes influence of the Pentagon as to the vision of Hollywood filmmakers. Likewise, if the Marines get a special mention during a rescue sequence in the coming movie The Sum of all Fears, it was their idea. In exchange for providing Hollywood with military advice, personnel and awesome equipment for movies and TV shows, the Pentagon gets an advance look at scripts and has a chance to negotiate changes.

"If you want to use the military's toys, you've got to play by their rules," says John Lovett, an outside military technical adviser to filmmakers. "That's how it's done."
from http://www.cbc.ca/passionateeyesund...ure_241004.html


quote:
Press Briefing to the Pool By Ari Fleischer
Aboard Air Force One

1:47 P.M. EDT


Q Does the President now know anything more about who is responsible, the coordinated attack, and whether this is it or --

MR. FLEISCHER: That information is still being gathered and analyzed. And I anticipate that will be an ongoing process for a little while. Often, at a time like this, information comes in, it turns out not to be true. The proper procedure is to carefully, thoroughly evaluate all information and do so in a ?

Q Had there been any warnings that the President knew of?

MR. FLEISCHER: No warnings.

Q Does the President ? is he concerned about the fact that this attack of this severity happened with no warning?

from http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/rele...20010911-6.html


Bin Laden warned of huge attack 3 weeks before 9/11



Oh, and...what else? How about this?

Why was key SOCOM Able Danger information not provided to the 9/11 Commission? (CNN article)

Why did Former FBI Director Louis Freeh Charge the 9/11 Commission Cover-Up? (newsmax article)

Why did BBC News air a story about the fall of WTC Building 7 26 minutes before it actually collapsed?



http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/bbc_wtc7_videos.html


Posted by WayWord on Feb-06-2008 08:16:

quote:
Originally posted by donnybrasco
So you admit that this is you, Trancer. Awesome, lol.





Vintage Trancer verbiage if ever I read it.

Trancer, what did I tell you about how having imaginary friends backing your views, doesn't count?



No, I didn't know you were caling me by somebody else's handle. I've never posted on this forum before.


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