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i feel like i should do something... they seem like they're set on self destruction, but at the same time, i'm not their mum. i doubt i will be friends with them for much longer if it continues. i'm not a goodie twoshoes anti-drug type, but this is going well beyond harmless experimentation - they use the words "self medicating". they go to psychologists for depression, but i suspect this is just a convienient excuse to justify the drug use.

just as some background, we're talking about extracting codeine from tablets, valium, benzos (to the point of not being able to remember 4-8 hours of their lives), acid, mdma caps, GHB, etc. the thing that alarms me the most is that they do most of it non-socially, while they are at home by themselves. probably twice a week on average (once on weekend, once mid week). i'm concerned.

what do you do in these circumstances?

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Originally posted by echosystm i feel like i should do something... they seem like they're set on self destruction, but at the same time, i'm not their mum. i doubt i will be friends with them for much longer if it continues. i'm not a goodie twoshoes anti-drug type, but this is going well beyond harmless experimentation - they use the words "self medicating". they go to psychologists for depression, but i suspect this is just a convienient excuse to justify the drug use. just as some background, we're talking about extracting codeine from tablets, valium, benzos (to the point of not being able to remember 4-8 hours of their lives), acid, mdma caps, GHB, etc. the thing that alarms me the most is that they do most of it non-socially, while they are at home by themselves. probably twice a week on average (once on weekend, once mid week). i'm concerned. what do you do in these circumstances?

dude...i had NEVER had to deal with this..until now. i have a friend who almost died cause of it. try to get them into some sort of rehab. i cant tell you how bad it gets. omg i didnt realize it was such a problem because i had NEVER been in the situation before. i recognize it now. get them help if possible.

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Originally posted by echosystm i feel like i should do something... they seem like they're set on self destruction, but at the same time, i'm not their mum. i doubt i will be friends with them for much longer if it continues. i'm not a goodie twoshoes anti-drug type, but this is going well beyond harmless experimentation - they use the words "self medicating". they go to psychologists for depression, but i suspect this is just a convienient excuse to justify the drug use.

That is actually very common and i dont see the difference from going to the psychiatrist and going to the corner drug dealer.


Anyhow why dont you try calling "intervention"


Actually just stop hanging out with them unless you truly appreciate the relationship and dont mind losing it in the interest of saving their lives... (doesnt sound like their life is in danger though)

untill they want by themselves - there is nothing you can do about it.

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Originally posted by me&myself untill they want by themselves - there is nothing you can do about it.

overall i am one that will agree...but my buddy also realizes now that he is clean and sober that its good that people intervened.

Let them hit rock bottom.

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Originally posted by jennypie Let them hit rock bottom.

thats pretty much what happened with my buddy.

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Originally posted by echosystm what do you do in these circumstances?

I have friend who I tried talking to about getting his life straight and getting a job,school and getting somewhere in life and stop going clubbing and getting shit faced every fucking weekend to the point where he cant feel his hands and stuff.....His parents are rich and his the only son and spends his parents money like it grows on trees on his own backyard.


I have stopped going out and partying with him,because im scared he might die someday and I'll be there...... I tried he wont understand or listen until something really bad happens and teaches him the lesson the hard way.

I had one of those friends who'de take E by themselves just sit in their room all night rollin. It gets bad when there is no point to it anymore.

BTW the dood im talking about doesnt like carrying a bottle of water when dancing on 4-6 pills all night because he thinks/says its not fun dancing with bottle of water in ur hands or pocket.....

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Originally posted by echosystm i feel like i should do something... they seem like they're set on self destruction, but at the same time, i'm not their mum. i doubt i will be friends with them for much longer if it continues. i'm not a goodie twoshoes anti-drug type, but this is going well beyond harmless experimentation - they use the words "self medicating". they go to psychologists for depression, but i suspect this is just a convienient excuse to justify the drug use. just as some background, we're talking about extracting codeine from tablets, valium, benzos (to the point of not being able to remember 4-8 hours of their lives), acid, mdma caps, GHB, etc. the thing that alarms me the most is that they do most of it non-socially, while they are at home by themselves. probably twice a week on average (once on weekend, once mid week). i'm concerned. what do you do in these circumstances?

sell them drugs?

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Originally posted by ashish_gupta sell them drugs?

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Originally posted by UmmiE BTW the dood im talking about doesnt like carrying a bottle of water when dancing on 4-6 pills all night because he thinks/says its not fun dancing with bottle of water in ur hands or pocket.....

omg, if he is stupid - ok.
let him overdose, feel what it's feel like, have a ride to the hospital on the er.
obviously, that's what a guy wants.

one of them is seeing a different psychologist now, in an attempt to straighten themselves out. it just seems to me that this "self medicating" is an endless roller coaster for them. i mean, if i wanted to fix it, i would take the meds at the correct dosage, stop drinking and be proactive about it. this isn't what is happening. the move to a different psych seems like a weak move to satisfy a guilty conscience, without actually changing anything.

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Originally posted by jennypie Let them hit rock bottom.

Coke is one hellava drug..

Never got heavy into it, but the same dude I was talking about, one time started losing his mind in my car, talking about, "Dude, I can't feel my body, I can't see straight, everything is moving, you gotta drive me home man."

I just asked why he did so much for absolutely no reason and that he should lay off the hard drugs for once. Smoke some weed, seriously...

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Originally posted by echosystm we're talking about extracting codeine from tablets, valium, benzos (to the point of not being able to remember 4-8 hours of their lives), acid, mdma caps, GHB, etc.

that's not normal?

but seriously...they may appreciate your concern, but they need to want to stop, themselves.

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Originally posted by iclone that's not normal?

perhaps it is different in america, but over here "normal" is basically you've tried weed socially a few times and thats it. mixing together all kinds of random painkillers, by yourself at home, regularly, is not normal imo.

Yes, your friend(s) does drugs. A lot of different ones. Has it been affecting his economic, or social life?

I've been watching a couple people go down this path lately, some of them fairly close to me, it really sucks, because there's nothing you can do until they want to stop, except be there for them when they do. But it's just something that you're exposed to when you spent time in the party scene, I guess. Have to take the good with the bad.

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Originally posted by iclone that's not normal? but seriously...they may appreciate your concern, but they need to want to stop, themselves.

lol I was thinking the same thing, that sounds like normal recreational drug use and/or self medicating psychological problems to me

When they are coping herion in the ghetto at 2 am or IVing 2 grams of meth a day, then its time to worry. But even then people won't quit using until something happens to make them want to quit.

I think my friend might need rehab, but for injecting ocs... It really makes me sad. We are talking between friends and if we think it is get bad (again) we are gonna do something about it. Whether that means calling his parents, rehab.. I dont know but it sucks.

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Originally posted by jennypie Let them hit rock bottom.

Works wonders.

This is the sort of thing that makes me appreciate how my group of friends, despite not liking EDM partying and all that, are pretty responsible and would never get into this sort of shit... except for some random abuse of alcohol here and there, hah.

I can't give very good advice then as have never been in this situation. I guess I'd try to put some sense into them, and if things get really bad, well... rat them out to their parents or something? Better to be seen as a betraying cunt than to let your friends ruin their lives. Although if they're seeing psychologists already - and going to them with the wrong attitude - seems to me that's it's a really fucked up state where very little can be done, until themselves on their own want to stop with the over-the-top drug thing.

Shitty situation to be in, sorry man.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel dude...i had NEVER had to deal with this..until now. i have a friend who almost died cause of it. try to get them into some sort of rehab. i cant tell you how bad it gets. omg i didnt realize it was such a problem because i had NEVER been in the situation before. i recognize it now. get them help if possible.

Naaaaaaah.

You can't tell a friend.. Hey, I think you should go to rehab.

1st step in AA is acknowledging that you have a problem. No one ever told me anything. I just realized that maybe once in a while won't be so bad instead of 3x a week! [All on my own ty]

I've seen how ppl react why you try and mention that they have a problem. It's not worth it. It's just a waste of time.

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