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Posted by greenlight_in on Feb-07-2008 20:03:

Budget Turntable

Ok ive looked everywhere around on this site but couldnt find an answer i was looking for.

Basically im planning to purchase a Turntable and my budget is around 120 Pounds.

Ive just got CDJ200s and im buying this turntable just to play a vinyl or two once in a while.Im not into scratching,just want to use the TT for beatmatching thats all.

Please suggest me some good models.

Ive been looking at Stanton T.60 and Numark TT1650, and some gemini ones aswell.Also i would like to know the difference between an expensive TT and a cheap one and will one of these solve my purpose.

Thanks.


Posted by s3nate on Feb-07-2008 23:02:

Cheap ones might not hold their pitch that well. They also have a very low amount of torque.

Technics hold their pitch amazingly well, have a very high amount of torque and just an overall better feel.


Posted by echosystm on Feb-08-2008 00:06:

quote:
Originally posted by s3nate
have a very high amount of torque and just an overall better feel.


lies. technics 1200s have very low torque by todays standards. the motors are good quality and last though.

greenlight_in, numark tt200s are the cheapest you should bother with. the 1650s are belt drive. numark tt200s will be a good buy, as they have similar specifications and feel as a 1200 (in terms of spin up & torque etc.). however, they won't last as long obviously.


Posted by greenlight_in on Feb-08-2008 08:23:

Hey guys,thanks for the response.
I have also been looking across web and figured that turntables in that range have shit torque,so ive managed to increase my budget a little and now im looking atStanton T.80 .
What do you guys think about that.

And regarding Technics,they shoot way above my budget,so im not even gonna look at them and feel like shit,since they are fucking beautiful!!


Posted by Trance Nutter on Feb-08-2008 10:18:

actually the Numark 1650's are direct drive, I used to have a pair.
i wouldn't recommend getting them if you are a more experienced dj (ie not absolute beginner).
Even if you were a beginner dj they'd be the lowest choice.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Feb-08-2008 10:41:

quote:
Originally posted by greenlight_in
And regarding Technics,they shoot way above my budget,so im not even gonna look at them and feel like shit,since they are fucking beautiful!!


since you already have CDJs, you dont NEED a 1200 right now, just wait a lil longer, save some more, and buy a second hand technics. mine are 4 years old and they may as well be brand new


Posted by Jarvmeister on Feb-08-2008 11:50:

Yeah, people can debate to death the pros and cons of this CDJ or that mixer, but when it comes to turntables there is only one undisputed king: The Technics 1200 series.

Anyone who disagrees can, quite frankly, go and eat their own face.


Posted by aLviNx80 on Feb-08-2008 13:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Jarvmeister
when it comes to turntables there is only one undisputed king: The Technics 1200 series.

Anyone who disagrees can, quite frankly, go and eat their own face.


+1


Posted by greenlight_in on Feb-08-2008 15:55:

Technics then huh!
Is anyone here selling them?!
Ill check the Buy/Sell thread.

Ok but what do you guys say about the Stanton T.80's.


Posted by s3nate on Feb-09-2008 12:34:

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
lies. technics 1200s have very low torque by todays standards. the motors are good quality and last though.

greenlight_in, numark tt200s are the cheapest you should bother with. the 1650s are belt drive. numark tt200s will be a good buy, as they have similar specifications and feel as a 1200 (in terms of spin up & torque etc.). however, they won't last as long obviously.


I never knew this! Thanks for correcting me.


Posted by Jarvmeister on Feb-09-2008 12:44:

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
lies. technics 1200s have very low torque by todays standards.


That's also bollocks. OK, so perhaps they no longer have the highest torque motor, but to say that they have very low torque motors is not true.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Feb-09-2008 13:21:

quote:
Originally posted by greenlight_in
Ok but what do you guys say about the Stanton T.80's.


never used one, but i hear they're excellent.


Posted by echosystm on Feb-09-2008 13:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Jarvmeister
to say that they have very low torque motors is not true.


technics 1200s - 1.5kg/cm

Numark TT500 - 4.5kg/cm
Stanton T120 - 4.5kg/cm
Stanton STR8150 - 4.5kg/cm

that is 3 times as much. how much more do you need to classify it as very low? technics have durability and branding on their side, same as pioneer cdjs. all other factors can be outdone by others, easily (think dennon cdjs).


Posted by Jarvmeister on Feb-09-2008 20:25:

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
technics 1200s - 1.5kg/cm

Numark TT500 - 4.5kg/cm
Stanton T120 - 4.5kg/cm
Stanton STR8150 - 4.5kg/cm

that is 3 times as much. how much more do you need to classify it as very low?


Well, you've conveniently left out the decks at the LOW end of the torque range, the ones most relevant to this conversation. You know as well as I do, or at least you should do, that there are a lot of decks out there that have a startup torque of less than 1kg/cm.

For example many of the Citronic range are rated less than 1kg.

I'd say it was more accurate to say that the torque level was mid range.


Posted by aLviNx80 on Feb-10-2008 03:18:

Technics might have less torque than those mentioned, but can u really say that it isn't enough? I've never heard of anyone ever complaining or having problems with them, because of it.

IMO, the other brands can not be said that they are better just because they have more torque, because it is unnecessary.

I would choose the techs over them anyday. Not saying that the other brands are not as good. Apart from their preformances, I just like the way the Techs looks and feels, as well as the reputation it held, which promises reliability. Just my preference tho.


Posted by Jarvmeister on Feb-10-2008 13:24:

quote:
Originally posted by aLviNx80
Technics might have less torque than those mentioned, but can u really say that it isn't enough? I've never heard of anyone ever complaining or having problems with them, because of it.


You've hit the nail on there head there. These ridiculously torquey decks are just a gimmick, the torue is simply not needed, and doesn't help in the slightest.

It's the only card they can pull against the 1200.



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