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Hi everyone,
I was looking for some adivce, im buying a mac pro and logic studio soon and i was wondering what soundcard to get a PCI express, ExpressCard/34, USB or FireWire if so what make, i will spend up to �300, i will also connect a virus ti to the mac. I will be using 30 to 50 insrument channels depends on the production. ive got a m audio 2496 on the pc at the mo but it overloads when i use 2 many channels.
Any advice will be taken on board
BulknSkull

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Originally posted by BulknSkull Hi everyone, I was looking for some adivce, im buying a mac pro and logic studio soon and i was wondering what soundcard to get a PCI express, ExpressCard/34, USB or FireWire if so what make, i will spend up to �300, i will also connect a virus ti to the mac. I will be using 30 to 50 insrument channels depends on the production. ive got a m audio 2496 on the pc at the mo but it overloads when i use 2 many channels. Any advice will be taken on board BulknSkull

Echo Audiofire4

if you don't need the preamps or i/o on the audiofire4, you could try an audiofire2 maybe. but yeah, many people on this forum own audiofires now haha, seem to be a good product (i've got one too).

it won't help with the overloading though. audiophiles have pretty good drivers already, so i wouldn't expect you could get much lower latencies on an audiofire.

do you understand how the buffer length to cpu load synergy works? higher buffer will allow less cpu load, but more latency. a lower buffer length will require more cpu load, but less latency. this is because the computer has to work more or less hard to prepare the audio in time. when the audio is not processed quick enough, you get an overload. however, it only works this way to a point. at some stage your cpu will be falling behind regardless of the buffer length.

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Originally posted by BulknSkull Hi everyone, I was looking for some adivce, im buying a mac pro and logic studio soon and i was wondering what soundcard to get a PCI express, ExpressCard/34, USB or FireWire if so what make, i will spend up to �300, i will also connect a virus ti to the mac. I will be using 30 to 50 insrument channels depends on the production. ive got a m audio 2496 on the pc at the mo but it overloads when i use 2 many channels. Any advice will be taken on board BulknSkull

Today, I should be getting an Echo Audiofire 4 from UPS or better said, UBS. Although, I am more of an intermediate in comparison to some of the other guys on this forum, I can let you know how the Audiofire 4 compares to just using an integrated soundcard on one's PC. Since you are switching to a Mac now, I doubt that I can help you there.

BTW, did you get your name, "BulknSkull" from the show, Power Rangers back in the early 90s? If so, you are my hero. Man, I keep getting struck by nostalgia today.

apogee duet

i think we soon should get sponsored some money of echo as we promote it almost each day.

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Originally posted by palm i think we soon should get sponsored some money of echo as we promote it almost each day.

Yeah. AKG too.

I agree with the Echo AudioFire recommendations. It's a great interface.

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BTW, did you get your name, "BulknSkull" from the show, Power Rangers back in the early 90s? If so, you are my hero. Man, I keep getting struck by nostalgia today. [/QUOTE]

lol, no got the name from superted its a cartoon out in the 80's i think with texas pete and his 2 side kicks Bulk and Skull, Skull was made of bones. power rangers were called Skull and Bulk i think.

audio interface

thanks for the advice but wots the difference between apogee duet and Echo Audiofire 4?

thanks

BulknSkull

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Originally posted by BulknSkull thanks for the advice but wots the difference between apogee duet and Echo Audiofire 4? thanks BulknSkull

why dont you go look at the specifications and learn...

just wondering i connect the virus ti using the usb lead do any of the audio interfaces you hav told me have a usb connection or will i still have to connect to the computer. do any of you have the virus ti if so how do you connect it to your computer.

Thanks

BulknSkull

Thanks for the recomendations much appreciated.

BulknSkull

What is it that makes you rate echo gear so much!!?

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Originally posted by ENZ83 What is it that makes you rate echo gear so much!!?

most of us own them lol

you have a lot of choice with the audiofire line, as the extend from 2 in/out right up to the audiofire 12. it's not like we all own the same card. echo have a good reputation for drivers and the adc/dac is decent for the price. presonus and edirol used to be the go-to brands for budget audio interfaces, since 2005, but the audiofire2/4 were only released last year and are a bit more up to date.

Ok thanks for the reply i might get an echo 4

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Originally posted by echosystm most of us own them lol you have a lot of choice with the audiofire line, as the extend from 2 in/out right up to the audiofire 12. it's not like we all own the same card. echo have a good reputation for drivers and the adc/dac is decent for the price. presonus and edirol used to be the go-to brands for budget audio interfaces, since 2005, but the audiofire2/4 were only released last year and are a bit more up to date.

I think echosystem has a lot to do with why they are so popular amongst TA's - I bet he has shares in the company!!!

.....but that doesn't detract from the fact they are really bloody good cards and I think M-audio is being left behind by the quality and range now being offered by echo.

I must admit I think I will be upgrading to the audiofire2/4 soon.

On another note, I would like to have the option of running pro tools - what are the current opinions on the mbox range (micro to pro)?

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Originally posted by BulknSkull lol, no got the name from superted its a cartoon out in the 80's i think with texas pete and his 2 side kicks Bulk and Skull, Skull was made of bones....

Fucking classic!! Now I'm getting all nostalgic.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN I think echosystem has a lot to do with why they are so popular amongst TA's - I bet he has shares in the company!!!

lol

yeah, i did my fair share of echo fanboyism. that said, a shit load of people on this forum DO own them! over the last year i think they have become the most popular card here haha.

drivers for echo is updated! v4.6 is out dare! nutzen!

The Echo Audiofire is a feisty little beast. I really like the design and was surprised by how small it was! I plan to DJ with it in the future, but the darn AC adapter is so easy to pull out. You guys have any recommendations because I would really hate to ducktape the little guy to keep the plug in.

hmm i thought u didnt need adaptor on audiofire 2 and 4 ??? powered by firewire? read manual page 6 http://www.echoaudio.com/Downloads/Manuals/AudioFire%20Windows%20Manual%20v2.0.pdf
if u have a 6pin firewire on your PC u dont need powersupply

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Originally posted by palm hmm i thought u didnt need adaptor on audiofire 2 and 4 ??? powered by firewire? read manual page 6 http://www.echoaudio.com/Downloads/...nual%20v2.0.pdf if u have a 6pin firewire on your PC u dont need powersupply

Yeah, I realize that. Unfortunately, I am working off of a laptop that doesn't have a firewire port. I am using a cardbus adapter to attach the Audiofire 4 with 6-pin firewire except it cannot power the device. It requires an adaptor sold separately, and since I have the adapter for the Audiofire, I figure there is no point for me to buy another one.

At this point, anyone have any decent recommendations? The only other solution that comes to mind is super glue--just kidding...

Get an Echo Audiofire4

its what he have moron

Just ordered the audiofire12. Can't wait to have it here. Haven't gotten a confirmed arrival date but did get a damn good price .

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